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[Sidicks]

I’ve had experience of both 20 and 21 on Taycan and coming from S7 and RS4 Audis am very happy with the ride on 21’s.. wonder if tyres make a difference. All my 21 experience has been P Zero which are a soft compound.

It's the sidewall construction that will make the most difference.

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[f1eng]

I’ve had experience of both 20 and 21 on Taycan and coming from S7 and RS4 Audis am very happy with the ride on 21’s.. wonder if tyres make a difference. All my 21 experience has been P Zero which are a soft compound.

The ride is mainly influenced by the sidewall construction and height not the rubber compound.
The height is quite a lot less when using 21" wheels since the tyres are low profile anyway so the sidewall isnt tall even on the 20s.

Anyway I was more looking for a quiet, comfortable estate car with a good turn of speed when I wanted it. The CT4S fits the bill perfectly for me.

 

[mystermykee]

And yet it wouldn’t have some of the other attributes that the GTS has. So I’m still not sure of your point.

You could buy a Turbo and have the ECU tweaked to make it like a Turbo S. And?

Let's try one more time. According to your signature, it looks like you have a GTS coming so I can understand your pride.

What is my point? Again....you said "...it’s much more than just tweaking the ECU." I'm trying to explain to you the GTS tuned suspension, I repeat, the GTS tuned suspension, is nothing more than a different software tune loaded for the ECUs that control everything suspension related including, but not limited to dampers, spring rates, ride height, PDCC, PASM, RAS etc....given the GTS uses the same hardware as the other trim levels. Would doing that to another trim level make it a GTS? NO. Never once did I say that. Aside from the badging, interior, and well cosmetic stuff, you're being sold and getting giddy over the GTS sport tuned suspension. I'm telling you exactly what it is...

What's next? Do the GTS cars have a different speaker for electric sport sound??? Good god man...

 

[Clod Reed]

What Porsche says…….The Taycan GTS's suspension hardware is borrowed from the Turbo, suggesting the hardware between models is different? but Porsche says the calibration and tuning are all specific to this car. There are adaptive air springs paired to Porsche's active suspension management software, along with torque vectoring and optional rear-axle
steering.
As for the suspension, the GTS has 20 percent stiffer anti-roll bars front and rear, and higher spring rates, while the three-chamber air suspension setup now uses all three chambers only for Normal mode, with Sport and Sport Plus both reverting to a single chamber, unlike the 4S. The optional PDCC active anti-roll bars and rear-wheel steering have also been configured to suit, and the cars we’ve driven had both those options fitted, while the steering takes on a different feel given the changes to the suspension. There are new 21-inch GTS rims too, some 5kg a set lighter than the existing 21-inch Mission E rim, while if you do order those 21s you get a sportier tyre over the more range-biased rubber fitted to the 20-inch wheels the car comes with as standard. ??‍?

 

[mystermykee]

Do you know for sure the dampers are the same and the base charge pressure in the air system is the same?

Don't know for sure. I was just saying if all hardware is the same, then it's just tune correct? I even suggested my point is moot if hardware is different.

 

[mystermykee]

What Porsche says…….The Taycan GTS's suspension hardware is borrowed from the Turbo, suggesting the hardware between models is different? but Porsche says the calibration and tuning are all specific to this car. There are adaptive air springs paired to Porsche's active suspension management software, along with torque vectoring and optional rear-axle
steering.
As for the suspension, the GTS has 20 percent stiffer anti-roll bars front and rear, and higher spring rates, while the three-chamber air suspension setup now uses all three chambers only for Normal mode, with Sport and Sport Plus both reverting to a single chamber, unlike the 4S. The optional PDCC active anti-roll bars and rear-wheel steering have also been configured to suit, and the cars we’ve driven had both those options fitted, while the steering takes on a different feel given the changes to the suspension. There are new 21-inch GTS rims too, some 5kg a set lighter than the existing 21-inch Mission E rim, while if you do order those 21s you get a sportier tyre over the more range-biased rubber fitted to the 20-inch wheels the car comes with as standard. ??‍?

Like I've said from the beginning, if hardware is different then my point is moot. But if it's only the roll bars... Good find.

I'm curious if the air bags are actually different across the models, but it seems from what you posted, that it might just be software config.

