Deciding on CPO Taycan Options

[McgR]

ACC for me is really important. I use it all the time. The ACC radar is also necessary for emergency braking at higher speeds. That is another reason for me to always option ACC. It has saved me twice in previous cars.

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[joefig44]

Good point. Should be standard in an EV , certainly at this price range. But in Europe it isn’t. Don’t know about Northern America. Some surprises on this forum with people who forgot to order it. Same for folding mirrors and non blinding mirrors. Also optional in Europe.

Heated steering and front heated seats are standard in Canada. Folding mirrors are not.

 

[joefig44]

ACC for me is really important. I use it all the time. The ACC radar is also necessary for emergency braking at higher speeds. That is another reason for me to always option ACC. It has saved me twice in previous cars.

Interesting about the braking. I don’t daily commute and rarely am stuck in traffic jams, but if the CPO has it great.

 

[Flying ace]

That GTS is actually a 2022 (I misquoted it as a 2024). It has RS Spyder wheels in black, which I actually prefer.
It's steering wheel is leather (not race-tex), so I assumed it was a GT sport wheel - here's a pic of it:

I was worried that 2022 4S with the performance pkg has the 21" Taycan Exclusive Design wheels.
It's kind of a strange one as while it as the performance pkg and everything, it doesn't have a GT sports wheel since it's a 4S that has just been optioned with the perf pkg.

Also, I was worried it may have too much mileage, but I guess if I'm just leasing it for 39 months with no plans to buy out at end it doesn't really matter, right?

As others have said, as long as the switch is at the 4:00 position, that's the GT wheel. This particular car has a full leather option, including the wheel. A GTS can also be optioned with leather seats only, which still retains racetex wheel and headliner (my car is like this)

Also I believe performance package includes sport chrono, which includes the GT wheel. The best way to determine whether it has sport chrono is to look for the GT wheel or the clock. (Note 2025s are the first year you could option the clock without getting Chrono)

 

[McgR]

As others have said, as long as the switch is at the 4:00 position, that's the GT wheel. This particular car has a full leather option, including the wheel. A GTS can also be optioned with leather seats only, which still retains racetex wheel and headliner (my car is like this)

Also I believe performance package includes sport chrono, which includes the GT wheel. The best way to determine whether it has sport chrono is to look for the GT wheel or the clock. (Note 2025s are the first year you could option the clock without getting Chrono)

I just had a look at the Porsche Canada site. I presume it is the one in Toronto. You should have a look at the standard equipment at the bottom of the option list for the GTS. It has much more standard options than the 4S. Like PTV + and sport chrono and the GT wheel.

The only thing I don’t see is power steering plus for the GTS. I thought is was standard too. But it used to be possible to purchase as FOD in the past

GTS also has matrix led lights. Nice to have at night. For this one they are glacier blue as is the Porsche badge in the rear. See it in person if you like it.

 

[tophamn]

Interesting about the braking. I don’t daily commute and rarely am stuck in traffic jams, but if the CPO has it great.

Not having ACC would be a deal-breaker for me - I use it all the time, both highway and in heavy traffic.

 

[tophamn]

A GTS can also be optioned with leather seats only, which still retains racetex wheel and headliner (my car is like this)

My GTS was specced (not by me) with leather; I wouldn't have bought it with RaceTex which I don't like and don't think ages well. I've also swapped the wheel for full leather as I find there's not enough grip in the RaceTex wheel.

 

[joefig44]

Not having ACC would be a deal-breaker for me - I use it all the time, both highway and in heavy traffic.

I feel like if I needed it I would just get a Tesla with FSD.
Been driving my S4 without it for 10 years so do t feel like I need that nor do I get stuck in traffic regularly.

 

[joefig44]

I just had a look at the Porsche Canada site. I presume it is the one in Toronto. You should have a look at the standard equipment at the bottom of the option list for the GTS. It has much more standard options than the 4S. Like PTV + and sport chrono and the GT wheel.

The only thing I don’t see is power steering plus for the GTS. I thought is was standard too. But it used to be possible to purchase as FOD in the past

GTS also has matrix led lights. Nice to have at night. For this one they are glacier blue as is the Porsche badge in the rear. See it in person if you like it.

Just got back from an extensive test drive of the the two vehicles I mentioned in earlier posts.

After haggling a bit on the 2024 and getting the lease cost down (but not too much haggling on the 2022 yet), the 2024 is about $200 more per month on lease than the 2022 with all the 3 performance features.
Unfortunately the GTS one I mentioned earlier is not for sale as the manager is using it as a DD

I noticed a bit of a difference in body roll on cornering between the two, but very minor and I cornered quite hard (PDCC).
I didn't notice any torque vectoring (PTV+) differences.
I noticed a significant difference of rear-axle steering benefits, but it's not like I found the one without RAS too wide in tight spots - but yes, quite a difference in maneuverability regardless.

Given that the one with these three performance features is cheaper than the one without (the one without really only has two things the cheaper one doesn't - comes with winter tires (rubber only) + is PPF on the front), and the fact that it's a lease so don't really care much about it's higher mileage, I'm thinking even though I didn't see a huge difference while driving on the performance features, it's probably the better one to go with especially if I can talk them down a tiny bit more?

