Help! Calling ex Tesla Model 3 owners

[TaycanBoss]

I have a Tesla Model 3 performance and i am strongly considering moving to a Taycan RWD or 4S however before i do this i would be really grateful if any ex Tesla Model 3 owners could provide their own insights including any regrets in making a similar move. I have made a list of the key areas that i think i would miss if i left Tesla:

• One pedal driving
• 0-60 3.1s without needing launch control
• Tesla Auto pilot
• Integrated dash cam and sentry mode
• Supercharger network
• Lack of regular servicing requirements
• Tesla app
• Understated looks
• Considerably cheaper

So again any feedback whatsoever would be appreciated : )

Thanks!

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[daveo4EV]

• One pedal driving - "meh" -it's great and it's not - you'll get used to it - don't over think it - I see Porsche's perspective - coasting is nice sometimes - it should be an option
• 0-60 - still plenty fast - get the 4S
• Porsche adaptive cruise control is great
• Porsche Lane Keeping Assist is not where near as good as Tesla's - so you'll have to decide if you want a car that is well built or a car that can steer itself
• Dash cam is available optionally
• EA network sucks - if fast charging network being reliable is your thing stick with Tesla - they have a huge lead
• no regular service requirements like most/all EV's
• Porsche app is ok - Tesla app is better
• Taycan looks too much better than Model 3
• save your money

you're either a Troll or not a Porsche customer - you've hit the highlight of differences between Porsche and Tesla - save your money

I personally prefer a vehicle that is well built, and the brakes actually work if you use them more than once - Model 3 is a great value for it's price point, but it's no Porsche and handling and ride quality, comfort and general build quality of the Taycan is way way way better than the Model 3

If you want a luxury sports sedan get the Taycan
if you want an affordable Appliance get the Tesla

 

[f10tt]

I have a Tesla Model 3 performance and i am strongly considering moving to a Taycan RWD or 4S however before i do this i would be really grateful if any ex Tesla Model 3 owners could provide their own insights including any regrets in making a similar move. I have made a list of the key areas that i think i would miss if i left Tesla:

• One pedal driving
• 0-60 3.1s without needing launch control
• Tesla Auto pilot
• Integrated dash cam and sentry mode
• Supercharger network
• Lack of regular servicing requirements
• Tesla app
• Understated looks
• Considerably cheaper

So again any feedback whatsoever would be appreciated : )

Thanks!

We have a Model Y Performance and a Plaid.

The RWD is markedly slower off the line than the MYP. Where it can keep up is on the highway - the trap speed of the RWD is incredible. One pedal driving you quickly forget because of just how well the brakes are blended on the Taycan.

For AP, Innodrive is alright and the latest update is a vast improvement over when I took delivery of the car just a month ago. It's nowhere near as good as Tesla's AP but it's getting to be a solid 8/10 imo.

The charging network was the biggest thing for me. I split my time 50/50 in the RTP area near you and the DC area. To date, I have not had a single issue with EA chargers in either NC, VA or MD.

I just installed a FitcamX 4k in the car. While you don't get sentry mode, for $200 it looks factory.

Now to the biggest thing...the Taycans presence on the road is absolutely massive for what it is. Tesla drivers act like you don't exist but you still see the cameras peeking out. You're right, the Tesla is massively understated compared to the Taycan. Overall though, I'm incredibly happy with my RWD.

 

[targaben]

I gave up with my model 3 performance. The 3.1s acceleration was the only thing I liked to be honest. Especially on roadwork motorways the auto pilot was sketchy. I didn't like the ipad. Build quality was awful. Purchase experience was non existent. I only used the option that made if feel similar to a normal car when taking foot off accelerator so the one pedal driving wasn't my cup of tea either. Sentry mode drained the battery.
Tesla supposedly opening the charging network at some point

The Porsche far superior and worth the extra in my opinion. But i love Porsche so I would say that.

