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Final form: Porsche’s EVs will now Plug and (plug and) Charge at Tesla Superchargers
The bigger picture is that Porsche is ahead of the game, and now even ahead of Tesla in some ways, because Porsche owners, who are used to being spoiled by the premium brand, can now seamlessly charge at more chargers than any other brand.

Sadly,
pre-2026 Taycan owners seem to be left out of this pool of owners and will continue to need to use the app to charge at Tesla stations. I’m not sure what is preventing Porsche from allowing them to Plug and Charge on Tesla’s network since they can already Plug and Charge on Electrify America.
 
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Final form: Porsche’s EVs will now Plug and (plug and) Charge at Tesla Superchargers
The bigger picture is that Porsche is ahead of the game, and now even ahead of Tesla in some ways, because Porsche owners, who are used to being spoiled by the premium brand, can now seamlessly charge at more chargers than any other brand.

Sadly,
pre-2026 Taycan owners seem to be left out of this pool of owners and will continue to need to use the app to charge at Tesla stations. I’m not sure what is preventing Porsche from allowing them to Plug and Charge on Tesla’s network since they can already Plug and Charge on Electrify America.
With sales declining on the 1.2, they need to give you reasons to buy a new one. 🤷‍♂️

Planned obsolescence.
 

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Very odd that the taycans are not included, it’s just exchanging certificates on the ccs protocol, I guess it’s some silly thing that got caught in the middle, it can’t be a hardware issue..
Just like the Audi Etron GT first gen doesn’t have plug and charge at all while the car has the same hardware just different software integration
 

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Very odd that the taycans are not included, it’s just exchanging certificates on the ccs protocol, I guess it’s some silly thing that got caught in the middle, it can’t be a hardware issue..
Just like the Audi Etron GT first gen doesn’t have plug and charge at all while the car has the same hardware just different software integration
The answer is likely still $$. Software development costs money. Also guessing that Tesla charges the manufacturer for this feature too.

And with the “Porsche is in trouble” threads going on, I guess they aren’t looking for ways to spend more money. Total speculation on my part.
 


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Used a Tesla supercharger for the first time a few days ago. Bought a pawnshop adapter and wanted to make sure it worked. Honestly, the Tesla ap kinda sucked and locked up a few times. Was really kind of surprising because the Porsche ap has never let me down. Tesla is supposed to be this great tech company, but it’s not. This was on the latest iPhone.
 

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Personally I don’t think this is such a big issue. How hard is it to use a credit card or Tesla app? This reminds me of the obsession over frunks or cup holders. Come one ppl you drive this car because you want an EV and this this THE best driving one out there. See you at the track baby..
 

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My observation from both J1.2 experience and hearing from J1 owners on this forum is that Porsche generally considers software as "final" from the moment the car leaves the factory. I wouldn't be surprised if they had an internal name such as "firmware" (german equivalent of course) to describe their position that new features are for new models only.
 


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the Porsche ap has never let me down
Really? My Porsche app hasn't connected to the car in over a month. Does say "Just updated" in the upper left corner, but the app is useless to me.
 

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I suspect it will come to the pre-2026 Taycans, eventually.

If it makes us feel any better, my understanding is that Tesla compatibility is finally available on BMW EVs...except for 2026 models.
 

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My observation from both J1.2 experience and hearing from J1 owners on this forum is that Porsche generally considers software as "final" from the moment the car leaves the factory. I wouldn't be surprised if they had an internal name such as "firmware" (german equivalent of course) to describe their position that new features are for new models only.
They did upgrade all the 2020-2022 cars to the 2023 spec.
J1.2 seems to be a farce though - I mean they can't even update the infotainment of the pre-26 cars to the 2026 version.
I'm not even going to get started with J1 where a significant component of the usability of the car (charge planner) is unusable and instead of planning from Day 1 of keeping all the cars on the same software they created this artificial divide between J1.1 and J1.2, even though they're running the same exact PCM hardware.

The whole OTA story is a disaster - in the same group the VW MEB cars get all their updates OTA for all the control units and also the infotainment (although that infotainment is a laggy barely usable POS).

2027 they're doing yet another not backwards compatible thing, and then 2028 they want to introduce a whole new model...
 

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They did upgrade all the 2020-2022 cars to the 2023 spec.
J1.2 seems to be a farce though - I mean they can't even update the infotainment of the pre-26 cars to the 2026 version.
I'm not even going to get started with J1 where a significant component of the usability of the car (charge planner) is unusable and instead of planning from Day 1 of keeping all the cars on the same software they created this artificial divide between J1.1 and J1.2, even though they're running the same exact PCM hardware.

The whole OTA story is a disaster - in the same group the VW MEB cars get all their updates OTA for all the control units and also the infotainment (although that infotainment is a laggy barely usable POS).

2027 they're doing yet another not backwards compatible thing, and then 2028 they want to introduce a whole new model...
Ford sucked at OTA when the Mach E was released in 2021. But they admitted that and invested in making it better, and it *did* get better.
With Porsche making such big investments in EVs (Cayenne, etc) when others are backing away from EV, seems like an opportunity to say EV high performance also means the best software, and we're investing to make that happen.
 

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Ford sucked at OTA when the Mach E was released in 2021. But they admitted that and invested in making it better, and it *did* get better.
With Porsche making such big investments in EVs (Cayenne, etc) when others are backing away from EV, seems like an opportunity to say EV high performance also means the best software, and we're investing to make that happen.
They promised OTA updates in 2019; it's 2026 and they haven't delivered on that promise beside map updates and UI text version updates.
Whoever is responsible for software at porsche has 0 vision.
 

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Ford sucked at OTA when the Mach E was released in 2021. But they admitted that and invested in making it better, and it *did* get better.
With Porsche making such big investments in EVs (Cayenne, etc) when others are backing away from EV, seems like an opportunity to say EV high performance also means the best software, and we're investing to make that happen.
Porsche is also backing away from EVs. They (and most major manufacturers) should hire a 3rd party to build a comprehensive software system ground up.

The issue is they Frankenstein it and constantly “half patch” to make different systems work together.

Ford did this on the Mach E which is why it was such a mess and took dozens and dozens of updates just to fix bugs.

Ideally updates would be for features and not mostly to fix problems.
 

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I suspect it will come to the pre-2026 Taycans, eventually.

If it makes us feel any better, my understanding is that Tesla compatibility is finally available on BMW EVs...except for 2026 models.
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