Open to thoughts and reocmmendations.

 

[joefig44]

Comparison for leasing:

24 GTS with 200kms with no PDCC or RAS (but yes to PTV+ of course) plus a leather interior, HUD, 18 way seats, acoustic glass, slight preferred colour, $2800/mo CAD incl. taxes

22 4S with 36,300kms with PDCC, RAS and PTV+ and a standard interior, no HUD, 14 way seats, no acoustic glass, slightly in-preferred colour $2200/mo CAD incl. taxes

 

[tophamn]

Comparison for leasing:

24 GTS with 200kms with no PDCC or RAS (but yes to PTV+ of course) plus a leather interior, HUD, 18 way seats, acoustic glass, slight preferred colour, $2800/mo CAD incl. taxes

22 4S with 36,300kms with PDCC, RAS and PTV+ and a standard interior, no HUD, 14 way seats, no acoustic glass, slightly in-preferred colour $2200/mo CAD incl. taxes

As you're looking to lease you don't care about resale value but I guess the big question is: how valuable is CAD600/month to you? For me GTS all the way but if you don't want the extra power (who doesn't ?) then the 4S seems an obvious choice.

You need to drive a GTS before you decide, @joefig44...

 

[joefig44]

As you're looking to lease you don't care about resale value but I guess the big question is: how valuable is CAD600/month to you? For me GTS all the way but if you don't want the extra power (who doesn't ?) then the 4S seems an obvious choice.

You need to drive a GTS before you decide, @joefig44...

Ok - yeah, haven't driven a GTS and the one I have in my sights here is about 2 hrs drive away.

Is the added torque and slight HP from the GTS (and it's PTV+) to you a greater fun advantage to the additional PDCC and RAS features of the 4S?

I'd easily spend the $600/mo extra if the answer for me after I drive it is yes. The leather interior would just be icing on the cake.
If the answer is that the PDCC/RAS makes the 4S more fun to drive then it'd be a no brainer as it's also much cheaper.

 

[SergeyIndy]

Ok - yeah, haven't driven a GTS and the one I have in my sights here is about 2 hrs drive away.

Is the added torque and slight HP from the GTS (and it's PTV+) to you a greater fun advantage to the additional PDCC and RAS features of the 4S?

I'd easily spend the $600/mo extra if the answer for me after I drive it is yes. The leather interior would just be icing on the cake.
If the answer is that the PDCC/RAS makes the 4S more fun to drive then it'd be a no brainer as it's also much cheaper.

GTS is in a different category of fun as it is GTS tuned for maximum sport setup (unlike any other trim) and it has Turbo engines and inverters but detuned from Turbo levels. 4S with PDCC just added weight to already heavy 4S when I drove one on uphill ramps eliminated it for me. RAS is nice, but I do not think you will miss it on the GTS.

My vote: GTS

 

[tophamn]

Ok - yeah, haven't driven a GTS and the one I have in my sights here is about 2 hrs drive away.

Is the added torque and slight HP from the GTS (and it's PTV+) to you a greater fun advantage to the additional PDCC and RAS features of the 4S?

I'd easily spend the $600/mo extra if the answer for me after I drive it is yes. The leather interior would just be icing on the cake.
If the answer is that the PDCC/RAS makes the 4S more fun to drive then it'd be a no brainer as it's also much cheaper.

My GTS has both RAS and PDCC (and PCCB!) so I'm probably not the best person to answer that. It's worth noting, though, that the GTS is tuned as a driver's car and has the same motors front and rear as the turbo. That said the 4S doesn't have that much less power but I suspect it's a softer car to drive.

At the end of the day I'd guess you'd be happy with either - ideally you'd drive both back-to-back to make a subjective choice.

 

[mystermykee]

IMO, most of the options you listed aren't really must haves unless you've driven a Taycan with those options. My Taycan has all except for ACC and HUD. I haven't been driven a Taycan with HUD. ACC, since I never had it I never missed it UNTIL, I drove a loaner equipped with ACC. At least for me, if I were buying used ACC would not be a deal breaker. After a few days without ACC in my Taycan, I got over it.

Taycan handles well, but PDCC, RAS, and PTV+ combine for a much more dynamic and excellent handling Taycan. PDCC is more about than keeping the body flat. PDCC can almost decouple the sway bars from the suspension, which makes for a much more comfortable ride when going over uneven or angled roads that require the left and right sides of the suspension to compress/decompress opposite of each other--.like pulling into a driveway/plaza or going over a dip that only affects one side of car.

Burmeister vs BOSE - I'm so used to Burmester that it would be hard to go back to Bose.

Power Steering Plus - won't notice much during driving and at speeds, mainly for parking.

Surface coated brakes - mainly looks (bigger, more shiny). Only the surface is coated so there are parts of the rotor that won't be free from rust. I have it, so it would be difficult to get base brakes. Would at least get PSCB or PCCB in future.

Power charge port - Looks are subjective. Are you going to lose sleep over getting .03 worse cd? I have it. Could go either way with this one.

ACC- I think this comes down to personal preference; however, I'd take the performance options over ACC any day.

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