Fake simulated gear changes coming to Porsche EVs ?

[Freeewilly]

A gearbox is only there to compensate the shortcomings of an ice.
It's just silly to hold on to old tech by adding fake gearbox sounds imho.

Porsche did a fantastic job by adding an actual two-speed gearbox and added exactly the right sound, not mimicking an ice but a pure genuine sound, it's just right.

Honest question, what's good about the two-speed gearbox? Taycan is neither the fastest, nor most efficient EV. Is it an unnecessary engineering when everyone else can achieve similar result with simpler design.
I often experience jerks and hesitations when coming to a hard stop, it's something I've never experience with any EV or ICE vehicles.

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[Murph7355]

From a pure experience point of view, it is more engaging and challenging to shift than simply pressing the pedal.

I have not tried one of those EVs that have simulated gears but certainly wouldnt mind of my Taycan had it, sounds fun!

"Challenging"? You're doing nothing in an EV that does this. Except potentially going slower!

 

[Murph7355]

I'd welcome this for slowing down, I miss ICE downshifting to scrub speed. As long is any system can be turned on/off I think it's a good thing.

That's what the brake pedal is for.

Remember that it is using regen until you get lower down the speed scale....

The limiting factor in scrubbing off speed are the tyres.

 

[Boss Hogg]

That's what the brake pedal is for.

Remember that it is using regen until you get lower down the speed scale....

The limiting factor in scrubbing off speed are the tyres.

That's where I've bene going wrong! I mean in situations when you just need to a take little speed off, rather than situations where the tyres are limiting, like overtaking and pulling back in smoothly without lighting up the brake lights. I previously activated the passive regen in my J1.1 but that steering wheel button has gone on J1.2 and the rate of slowing was minimal.

 

[Boss Hogg]

you can see the gear mode in one of the new Cayenne EV videos

so it turns out the footage in the Cayenne video is a Hyundai N screen with the fake gears.... hmmmm.... perhaps the reviewer is trying to tell us something he's not allowed to reveal.

 

[Dee]

Honest question, what's good about the two-speed gearbox? Taycan is neither the fastest, nor most efficient EV. Is it an unnecessary engineering when everyone else can achieve similar result with simpler design.

The Taycan was the fastest at the time compared to similar HP/weight ratio.
It's a choice, others add more HP/bigger motors and aren't more efficient either.

I often experience jerks and hesitations when coming to a hard stop, it's something I've never experience with any EV or ICE vehicles.

There's something wrong with your gearbox/software then.
You're driving in Sport Plus in normal driving conditions?
I don't think you understand the different driving modes.

This gearbox is the best I've ever experienced, especially the downshifts with rev-matching.
When you understand engineering, it's a masterpiece.

 

[Murph7355]

Honest question, what's good about the two-speed gearbox? Taycan is neither the fastest, nor most efficient EV. Is it an unnecessary engineering when everyone else can achieve similar result with simpler design.
I often experience jerks and hesitations when coming to a hard stop, it's something I've never experience with any EV or ICE vehicles.

The box on the Taycan changes up at something like 50mph and back down at 30mph...and I think only does so in certain modes. Eg I think it starts in 2nd in "normal".

As above, if you're experiencing jerks etc I think there could be something wrong. Though it may not be the box you're feeling.

The idea of it is to give strong acceleration along with decent top speed. I don't think strong range efficiency is a key driver.

But you have to take this in context of the rest of the drivetrain.

I'd rather Porsche hadn't been so cautious with power outputs and delivery. But can understand why they were. Push to pass goes some way to addressing that, and adds theatre. I'm sure they could go further with software, but we all know about them and software! (Mind you, I can now put a widget on my phone and they finally released a watch app. Yay! We are saved).

 

[Freeewilly]

The Taycan was the fastest at the time compared to similar HP/weight ratio.
It's a choice, others add more HP/bigger motors and aren't more efficient either.

There's something wrong with your gearbox/software then.
You're driving in Sport Plus in normal driving conditions?
I don't think you understand the different driving modes.

This gearbox is the best I've ever experienced, especially the downshifts with rev-matching.
When you understand engineering, it's a masterpiece.

Taycan certainly one of the high performance car on the market, but Lucid, Tesla, and newcomers like Yangwang U9 and Xiaomi Su7 all achieve respectful performance and efficiency with a single gear.

I'm not an engineer, but I understand what re-matching is. I also know Porsche is removing 2-gear transmission on the new Macan EVs.

 

[f1eng]

Honest question, what's good about the two-speed gearbox? Taycan is neither the fastest, nor most efficient EV. Is it an unnecessary engineering when everyone else can achieve similar result with simpler design.
I often experience jerks and hesitations when coming to a hard stop, it's something I've never experience with any EV or ICE vehicles.

It is there to give a higher top speed.

 

[Dee]

I also know Porsche is removing 2-gear transmission on the new Macan EVs.

Macan was never meant to be a sportscar anyway.

 

[Caraholic]

I think it would be a welcome addition as long as it’s a switchable item. Nothing wrong with adding a little more drama when you want some. Just shouldn’t be a forced option.

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