What Happens To Us After 8 Years? (When battery warranty expires)

[Fish Fingers]

The positive news on all this.....
Recent survey showing EV batteries across brands are holding up really well in general.

I would imagine that newer cars (with more modern battery technology) will provide very good results.
Especially when the battery has been sympathetically treated over the years;

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/electric-vehicles-news/ev-batteries-last-longer-than-expected/

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[Fish Fingers]

I'll just add one more thing (whilst looking at older EV battery efficiency).
Everyone forgets about ICE degradation.

This is an AI comparison for a typical 10 year old / 100k miles car.

Similar loss of 'efficiency' but EV performance is maintained, whilst ICE looses performance.

 

[parkslopedope]

Just look at the prices of Teslas that are over 8 years old……. Early model S Teslas are under $10k used.

If your Taycan battery completely dies when it’s a decade old…… that car is more likely headed to the junkyard to be sold for parts.

It’s a good thing that complete battery failure isn’t that common.

Apples and oranges, the only similarity is how they are powered.

Also old model S’ are now 15-16 years old not under 10 years old.
Tesla build quality, design (the model S looks largely the same today as it did at the beginning minus the front bubble), support network , use case and frankly brand perception are not on the same level as Porsche, especially not back in 2011 (re: build quality)

So yes, we know these cars depreciate faster than non EVs but using old teslas as a point of reference is not a reliable way to gauge the future market imo.

 

[Wakesurfer]

Just look at the prices of Teslas that are over 8 years old……. Early model S Teslas are under $10k used.

If your Taycan battery completely dies when it’s a decade old…… that car is more likely headed to the junkyard to be sold for parts.

It’s a good thing that complete battery failure isn’t that common.

My feeling exactly. Assume that you paid $100,000 for your car and it lasts for 10 years. Forgetting the time value of money the car costs $10,000 per year.........or, $833.00 per month. Not being flippant, but in my book that is a pretty low cost for driving a Porsche for a full 10 years. Anything past 10 years is a bonus. Now, yes, this is an overly simple example but it does demonstrate the point - you have purchased a hunk of depreciating metal, plastic, and maybe some leather that at some point will have a low or close to zero residual value. Drive the car with a smile on your face knowing that you and your car are pretty darn special.

 

[69Mach390]

Apples and oranges, the only similarity is how they are powered.

Also old model S’ are now 15-16 years old not under 10 years old.
Tesla build quality, design (the model S looks largely the same today as it did at the beginning minus the front bubble), support network , use case and frankly brand perception are not on the same level as Porsche, especially not back in 2011 (re: build quality)

So yes, we know these cars depreciate faster than non EVs but using old teslas as a point of reference is not a reliable way to gauge the future market imo.

The first model S came out in 2013, but still, that’s just one example.

Old Nissan Leaf’s are cheaper than a nice Bicycle. Chevy Bolts the same.

Of course there aren’t any old Porsche EVs….. yet. But so far EVERY old EV has the same thing in common- absolutely horrible resale. Sure you can argue it’s “not Porsche quality,” but you can also argue it’s not “Porsche repair prices” either.

How much would you pay for a used 2020 Porsche Taycan in the year 2032?

Not much I imagine. Especially considering repair costs. I think we will be lucky to get $15-20k for our cars at that point……assuming the car is in good running order.

 

[69Mach390]

I'll just add one more thing (whilst looking at older EV battery efficiency).
Everyone forgets about ICE degradation.

This is an AI comparison for a typical 10 year old / 100k miles car.

Similar loss of 'efficiency' but EV performance is maintained, whilst ICE looses performance.

Interesting comparison.

Of course the very bottom comparison may be the most important one. A tune up on a 100k mile gas engine is pretty easy and cheap.

But they do have 1 more thing in common- they both head to the junkyard if the cost to repair ever goes above the value of the vehicle.

 

[azraeil]

https://assets-v2.porsche.com/gb/-/...Approved-Warranty-Terms-and-Conditions_092025

Does this only apply in the UK or worldwide?

 

[berenger24]

Porsche Australia they updated the extended warranty. I spoke to my dealer about it and they advised its now covered except for wear and tear which they referred to the degradation of the battery. I imagine this is going to be different around the world.

 

[PorscheTaycan]

How much would you pay for a used 2020 Porsche Taycan in the year 2032?

If you wait long enough, would the first version of the Taycans ever become "vintage" and "collectible" like some of the other early Porsches? What do people think?

 

[logic]

I am not going to address all the comments here, but I stand by the original poster. It is not unusual to use a car for longer than 10 years. The average age of a vehicle in the EU is about 18 years (30 years the more you go East). Take, for example, a retiree who bought a nice car, doesn't drive it many miles, and wants to keep the car longer, perhaps even forever. It would not make sense to buy a new Taycan every few years for the number of miles they drive. If the battery didn't wear out, the car would probably still be in perfect condition. The biggest fear is what the original poster described, and the main reason why electric cars depreciate rapidly. What will reverse this (sentiment) is a stronger third-party supply chain. Take a look at: https://mtgbattery.com. They offer a replacement battery for the BMW i3 that actually increases this car's range (for a fraction of the price of the original battery). This could change the perception of these vehicles in the long run. … Still not there yet …

 

[Ambiorix]

for a fraction of the price of the original battery)

Where can you see the price information? Or did you ask them for a quote?

 

[logic]

Where can you see the price information? Or did you ask them for a quote?

Only approximately. MTG is a manufacturer; you will need to find a local specialist to install the battery. They offer two options: just the modules (upgrade kit) or a complete battery. I have heard prices of around 6,500 USD + shipping. Due to the higher capacity required, a Taycan battery will always be more expensive. Nevertheless, such an option would relieve the pressure of only having the extremely expensive OEM option.

The depreciation of electric cars feels like a chicken-or-egg scenario. These vehicles lose value too quickly and this consequently has a negative impact on new car sales. The irony being, at least here on the forums, many are struggling to find a decent replacement for a Taycan. That tells me a lot: people love the car, but don't want to make the same mistake twice. That is where I believe Porsche falls short: lacking a long-term vision/solution (with acceptable prices). Replacing a few broken modules is not the solution; that’s a temporary fix. It would be great if a 3rd party steps up. It will probably be more expensive than a refurb, but could worth it, having the peace of mind and potentially bigger range.

I am curious what you think of it. What is an acceptable price for a new battery pack?

 

[gamueller]

I am not going to address all the comments here, but I stand by the original poster. It is not unusual to use a car for longer than 10 years. The average age of a vehicle in the EU is about 18 years (30 years the more you go East). Take, for example, a retiree who bought a nice car, doesn't drive it many miles, and wants to keep the car longer, perhaps even forever. It would not make sense to buy a new Taycan every few years for the number of miles they drive.

My use case is exactly as described. I kept my last car (A4) 18 years. I would pay $15k for a refurbished and warrantied battery pack.
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[Ambiorix]

I am curious what you think of it. What is an acceptable price for a new battery pack?

Given the rest value of a Taycan after 10 years, I'd say anything below €10k / $11k is acceptable (including installation).

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