VW Group EVs to Get Tesla Supercharger Access September 9, 2025

[daveo4EV]

Done

nicely done - but still maybe a schooss optimistic - but I won't quibble…

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[slothinker]

Done

Dave ... always the optimist!

 

[whitex]

nicely done - but still maybe a schooss optimistic - but I won't quibble…

I was going to suggest "Some VW group EVs to maybe get Tesla Supercharger access sometime this decade", but close enough.

 

[whitex]

Dave ... always the optimistrealist!

There, I fixed it for you.

 

[Flying ace]

Done

Best add the emoticon: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Flying ace]

If y'all wanted to test your fancy Lectron NACS adapters, just head over to Mercedes Benz HPC, Ionna or BP Pulse for some 800v 300amp full send, bc them sorry Tesla v3's ain't touching these numbers

 

[daveo4EV]

If y'all wanted to test your fancy Lectron NACS adapters, just head over to Mercedes Benz HPC, Ionna or BP Pulse for some 800v 300amp full send, bc them sorry Tesla v3's ain't touching these numbers

where in hte bay area are these chargers?

and V4 Superchargers are still an open question as to their max power…

 

[Flying ace]

where in hte bay area are these chargers?

and V4 Superchargers are still an open question as to their max power…

https://www.plugshare.com/location/916664

 

[hifi239]

Best add the emoticon: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Okay I tried it, but it didn't look right with the title font.

 

[Sly_North]

Is there any reason why in Europe, everyone got access to the Superchargers while in the US it's mostly still not there? Did the EU forced Tesla to open the SC? Or is the US network older and needs update (ex, to v3 SC) ?

 

[RBGtaycan]

Is there any reason why in Europe, everyone got access to the Superchargers while in the US it's mostly still not there? Did the EU forced Tesla to open the SC? Or is the US network older and needs update (ex, to v3 SC) ?

There were effectively 2 standards in the US (CCS and NACS (Tesla))...Government did not force a winner but the market "created" a winner (because NACS was so dominant)..plus Government monies were being doled out for chargers only if they were available to everybody..so Tesla(NACS) started opening up their system and car manufacturers made voluntary (but smart) decisions to adopt NACS.

The "adoption of NACS" process is slow, gradual and frustrating (Tesla and the car companies negotiate the timing individually and it definitely has not been all at once!)

Most NACS chargers are Tesla chargers (slowly changing because non-Tesla providers are adopting the NACS standard)

 

[whitex]

Is there any reason why in Europe, everyone got access to the Superchargers while in the US it's mostly still not there? Did the EU forced Tesla to open the SC? Or is the US network older and needs update (ex, to v3 SC) ?

Short answer, physically different connectors, and until couple of years ago, different communications standard.

 

[Flying ace]

Okay I tried it, but it didn't look right with the title font.

try this:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Flying ace]

There were effectively 2 standards in the US (CCS and NACS (Tesla))...Government did not force a winner but the market "created" a winner (because NACS was so dominant)..plus Government monies were being doled out for chargers only if they were available to everybody..so Tesla(NACS) started opening up their system and car manufacturers made voluntary (but smart) decisions to adopt NACS.

The "adoption of NACS" process is slow, gradual and frustrating (Tesla and the car companies negotiate the timing individually and it definitely has not been all at once!)

Most NACS chargers are Tesla chargers (slowly changing because non-Tesla providers are adopting the NACS standard)

you'd think that NEVI funding (given out to Tesla when stations become available to all) and getting a head start on the impending CPO war is enough of incentive for Tesla to open up to all vehicles. I'm not certain whey they did not, other than knowing that opening up would overcrowd popular charging sites and decrease the charging experience for Tesla owners.

But IMO, not opening up sooner is to their detriment. Instead of capturing competitor vehicles/customer earlier with positive experiences, I have hypothesized that by end of the year with Ionna, BP, MB HPC, Pilot J, Walmart Energy and other CPO rapidly turning on, and the next gen EVs being 800v cars, Tesla soon will have the most outdated hardware, coupled with a worsening product experience. This is also not considering Elon's toxic public opinion (of which political lean of typical EV drivers is more materially skewed) already have having eroded the brand and a prospective customer's likelihood of using Tesla. Timing (let's be honest it's not just timing but poor decision management, bc timing indicates "random luck",) couldn't have been worse for Tesla today.


Related, the upcoming CPO war will be fun to watch things shake out. CPOs will compete on energy pricing, site availability, reliability and experience. Ionna and Walmart (and EA) may end up winning, The CPO landscape will look much like Europes' with many CPOs using Alpitronic for 300+ speeds, and Chargepoint and other hardware for 50kw speeds.

 

[voksic]

Is there any reason why in Europe, everyone got access to the Superchargers while in the US it's mostly still not there? Did the EU forced Tesla to open the SC? Or is the US network older and needs update (ex, to v3 SC) ?

EU forced everybody to obey by the same rules. Connector is standard (CCS2) for all cars, so initial limitation on Tesla's network was inflicted by Tesla itself (as it is in US). In reality, Tesla's network is not up to the standard of other networks. They are lagging behind; slower, power sharing, poor availability, requires its own app... While with Porsche Charging I can go to any of the few dozen providers and always use the same rfid key to authenticate. I have only one app to charge everywhere in Europe - My Porsche.

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