 

[svp6]

Here you go:

• One pedal driving:
  • in the beginning you will miss it. After a while you realize the Porsche coasting is better. I hate when switching to Sport it engages a low level regen, have to disable it every time
• 0-60 3.1s without needing launch control
  • my 4S is definitely slower than the model 3, but still a very fast car. Similar to my previous P85D
• Tesla Auto pilot
  • get the adaptive cruise (to the very least) or Innodrive if you like autopilot. Pople who have Innodrive say it is not that far. I don't miss the lane keeping and lane changing, but my car does not have the adaptive cruise, and that was a mistake
• Integrated dash cam and sentry mode
  • you will miss those features. Porsche now offers a dashcam as an accessory. Cannot imagine why there is no Sentry mode with so many cameras on the vehicle....
• Supercharger network
  • depends on how often you take long trips and where you live. I did not miss it as much as I thought I would. EA is slowly improving. There is another country-wide network being planned, check Electrek for the news
• Lack of regular servicing requirements
  • My first recommended service is at around 18,000 miles - have not got there yet
• Tesla app
  • The Porsche app itself is not bad. The fact that connectivity to the car drops at random times is....
• Understated looks
  • Well, a lot of people will stare at you, the Taycan is stunning. Get used with it.
• Considerably cheaper
  • Life is short. If you can afford it, get it.....

 

[daveo4EV]

Lack of regular servicing requirements

• My first recommended service is at 11,000 miles - have not got there yet

I'm unaware of any actual "service" - Porsche lists my appointment at 17,000 miles (happening next tuesday) as an "inspection" - the list of things to do from the factory have no actual "changes/work/swaps" - it's simply a to-do list of things to "look at" on the vehicle - I will also get a US recall done at the same time.

does anyone have a list of actual service procedures for a Taycan - so far I've not found one and I've asked for the factory service guide - when presented to me by my service manager - it was a list of inspection items - again with no actual service items.

 

[svp6]

I'm unaware of any actual "service" - Porsche lists my appointment at 17,000 miles (happening next tuesday) as an "inspection" - the list of things to do from the factory have no actual "changes/work/swaps" - it's simply a to-do list of things to "look at" on the vehicle - I will also get a US recall done at the same time.

does anyone have a list of actual service procedures for a Taycan - so far I've not found one and I've asked for the factory service guide - when presented to me by my service manager - it was a list of inspection items - again with no actual service items.

I misunderstood the message - read it inspection "due at..." instead of "due in...". Looks like they want an inspection at ~18,000 miles or so. I fixed my post above

 

[Jhenson29]

Understated looks

This has to be a joke…

Who is out there saying “Hmm, I really like a car that’s understated. Maybe I should get a Taycan…”.

?

 

[XLR82XS]

I personally prefer a vehicle that is well built, and the brakes actually work if you use them more than once - Model 3 is a great value for it's price point, but it's no Porsche and handling and ride quality, comfort and general build quality of the Taycan is way way way better than the Model 3

If you want a luxury sports sedan get the Taycan
if you want an affordable Appliance get the Tesla

Ditto.

 

[fullmetalbaal]

I have a Tesla Model 3 performance and i am strongly considering moving to a Taycan RWD or 4S however before i do this i would be really grateful if any ex Tesla Model 3 owners could provide their own insights including any regrets in making a similar move. I have made a list of the key areas that i think i would miss if i left Tesla:

• One pedal driving
• 0-60 3.1s without needing launch control
• Tesla Auto pilot
• Integrated dash cam and sentry mode
• Supercharger network
• Lack of regular servicing requirements
• Tesla app
• Understated looks
• Considerably cheaper

So again any feedback whatsoever would be appreciated : )

Thanks!

One pedal driving - I still miss this, 5 months down the line. IMHO this should be a software option. Unlike many (most?) on here, I'm not a fan of the blended brakes. To me, they feel very different in regen vs. actual braking mode.

Acceleration - get the 4S. It is already markedly slower than the Model 3P, the RWD will be painful IMHO. The 4S already doesn't feel as effortlessly quick unless you have it in Sport mode.

Autopilot - I would not get the Porsche systems. They are far worse than Tesla, and not worth the money IMHO. The lane keeping for example is nowhere near as reliable as Tesla (which is already nowhere near perfect). Tesla can at least be used on longer road trips to take some of the effort off the driver - IMHO the Porsche systems aren't there yet. (IMHO the sweet spot right now is the free stuff Tesla has integrated standard, not FSD -- but that same stuff is a couple grand on a Porsche and substantially worse)

Dash Cam and Senty - You will miss that. The dash cams you can get after market are more expensive, and nowhere near the same functionality, and are visually in the way vs. integrated nicely. Sentry mode is something you'll just have to give up and miss. I don't understand why other OEMs are taking so long to offer sentry mode and integrated dash cams. Huge miss.

