Which version ? CT vs CT 4S

[mikezhang31]

When I got a base trim loaner while my 4S was getting serviced (drove my daily commute for 3 days), initial feeling was that the 4 would suffice for normal driving. However after a while I realized between 40 to 80 mph the 4S is a lot faster than the 4. Merging on the highway and passing is more effortless whereas in the 4 I had to floor it.

Now whether the power is worth it: if you know you will never think about a 4S while you own the base trim then you don’t need it. I know I’m the type of person that goes “what if” or “would be nice to have more”, I will regret spending already a lot of money and not getting exactly what I want, so I went and got the 4S despite test driving the 4

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[Irish Guy]

Thanks for your detailed post.

I think you have a point on the whole safety thing. Having the crutch makes me less focussed.
I do tend to relax in stop & go and fully rely on the crutch.

I checked the spec on both cars and they both have "Warn- and Brake Assist". This definitely saved my ass more than it should have...

I do not share your view on automated technologies though. I think today you can have your cake and eat it too, i.e. you can drive a Porsche like an old 911 when you feel like it and still have a great daily in shitty traffic when needed.
I love to drive and value the experience but sometimes, I'm tired and the journey's bad. In those times, I'm happy my car helps me along the way.

Ideally, I'd have a Taycan for daily use and a GT3 for when I want to enjoy the drive. I'm not there yet though But I'll work my way to get there

Ha-ha, I can’t argue with you there - yours is a reasonable view re: automated tech. It’s just not for me.

I should commend you on your vision for your garage, though - that’s my setup! 2022 GT3, manual, for exciting weekend drives (seriously, the way the car goes from fast to suddenly ferocious as you close in on 9,000 rpm, with the shift lights flashing and then having to take one hand off the wheel to shift - it’s exciting (and just the right amount of frightening) in a way that no EV ever will be. You should get one!) I’ve got the Taycan GTS as the perfect daily in traffic-ridden DC. And the Panamera GTS for those long drives up and down the coast with family. The V8 still has its own charms.

Let us know which Taycan you go for! I genuinely think you should forego some creature comforts in favour of more power.

 

[Irish Guy]

Except it seems it does not apply as easily to the Taycan. Range seems to become an issue when power increases. Even though Porsche advertises a similar range fort the CT and the CT 4S, it seems it's not the case in real life....

I don’t think that power difference itself affects range. It’s wheel selection, ambient temperature, and - above all - driving style. The only way power relates to reduced driving range is weight (I believe the C4 and C4S have the same motors, though, so no difference there - the GTS and Turbo share larger motors).

 

[Lausch]

Ha-ha, I can’t argue with you there - yours is a reasonable view re: automated tech. It’s just not for me.

I should commend you on your vision for your garage, though - that’s my setup! 2022 GT3, manual, for exciting weekend drives (seriously, the way the car goes from fast to suddenly ferocious as you close in on 9,000 rpm, with the shift lights flashing and then having to take one hand off the wheel to shift - it’s exciting (and just the right amount of frightening) in a way that no EV ever will be. You should get one!) I’ve got the Taycan GTS as the perfect daily in traffic-ridden DC. And the Panamera GTS for those long drives up and down the coast with family. The V8 still has its own charms.

Let us know which Taycan you go for! I genuinely think you should forego some creature comforts in favour of more power.

Your garage sir, will be my target for the coming years

Let's start with that Taycan

 

[Irish Guy]

That isn’t what I meant by safety feature but I do understand that some like ACC and some don’t.

Out of curiosity, what safety feature does ACC offer that the standard Warn and Brake Assist does not?

 

[W1NGE]

Out of curiosity, what safety feature does ACC offer that the standard Warn and Brake Assist does not?

WBA is the minimum anti collision set-up.

Full set of assistance options: many come with an ACC setup - read the configuration / owners manual to learn more.

 

[Irish Guy]

WBA is the minimum anti collision set-up.

Full set of assistance options: many come with an ACC setup - read the configuration / owners manual to learn more.

Thanks! I have LCA on my non-ACC Taycan, and think it’s a valuable safety feature. I don’t know how valuable rear cross traffic alert, intersection assist, etc. are. I’m sure that Porsche has implemented them well. I may be biased against those features because my old Mazda6 had them, and they drove me nuts with constant beeping.