 

[Sidicks]

Let's try one more time. According to your signature, it looks like you have a GTS coming so I can understand your pride.

What is my point? Again....you said "...it’s much more than just tweaking the ECU." I'm trying to explain to you the GTS tuned suspension, I repeat, the GTS tuned suspension, is nothing more than a different software tune loaded for the ECUs that control everything suspension related including, but not limited to dampers, spring rates, ride height, PDCC, PASM, RAS etc....given the GTS uses the same hardware as the other trim levels. Would doing that to another trim level make it a GTS? NO. Never once did I say that. Aside from the badging, interior, and well cosmetic stuff, you're being sold and getting giddy over the GTS sport tuned suspension. I'm telling you exactly what it is...

I’m not ‘getting giddy’ over anything. The specifications of the GTS suit my needs better than the other models. If you have different priorities then naturally you’ll make different choices.

What's next? Do the GTS cars have a different speaker for electric sport sound??? Good god man...

Yes, the Sports sound is different for the GTS.

 

[AtTheGlen]

My input is based on several hours on the configurator prior to placing my Taycan GTS sedan order last September (delivery scheduled for early April at the L.A. PEC), and on input from Porsche sales and service reps. My comments below are roughly in configurator order.

I had black wheels on a 991.2 GT3 and I'm over that even on a sports car, but that's a personal decision. I went with the wheels painted in the deviated color to get a little brightness in the wheels. I'll soon see how that worked out.

I had originally spec'd a red GTS interior but when I looked at the images, I realized (as confirmed in the description) that with 2+1 rear seating, only the outboard seatbelts are red (or chalk); the center one is black. I didn't want the mismatch and I did want ventilated seats, so I went with the leather interior.

I originally spec'd most of the individual items in the Premium Package before realizing that I could get more for the same price. If you change anything here, don't lose Surround View. And, BTW, I have had Bose audio on my most recent Porsche vehicles, and I am pleased with it - in part because I don't often listen to the radio when driving.

I did not opt for the Technology Package although I did spec LCA separately. I did not select Park Assist - it's expensive and I can't imagine using it. I had ACC on a non-Porsche car a few years ago, and it left so much room in front that it was like having a sign on the back saying "Pass Me - Plenty of Room Up Front!", and then my car would slow down when the passing car pulled back into my lane. And I never tailgate. Hopefully others on the forum can give you actual Taycan ACC performance, especially the benefits when driving in heavy traffic. There are potential savings here that could be applied to Performance Options (see below).

I would have liked to have "Exterior Mirrors Fully Painted In Exterior Color" on my 911 but totally missed that option. That changes the black base to body color, which could look good on your car. But I notice that you have selected black door handles. I had those on my GT3 but kept a more body color appearance on our current 911.

The performance options including rear-wheel steering, PCCBs and PDCC Sport were important to me, and before locking, you could give some thought to eliminating certain high-cost options and using those savings on performance. I've had RWS on two Porsches now and it defines "on-rails" cornering - great for those pre-intersection U-turn loops that seem unique to TX divided highways. PCCBs have great stopping power, which is important for a heavy car, but I'll admit to liking them as much for preventing brake dust buildup. I've never had the newer surface-coated brakes - they might be good, as well. Also, for your car color, consider black painted calipers, regardless of which brake option you select.

I have the puddle light logo projectors on our 911 and ordered them on the Taycan. It won't make the car handle better but I think they are cool. I ordered the variable light control roof - I didn't need it but after talking with the sales associate, I ordered it. Even in sunny SoCal, I don't know if I'll really use it, so read what others say and if it's the sunroof vs. money toward PDCC-S, a brake upgrade and RWS, I'd go with the performance options.

I'm big on safety features and on the 911, I was able to order lane-keeping assist without ACC, which also gave me a big speed limit sign in the dash display. LKA is a bit intrusive, so I'd typically only use it on trips.

You have selected 4-zone climate control suggesting that you will have rear-seat passengers. If so, revisit 2+1 seating if you will occasionally want to have 3 passengers in the back. As far I can tell, it doesn't ruin the 2+2 F/R seating look except you get the additional rear seat belt.

