Tesla FSD Safety Stats Misleading

[Vercingetorix]

Mercedes level 3 is limited to <40 mph. Not much to brag about. Also there doesn't seem to be much difference between a level 2 and level 3.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2022-05/Level-of-Automation-052522-tag.pdf

base on this, Tesla's system really sounds more like level 3 vs level 2.

Mercedes has it. Tesla does not. It is SAE level 3 and Tesla does not have it.

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[AutoX]

Mercedes has it. Tesla does not. It is SAE level 3 and Tesla does not have it.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...-4-autonomy-under-a-new-texas-law-270718.html

Tesla robotaxi fleet use the same sensors and basically the same software as the cars that are sold to consumers. They have begun to drive around without a safety driver. I would say that this is more impressive than Mercedes level 3. Mercedes does not boast about it, because in the real world, being limited to 40mph is a non starter.

 

[Vercingetorix]

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...-4-autonomy-under-a-new-texas-law-270718.html

Tesla robotaxi fleet use the same sensors and basically the same software as the cars that are sold to consumers. They have begun to drive around without a safety driver. I would say that this is more impressive than Mercedes level 3. Mercedes does not boast about it, because in the real world, being limited to 40mph is a non starter.

You are confusing what I as consumer can buy, a Level 3 Mercedes, vs pie in the sky Tesla trying to show off at unlimited expense. Mercedes Level 3 can go 95kph in Germany.

 

[snstevens]

You are confusing what I as consumer can buy, a Level 3 Mercedes, vs pie in the sky Tesla trying to show off at unlimited expense. Mercedes Level 3 can go 95kph in Germany.

Didn't know that. Can you share any videos?

 

[Vercingetorix]

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Didn't know that. Can you share any videos?

I trust Mercedes. Man child is more about headlines than substance.

 

[whitex]

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I trust Mercedes. Man child is more about headlines than substance.

"No more Tetris" and your car needs your attention if you play it on your infotainment, but Tetris still there if you're playing on your phone, or a laptop, or a Nintendo Switch.

According to this video, this Level 3 is single lane keeping only (no automatic lane changes), restricted to lower speeds, no off-highway navigation (exits, turns, traffic signals), and requires take over from the driver within some short time (video never said how long) so you might have a problem if you move the seat backwards to put a laptop on your lap.

I am also curious how you prove to a police offer who pulled you over for playing games on your phone while driving, that the Level 3 was in fact enabled. Do the Police have some special tool to check Level 3 engagement history, or does the car flash some lights outside while Level 3 is engaged to indicate to everyone around?

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