Supercharger network - if you road trip a lot, this too will be painful IMHO. Just browse the forum. Tons of people reporting issues (along with some folks seeing good experiences).

Tesla app - Porsche app is junk. It is unreliably, updates slowly, and designed by morons. (e.g., how is it that range left/current charge is below the fold, I mean seriously, wtf?). Sort of related: I really miss "phone as a key".



The Taycan looks amazing, rides amazing, has nicer seats, etc.

But the software weaknesses are real.

 

[buhhy]

NGL, this low key sounds like a troll post. It lists all of the supposed advantages of the Tesla and a bunch of stuff that a prospective wouldn't ask for an owner's perspective. Like if you think considerably cheaper and pedestrian looks are things you'll miss, why are you looking at the Taycan?

As an aside, I'm kinda confused why people are so attached to 1-pedal driving. I've driven plenty of it on my volt and I keep it off these days. It's more tiring and jerky and less safe especially in the environments it would shine in (city driving where any surprises can happen). Literally the only time 1-pedal is useful is in rush hour freeway traffic. The fact I couldn't turn it off in a Tesla I test drove was a deal breaker. That and the stupid yoke.

 

[im85288]

Insinuating that the OP is a troll because he asks for feedback from current/former M3 owners is bordering on ridiculous.

Other than the last two points which are a bit strange to prefer understated looks (maybe prefers not to stand out in the crowd) and it being considerably cheaper (which surely doesn’t need any feedback on) the other queries are legitimate questions.

Some prefer one pedal driving and some don’t..it’s personal preference. Personally it’s something I feel I will miss when I make my move into the Taycan world but maybe I won’t..time will tell.

Performance again was something that’s steered me away from the RWD or even 4S (which I have driven) as it’s noticeably slower than a M3P. I’m going GTS.

The rest everyone admits the software is behind that of many other brands (Mercedes/BMW etc)

But no denying the Taycan is the ultimate drivers EV currently on the market and in my eyes the best looking which at least for me is the decisive factor when pursuing the GTS model.

 

[XLR82XS]

The fact I couldn't turn it off in a Tesla I test drove was a deal breaker. That and the stupid yoke.

Ability to disable is there in Model 3. Agreed, that yoke is a JOKE.

 

[Reg]

Great balanced comments here. Two additions:

- If you are really concerned about charging network, I assume that you are traveling a lot on longer trips. If that is the case, you should also think about how quiet each of the cars are at 80 mph.

- On the understated looks. Although I think the 3 looks a bit odd, that can be a problem. I got the Carmine Red, and I do think it is a bit embarrassing that some people think it is a Ferrari and ask if they can take a picture. At one event I went to a young kid came up to me and gave me this.

I was blown away by this random act of kindness - especially since he walked away before I could lift my jaw off the floor and effusively thank him. (although of course I did thank him).

 

[TaycanBoss]

Insinuating that the OP is a troll because he asks for feedback from current/former M3 owners is bordering on ridiculous.

Other than the last two points which are a bit strange to prefer understated looks (maybe prefers not to stand out in the crowd) and it being considerably cheaper (which surely doesn’t need any feedback on) the other queries are legitimate questions.

Some prefer one pedal driving and some don’t..it’s personal preference. Personally it’s something I feel I will miss when I make my move into the Taycan world but maybe I won’t..time will tell.

Performance again was something that’s steered me away from the RWD or even 4S (which I have driven) as it’s noticeably slower than a M3P. I’m going GTS.

The rest everyone admits the software is behind that of many other brands (Mercedes/BMW etc)

But no denying the Taycan is the ultimate drivers EV currently on the market and in my eyes the best looking which at least for me is the decisive factor when pursuing the GTS model.

Thanks for this. I have had some build quality issues with my Tesla which i'm sure comes at no surprise as this is well documented and known. The reason i am looking at a Taycan is because its one of the best built EV car money can buy presently which is important to me after my experience with Tesla.

I don't really feel like its necessary for me to defend myself and i'm quite surprised by some of the negative feedback. I am not here to waste peoples time or create conflict. Regarding my last two comments, understated looks and value for money are not "strange" - again i'm not sure why i need to elaborate or defend these points

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