What’s going on with taycan prices?

[ShiftyWolf]

Porsche will have to do something to help keep used prices up. We can't have the unwashed masses trading in their 15 year old Corollas for 4 year old Taycan Turbos! ?

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[Longy_UK]

People in here saying a Taycan is expensive to run are part of the problem. You’ve clearly never had a performance car and are only in a Taycan for a tax break… the Taycan is cheap to run - FACT!

My Taycan has:

- cheaper fuel (£400 per month)
- no tax (£570 per year)
- cheaper insurance (£500 per year)
- servicing (£1200 cheaper per 2 years)
- tyres (£200 a set cheaper) fact.

All facts compared to my comparable performance RS6…

Oh and don’t get me started on how much a 3 year old 40k miles rs6 is down from the £130k price tag….

If you wanted to pay Nissan leaf running costs for a £100k + Porsche you bought the wrong car….

 

[whitex]

A bit mad but seeing these prices is tempting me to an ST GTS despite only having had my CT4 5 months and it also suffering depreciation. I love the car as well.

But I can’t stop looking. Aaagh.

I'd say quote an upgrade and decide then. It's possible that the price you paid for the CT4 plus the upgrade might still be cheaper than if you bought the ST GTS from the start. Best time to upgrade in price is always when prices are down, since even though the trade-in will be depressed, so will the car you're upgrading to. Extreme example, imagine you want to upgrade from $100K car to $200K car. If suddenly all cars drop 50%, you trade in for $50K and buy for $100K, so your total cost ends up being $150K for the $200K car.

 

[Murph7355]

The government could also help support if they provided the same tax relief as purchasing new. Would also be better for the environment

Governments (taxpayers) should not be subsidising the cost of luxury cars. Double so ones not made here.

I can see the "need" for EV subsidy (originally anyway) but it needed more sense and finesse.

The ZEV mandate was a better way to achieve the aim - make the manufacturers come up with the ways to achieve targets. And potentially subsidise the lower end/cars manufactured here.

 

[Murph7355]

People in here saying a Taycan is expensive to run are part of the problem. You’ve clearly never had a performance car and are only in a Taycan for a tax break… the Taycan is cheap to run - FACT!

My Taycan has:

- cheaper fuel (£400 per month)
- no tax (£570 per year)
- cheaper insurance (£500 per year)
- servicing (£1200 cheaper per 2 years)
- tyres (£200 a set cheaper) fact.

All facts compared to my comparable performance RS6…

Oh and don’t get me started on how much a 3 year old 40k miles rs6 is down from the £130k price tag….

If you wanted to pay Nissan leaf running costs for a £100k + Porsche you bought the wrong car….

Yes and no.

They shouldn't be charging something for nothing just because they feel customers are used to being humped. It's that way of thinking that irritates me about public charging prices.

I remember Audi wanting to charge me £150 MORE for oil than I could provide the exact same product purchased retail. I told them I would bring my own in future. Same on tyres, wiper blades and washer fluid. Never, ever buy these from dealers without first checking the real cost.

 

[Longy_UK]

That’s the car trade mate…

Last time I had my RS6 serviced I had a massive argument over the price. They charge £780 for an oil change and inspection. Prior to the RS6 I had a 2.0l petrol A6 (same year) and the oil change and inspection was £330.

I spoke to the service manager and asked for a breakdown of where the extra £450 came from and the only thing he could say was ‘a bit more oil’ in the end they discounted the service £150 and I put it down to RS tax…

The point is that Porsche servicing is not cheap - it never has been - and people are buying Porsches that aren’t used to premium brand prices…..

 

[senwar]

I'd say quote an upgrade and decide then. It's possible that the price you paid for the CT4 plus the upgrade might still be cheaper than if you bought the ST GTS from the start. Best time to upgrade in price is always when prices are down, since even though the trade-in will be depressed, so will the car you're upgrading to. Extreme example, imagine you want to upgrade from $100K car to $200K car. If suddenly all cars drop 50%, you trade in for $50K and buy for $100K, so your total cost ends up being $150K for the $200K car.

