Possible total loss?

[gnr3312]

thanks everyone for the input. somehow the shop said it's fixable. i mean i get that everything can be fixed...but at what cost. so i'll be heading to the shop today to get clarification on what exactly they mean and such. there's no way they're gonna convince me it'll "buff out". still waiting on the insurance appraiser to look at the car as well

You are correct, anything is fixable, it doesn’t mean the insurance will go for it. Someone crashed into me when I was driving my MB GLS580. The MB repair quote was $79k and the value was $95k so the insurance just wrote it off.
Make sure it’s a Porsche quote.

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[MrStak]

You are correct, anything is fixable, it doesn’t mean the insurance will go for it. Someone crashed into me when I was driving my MB GLS580. The MB repair quote was $79k and the value was $95k so the insurance just wrote it off.
Make sure it’s a Porsche quote.

how do i get porsche to quote the repair? it was brought to the only porsche certified shop in the NY area

 

[FlyingPoint]

how do i get porsche to quote the repair? it was brought to the only porsche certified shop in the NY area

If it's at a Certfied Porsch Collision Center shop, you will be fine. Here is some pic's of my damage that added up to $27K at a PCC shop:

 

[PorscheTaycan]

If it's at a Certfied Porsch Collision Center shop, you will be fine. Here is some pic's of my damage that added up to $27K at a PCC shop:

That would buff right out… jk

 

[gnr3312]

If it's at a Certfied Porsch Collision Center shop, you will be fine. Here is some pic's of my damage that added up to $27K at a PCC shop:

Like I said, everything is repairable for a price lol

 

[MidwestPCar]

Insurance companies will offer you replacement cost. If they lowball you, then contest it and send them comparable cars listed on carmax, carvana, etc. If reasonable, and not an outlier, they will usually agree to the amount.

I second this. I have had 2 cars totaled (neither my fault, and they were older cars), but in each case, insurance lowballed me. I learned to ask what their comparables were, and they had chosen lower trims, with low specs, higher miles, etc. to build their value. I fought for myself, pointing out correct trims, relevant specs and some mods (e.g. wheels), etc. and in each case, increased the value about 30%. It didn't get contentious, but it was frustrating and arduous because of the emotions involved. But worth the effort.

Good luck.

 

[BigBob]

If it's at a Certfied Porsch Collision Center shop, you will be fine. Here is some pic's of my damage that added up to $27K at a PCC shop:

It's kind of criminal scrapping a car for that minimal damage don't you think? If it was a ford or a vw something or other, it would be 1 or 2 k and you wouldn't even be thinking about writing it off.

Not a criticism of you in anyway, just how nuts the costs are to repair this stuff. Battery damage i get, but bodywork? Really? Mad world.

 

[AutoX]

It's kind of criminal scrapping a car for that minimal damage don't you think? If it was a ford or a vw something or other, it would be 1 or 2 k and you wouldn't even be thinking about writing it off.

Not a criticism of you in anyway, just how nuts the costs are to repair this stuff. Battery damage i get, but bodywork? Really? Mad world.

Porsche tax is real.

 

[FlyingPoint]

It's kind of criminal scrapping a car for that minimal damage don't you think? If it was a ford or a vw something or other, it would be 1 or 2 k and you wouldn't even be thinking about writing it off.

Not a criticism of you in anyway, just how nuts the costs are to repair this stuff. Battery damage i get, but bodywork? Really? Mad world.

Folks don't realize the cost to repairs these cars. It adds up quick. Thankfully, the insurance paid all but the deductible.
Pre-owned, heavily depreciatied Taycan's don't have a chance of being repaired for even the smallest of accidents.

No wonder the cost to insure these cars has skyrocketed.

 

[BigBob]

Folks don't realize the cost to repairs these cars. It adds up quick. Thankfully, the insurance paid all but the deductible.
Pre-owned, heavily depreciatied Taycan's don't have a chance of being repaired for even the smallest of accidents.

No wonder the cost to insure these cars has skyrocketed.

I guess the point I was trying to make is they shouldn’t cost as much as they charge. At end of day a body panel in a Porsche ain’t much different to one on a VW Passat, nor is how hard it is to fit. Just the price is different.
it just seems so wasteful trashing a car that could very reasonably be repaired were the pricing fair.

 

[FlyingPoint]

I guess the point I was trying to make is they shouldn’t cost as much as they charge. At end of day a body panel in a Porsche ain’t much different to one on a VW Passat, nor is how hard it is to fit. Just the price is different.
it just seems so wasteful trashing a car that could very reasonably be repaired were the pricing fair.

During my repair process, which I tracked pretty closely the repair protocal is much more detailed than other lower priced vehicles. The process strives to make the car "as new". For example:

1. The right rear wheel was replaced. It didn't sustain damage that could not have been refinished to new. It had a tire scuff and not metal damage.
2. The shop incurred considerable time to align the rear door to Porsche specs.
3. Right rear door was replaced.
4. Headline was removed and reinstalled
5. Battery disconnected and reconnected.
6. The paint work was extraordinarily time consuming and expensive as four surfaces were affected.
7. They sent the car to Porsch dealership to be aligned, and recalibrated. Why? There was no front end damage whatsoever.
8. Labor was $13k.

It adds up quick.

 

[alynn3]

Just got a total loss on mine last week, and the damage on mine looks significantly less than yours. I'd be very surprised if it were not a total loss.

 

[JackSparrow]

2 Rims, Front cover, sensors, maybe a headlight, a bunch of supports, mounts, brackets, frame straightening, the whole side, the rear fender cut out and welded in, a ton of finish work, the side trim, doors, and support pieces as well. Frame work in the rear, headliner, door panels, traction battery disconnect/reconnect. Tons of prep to a very high standard, multiple coat premium paint work. Diminished value payment.
Alignments, calibration for sensors, likely replace every front sensor in the front cover.
I would guess $85,000 will do it.

It’s about a $50k vehicle, if the repair exceeds about $30k it will likely be declared a total loss.

 

[snstevens]

There is no way in hell that this car can be fixed for <$60k, and I'm pretty sure that is more than the car's value prior to the accident. Get a Porsche Certified repair center to do the cost/repair analysis.

The question of whether the car can be repaired or not depends almost entirely on the guilty party's insurance company. They will see the cost adding up quickly, and just as quickly they will shut it down and say "Total".

If there is any ambiguity at all, ask for a full frame alignment study. If the frame is tweaked ever so slightly it often moves out of what Porsche considers a repairable spec. Remember that this is essentially a "track car", and the only way Porsche would approve a repair is if the car can be tracked after the repair. From your pictures a frame alignment issue seems a real possibility.

 

[MrStak]

Verdict is in. Total loss. But the valuation of the car is laughable. Gonna have to send them the window sticker and comparable taycans in the area. CCC is the valuation company my insurance is using. I got brand new tires less than a month old and somehow they measured it at 5/32. What a joke

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