For a sporty Taycan variant like the GTS, I'd stay with the Race-Tex steering wheel as others have suggested.

I also did Porsche crests on the headrests, but I also added the GTS logo on the center console storage compartment lid. After all, it is a GTS. I'm a sucker for illuminated door sill guards (black aluminum) but as I recall it requires black aluminum interior trim.

I was flying in the dark regarding E-mobility options. Hopefully, others on the forum can provide good input. I selected everything that you did plus the intelligent range manager, the 19.2-kW on-board charger (service advisor recommendation, but necessary??, 120V and/or 240V??), the 150-kW/400V charger (needed for high-speed charging), and mobile charger connect. On the last option, this might be redundant to what is included with the car as standard equipment. I have the Cayenne charger mounted on the wall. I'll need to return that when turning in the vehicle, and then I'll mount the one that comes with the car. It looks as if the mobile charge connect could be useful on a road trip where I could use a friend's or relative's 120V or 240V outlet to charge without unhooking the wall-mounted unit in the garage. (The charger cord will only reach one side of the Taycan in my garage, so I guess the mobile one could be used from the other side if I have another 240V outset installed.) I trust that you'll be able to get solid info about these options.

Final thought, the cost of PEC delivery is less than what a 1.5-hour driving experience would cost. You could give some thought to renting a car to drive to Atlanta to take delivery. I've been told that this could add a couple weeks or more to receipt of the car, although that would not have been the case with me.

Please feel free to send a message via TaycanForum (I'm new here, so I assume that's possible) if you have any questions. All the best with you new purchase!

 

[Domy69]

Sorry but I find there is no reason to argue about a GTS or a 4S regarding sportiness for a 2250kg car.. it is not and it never will be a 911. With a 911 the gap is really between a 4S or a GTS, not with the Taycan.

The only reason to choose a GTS is better residual value with equivalent equipment. Maybe I made the mistake of taking a 4S fully equipped almost like a GTS with PTV+ carbon race tex steering wheel, sports chrono. Sport sound, 18 way seats etc.. it costs me 6000€ less than the GTS but in residual value I'm sure I'll lose.

On another side 4S is in cross tourismo with a 2cm level chassis higher, this for a daily car, is less stressful on speed bumps and rough roads IMO and depending my priorities for this car and the use that I will make.

From the 4S they all have a sporty behavior with a healthy chassis and incredibly precise steering.

To return to the inital post if you buy a GTS you absolutely need the GTS interior full pack!!

For me It makes no sense not to take it when mechanically there is already so little difference (stability bar, different software prog. of the suspensions (harware are the same) and electronic sound slightly different). Oh yes rear motor is slightly more powerfull but not signifiant and it seems that the real range is less than the 4S (following a lot of members in this forum).

 

[Sidicks]

Sorry but I find there is no reason to argue about a GTS or a 4S regarding sportiness for a 2250kg car.. it is not and it never will be a 911. With a 911 the gap is really between a 4S or a GTS, not with the Taycan.

The only reason to choose a GTS is better residual value with equivalent equipment. Maybe I made the mistake of taking a 4S fully equipped almost like a GTS with PTV+ carbon race tex steering wheel, sports chrono. Sport sound, 18 way seats etc.. it costs me 6000€ less than the GTS but in residual value I'm sure I'll lose.

On another side 4S is in cross tourismo with a 2cm level chassis higher, this for a daily car, is less stressful on speed bumps and rough roads IMO and depending my priorities for this car and the use that I will make.

This is the point!

From the 4S they all have a sporty behavior with a healthy chassis and incredibly precise steering.

To return to the inital post if you buy a GTS you absolutely need the GTS interior full pack!!

For me It makes no sense not to take it when mechanically there is already so little difference (stability bar, different software prog. of the suspensions (harware are the same) and electronic sound slightly different).

Oh yes rear motor is slightly more powerfull but not signifiant and it seems that the real range is less than the 4S (following a lot of members in this forum).

Are you sure about this? Evidence posted above suggests that’s not the case

 

[Domy69]

This is the point!



Are you sure about this? Evidence posted above suggests that’s not the case

For the rear motor yes but I do not know if it is only software or hardware. For the range some of this Forum had a 4s before the Gts and complained about that

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