Oh christ I'd not even thought of it that way!!! But that's true yes.

I purposely chose a CT4 over a CT4S so I could add more options (actually spec'd a 4S with less options and was cheaper) and view was why would I need more power. Now I want more power and the full race-tex interior.

Must be honest, I love my current one, its brilliant. May give it a go and see though

 

[GMarcs66]

People in here saying a Taycan is expensive to run are part of the problem. You’ve clearly never had a performance car and are only in a Taycan for a tax break… the Taycan is cheap to run - FACT!

My Taycan has:

- cheaper fuel (£400 per month)
- no tax (£570 per year)
- cheaper insurance (£500 per year)
- servicing (£1200 cheaper per 2 years)
- tyres (£200 a set cheaper) fact.

All facts compared to my comparable performance RS6…

Oh and don’t get me started on how much a 3 year old 40k miles rs6 is down from the £130k price tag….

If you wanted to pay Nissan leaf running costs for a £100k + Porsche you bought the wrong car….

I totally agree with all the points you made ,my concern is they are going to be like a phone ,manufacturer's will do what apple do every 2-3 years turn batteries up or down. I’ve a 3year 3 month 38k 4s fully loaded I’m barely getting 190 miles full. . I only charge 85% so even less daily usable. These cars are not going to be worth anything in 5-6 years. Great cars but when governments take tax breaks away whos going to buy?

 

[Longy_UK]

Agreed… but surely you didn’t buy the car cash?

Lease it - hand it back.
PCP it - hand it back.

In these cases you accept what you’ll pay at the start and depreciation is not a concern.

 

[Crazymind]

What’s the difference between servicing Nissan leaf and Taycan?

 

[kempez]

What’s the difference between servicing Nissan leaf and Taycan?

it’s a Porsche technician doing the servicing ???

 

[GMarcs66]

Agreed… but surely you didn’t buy the car cash?

Lease it - hand it back.
PCP it - hand it back.

In these cases you accept what you’ll pay at the start and depreciation is not a concern.

Hindsight is a great thing ?
No I’ve always bought , normally works out but looks like I’ll have to go that way if I stick with electric. I think the lease /pcp deals will be going up if the depreciation carry’s on which I think it will. I have friends that have just renewed leases at under 10% finance with Porsche and big discounts of the cars.
I think the range is going to be the canary in coal mine unless they improve which they probably will. Or peoples perceptions change.

 

[MAPC]

Hindsight is a great thing ?
No I’ve always bought , normally works out but looks like I’ll have to go that way if I stick with electric. I think the lease /pcp deals will be going up if the depreciation carry’s on which I think it will. I have friends that have just renewed leases at under 10% finance with Porsche and big discounts of the cars.
I think the range is going to be the canary in coal mine unless they improve which they probably will. Or peoples perceptions change.

Re range---and I am sure there are LENGTHY threads on this elsewhere, but since you bring it up:
You are correct about what needs to change--both actual range and owner perception.

Range will improve (as it has in the past 10 or so years) as battery technology improves.
Perception is the real issue. My story:

When I bought my first 'daily driver' EV (I had a Tesla Roadster prior to that) in 2013, I was concerned. The car (early Tesla Model S) was available with a 45, 60 or 85 kW battery. Each step up was $10K. Since this was already the most expensive vehicle I had ever purchased, I thought long and hard about it. Then I read an article that said (don't quote me on the exact numbers, but it is ROM accurate) that the average person drives over 100 miles less than 10% of the time. Over 200 less than 5%. I took the middle of the road path and ordered the 60.

In the three years and 36K miles that I put on the Tesla, I never had a range issue, and probably charged away from home fewer than 2-3 times a year (a couple at Superchargers just to check it out, and a couple of times at hotels on weekend trips to Napa or Carmel).

In my Taycan now, I used an EA charger once (just to try it out), have charged at the dealer (why not, I am there anyway) and the rest at home.

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