New Cayenne EV impact on Taycan Values

[dans]

The new Cayenne Turbo released yesterday for £130k seems incredible value vs the Taycan Turbo S.

Surely the Cayenne will create further drops in value to the Taycan.

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[pteron]

They are completely different cars, a Taycan is a low slung sports car and a Cayenne is a huge ugly SUV!

 

[Graluy]

Le nouveau Cayenne Turbo, sorti hier à 130 000 £, semble offrir un rapport qualité-prix incroyable par rapport au Taycan Turbo S.

Le Cayenne va certainement entraîner une nouvelle baisse de la valeur du Taycan.
[/CITATION]

Je suis d'accord avec vous. I have studied un Taycan GTS neuf à 183 000 €. Hier, j'ai refait la même recherche et je constate qu'un Cayenne Turbo est bien plus avantageux pour le même prix, car de nombreuses options du Taycan sont incluses dans le prix de base du Cayenne.

On y trouve même une batterie de 113 kWh, une technologie de refroidissement bien plus avancée, de meilleurs systèmes ADAS… pour un véhicule qui semble plus efficient qu’une Taycan Turbo S.

Si on fait un calcul simple, on arrive à 69 €/kg pour un Cayenne Turbo contre 79 €/kg pour une Taycan GTS avec une technologie plus ancienne ! Oups, il semblerait que la Taycan soit plus de 20 % trop chère à mon goût.

Je me demande sérieusement si je vais échanger ma GTS 2023 contre une GTS 2026.

Have a nice day

 

[dans]

Compared to the Cross Turismo it may not be two worlds apart. The changes in battery tech including inductive charging and modules are a step in the right direction. I just don’t know why you would choose to buy a Taycan over the Cayenne now. The performance figures alone are enough to make you consider it.

 

[chun]

Taycan's have any value left? News to me

 

[chun]

Compared to the Cross Turismo it may not be two worlds apart. The changes in battery tech including inductive charging and modules are a step in the right direction. I just don’t know why you would choose to buy a Taycan over the Cayenne now. The performance figures alone are enough to make you consider it.

Handling, it definitely handles better than an audi platform and a SUV body, despite what Macan EVs might claim.

But most people buying a 4 door car don't give a rats ass about handling

Makes you wonder what the fk is so expensive in the taycan, that a taycan turbo/s is 250k; with smaller battery, weaker older motors, weaker inveters, outdated computers, software from the antiquity times, shit interior space... and still a Cayenne turbo with better everything technology wise, is cheaper.

I doubt the taycan turbo s costs 250k to make and a cayenne turbo costs 160k. Likely they both cost closer to 120k

I suspect porsache put a +100k on taycans to cover platform development costs, and while using the audi platform for the cayenne, they simply didn't have to put a +100k. Otherwise it makes no sense how they improved tech in 1-2 years quite a bit (even compared to taycan GT), while reducing the cost by 100k+ apparently.

 

[dans]

The Taycan price increase last time was to prop up the value of Taycans. I believe Porsche are storing Taycans and drip feeding into the market to protect their value. You can see this by their vin numbers, new cars for sale were built a long time ago.

 

[Jasper4S]

Not sure what you are asking OP. Panamera and Cayenne already existed next to each other for years. I don't think one made the depreciation of the other better or worse. Just (very) different vehicles from the same brand for more or less the same high price.

To put in perspective, I'll give an example of 'normal' priced cars. I don't think the Opel/Vauxhall Corsa and the almost same priced Opel/Vauxhall Mokka have any impact on each other. Just two different - same priced - vehicles from the same company that both happen to be ICE or EV.

 

[69Mach390]

Compared to the Cross Turismo it may not be two worlds apart. The changes in battery tech including inductive charging and modules are a step in the right direction. I just don’t know why you would choose to buy a Taycan over the Cayenne now. The performance figures alone are enough to make you consider it.

By this logic, the 911 would have disappeared long ago because of the Panamera and Macan and Cayenne.

They are very different vehicles and serve very different purposes.

If you want a fast EV Porsche that’s cheaper and more practical, the Macan already exists.

I also don’t think inductive charging is going to be a big selling point, but could be wrong. If it’s an optional feature, I don’t think it’ll be a cheap option.

 

[alphonso]

Current base pricing for the entry level Taycan is £88k - not a significant premium to the new Cayenne EV.

If anything, the new Cayenne establishes EV tech as mainstream in the Porsche lineup which should stabilise depreciation to more normal levels - also helped, as someone mentioned, by the lower production levels of the gen II Taycan. Buy a pre-April '25 production model and you have discounted road tax forever (no luxury car premium).

The cars are awesome, I'll never go back to ICE - it'll just take a while for the Clarkson disciples to catch on.

 

[tigerbalm]

Makes you wonder what the fk is so expensive in the taycan

Recouping some of the Porsche platform development costs vs using a VW/Audi group platform ?

 

[tigerbalm]

The Taycan price increase last time was to prop up the value of Taycans. I believe Porsche are storing Taycans and drip feeding into the market to protect their value. You can see this by their vin numbers, new cars for sale were built a long time ago.

I drove a two month old loaner (registered two months ago as a new car) recently that was built over a year ago!

 

[Sace]

Probably depends on the market. Around here a LOT of Taycans were sold to a segment that actually would prefer a SUV but because of our taxes a ICE Cayenne were out of reach compared to a Taycan. That lead to a flood of Taycans. The Macan stopped that and I think the Cayenne will reduce the sales of Taycan even furhter.

That might be a good thing for the used values.

I just don’t know why you would choose to buy a Taycan over the Cayenne now. The performance figures alone are enough to make you consider it.

Because you don't want a SUV? I would never buy a Cayenne.

 

[69Mach390]

I drove a two month old loaner (registered two months ago as a new car) recently that was built over a year ago!

Could have sat on a lot.

My car (2024) has a production date almost exactly 2 months before it was registered.

This isn’t De Beers where some company is controlling supply to create scarcity. Porsche wants to sell cars as quickly as possible. Storing them costs money.

 

[chun]

This isn’t De Beers where some company is controlling supply to create scarcity. Porsche wants to sell cars as quickly as possible. Storing them costs money.

That's just not true.
Porsche plays difficult with allocation on certain 911s, and did so with taycans during covid, and are still doing with Macan EVs - and they for sure will pull the same shit with the Cayennes, when they release next June

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