 

[W1NGE]

Thanks! I have LCA on my non-ACC Taycan, and think it’s a valuable safety feature. I don’t know how valuable rear cross traffic alert, intersection assist, etc. are. I’m sure that Porsche has implemented them well. I may be biased against those features because my old Mazda6 had them, and they drove me nuts with constant beeping.

Ha ha - that's why you can switch them off.

LCA is a winner - should be standard - and address the blind spots in the Taycan. First time I've ever had such a feature but will always tick that box.

All of the above are (of course) standard on a Volvo!

 

[Irish Guy]

Ha ha - that's why you can switch them off.

LCA is a winner - should be standard - and address the blind spots in the Taycan. First time I've ever had such a feature but will always tick that box.

All of the above are (of course) standard on a Volvo!

Naturally, lol - I picked up a RAV4 LE (cheapest version) for beach duty in the summer. It comes standard with adaptive cruise control, etc., despite costing ~ 1/6 of my Taycan, ha-ha. Porsche really has its business economics figured out…

 

[FredC057]

There is no logical reason why a 4S would have less range than a 4 driven the same way. If the extra power is used a lot by a heavy footed driver, maybe, but driven the same absolutely no reason to doubt Porsche’s data.

OTOH as I wrote earlier both the roof rails and electric charge port will definitely hurt range, I just don’t know by how much.

We checked the consumption data for the same trip driven in convoy with colleagues.
I know that Porsche is saying that it should be the same but it’s not the case.
I thought of the roof bars but on the range test of the Macan EV, the Porsche engineer is saying that it has nearly no impact in real life compared to all the other variables(wind, temperature,speed…)
Maybe the CT4 of my colleague goes less often on longer trips, DC fast charge less often… lots of other variables can come to play and we don’t have a dongle to check the battery health.

 

[Irish Guy]

We checked the consumption data for the same trip driven in convoy with colleagues.
I know that Porsche is saying that it should be the same but it’s not the case.
I thought of the roof bars but on the range test of the Macan EV, the Porsche engineer is saying that it has nearly no impact in real life compared to all the other variables(wind, temperature,speed…)
Maybe the CT4 of my colleague goes less often on longer trips, DC fast charge less often… lots of other variables can come to play and we don’t have a dongle to check the battery health.

Did the cars have the same wheels and tires? (These can make a substantial difference.) Any reason to think that one car was blasting AC, while the other was not? If you were truly comparing like with like, then it's counterintuitive that you'd encounter such a stark difference in efficiency. Interesting

 

[W1NGE]

Did the cars have the same wheels and tires? (These can make a substantial difference.) Any reason to think that one car was blasting AC, while the other was not? If you were truly comparing like with like, then it's counterintuitive that you'd encounter such a stark difference in efficiency. Interesting

Don't overthink this. Just drive the car, charge when you need to and overall ENJOY!

 

[Lausch]

I drive a CT4 and it’s fast. Funny enough I somehow escaped fines so far.

if fast is your thing get the 4S but believe me the 4 is enough. I have the ACC and Pano roof and both are great.
Pano for the kid and ACC for me (I actually had innodrive)

My wife and kids would love the Pano roof... I'm already treating myself a ton by actually going for a Taycan in the first place, so going 4S instead of base CT would probably be adding insult to injury

 

[Lausch]

Ok, big news: I just realized the base CT has the privacy screen on the rear windows whereas the 4S doesn't have it.

And I just really don't like the look with the privacy screen. This might actually tip the scale in favor of the 4S.

How vain...

 

[f1eng]

Ok, big news: I just realized the base CT has the privacy screen on the rear windows whereas the 4S doesn't have it.

And I just really don't like the look with the privacy screen. This might actually tip the scale in favor of the 4S.

How vain...

My opinion too, the privacy glass ruins the look of a car.

I have nothing on my back seat which is private and I don't deal drugs or carry a bloke with a sub-machine gun in the back so I don't need it.
I also prefer light from side windows to that from a skylight...

Almost all Taycans in the used market I looked at had both a glass roof and dark back windows, ruling them all out for me but it is obviously either a rare preference or a fashion thing since the vast majority are like that.

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