Range averaging an anemic 100mi 2022 RWD Taycan!!!!!!!

[Willie]

Forgot to add, charging full or almost full and and not draining the power for longer period is also another detrimental factor is batteries. They are not built as long term storage tanks .

For infrequent driving and/or long term storage, best is to charge upto at around 50% capacity .

I dont do 100% The dealer that has my car took it to 100%
Thanks for your help

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[W1NGE]

Thanks for very much. No, I do not preset either.
The Trip Data "since start" indicates the following:

Avg E Cons 2.3 mi/kWh

Just noticed my dealer is charging the battery for his" first hand "road test. Currently 96%/267mi.

Ok so that’s what we’d expect with short trips - 2.3 mi/kWh - poor consumption.

Pretty sure if you did a 100 mile trip your consumption would drop significantly and you’d be seeing 3.0 mi/kWh or higher.

Not expecting the dealers test to highlight an issue and your 100% charge is heading to what I predicted earlier.

 

[DerekS]

NOW at 99%/276 range

That seems perfectly inline for RWD with PB+ and in fact, better than I am currently getting.

 

[Archimedes]

That seems perfectly inline for RWD with PB+ and in fact, better than I am currently getting.

But he's not getting that mileage on the road. If you look at his earlier post, the estimator says one thing, but the actual mileage he's getting is less than half, i.e., he drives 20 miles and the estimator drops by 40 miles.

 

[Archimedes]

Ok so that’s what we’d expect with short trips - 2.3 mi/kWh - poor consumption.

But that's not 100 mile range poor consumption. He should still be getting over 190 miles of range 2.3 mi/kWh.

 

[Windpower]

I often drive weekends on a 160 mile round trip to our summer house (even in the winter). On this longer drive I’m getting about 3.4 miles per kwh and easily make it back and forth on one 85% charge ending usually with 10% to 18% charge.
I also have seen that short trips (back and forth to work, which is 16 miles round trip) I see much higher consumption, around 2.6 to 2.8 miles per kwh.
As for the estimated range, personally I don’t put much faith in range estimates on my Taycan or my Tesla. We call the cars range estimate a ‘guess-o-meter’ because it’s not terribly accurate. The state-of-charge seems to be accurate so that’s my gauge of choice.

 

[W1NGE]

But that's not 100 mile range poor consumption. He should still be getting over 190 miles of range 2.3 mi/kWh.

You forget that the battery is being charged in between times and so never really used. The range estimate is therefore an extrapolation based on pretty poor consumption data whereas if the OP drove the car further then the range would extend as the consumption would reduce (all other things being equal).

 

[QueenBean]

Tracked from fully charged range and compared it to actual miles driven (prior to the next charge) for a period of 6 weeks. Average range = 100mi. +/-. Basically averaging 1/2 actual miles for every 1.25 range miles. Dealer service manager kept my 2022 RWD Taycan car for 2 days and reported "no issues". He actually told me that he has seen "many Taycen's with similar range". I would not accept his conclusion so he had me bring the car back (today) so he could drive it for 3 or more days.
Has anyone experienced this problem? I drive mostly in the city, at normal speed, and average less than 500 miles per month.
BTW, does anyone know how to contact Kjell Gruner, CEO Porsche North America.?
Finally, how do you engage/disengage the child safety lock?
Thank you

Try going on a 300+ mile road trip, then see what your guess-o-meter reports for projected range. If you do not go on road trips, seems like there is no issue. The battery has a pretty extensive warranty.

People seem very hung-up on the estimated range without ever testing the limits of their Taycan in real world driving.

 

[Archimedes]

You forget that the battery is being charged in between times and so never really used. The range estimate is therefore an extrapolation based on pretty poor consumption data whereas if the OP drove the car further then the range would extend as the consumption would reduce (all other things being equal).

What are you talking about? You’re saying the car is showing poor consumption data and extrapolating that into a poor range estimate? But that’s not what happened here. His range estimate is fine, it’s his actual mileage is awful. And 2.3 is not that poor of a consumption rate. It’s still an actual range over 190 miles. Nothing you said remotely explains why he’s getting 100 miles of actual range. Something is wrong either with his powertrain or with the PCM.

i show 2.3 all the time and I still get 200+ miles of actual range. And I do mostly short trips.

 

[W1NGE]

What are you talking about? You’re saying the car is showing poor consumption data and extrapolating that into a poor range estimate? But that’s not what happened here. His range estimate is fine, it’s his actual mileage is awful. And 2.3 is not that poor of a consumption rate. It’s still an actual range over 190 miles. Nothing you said remotely explains why he’s getting 100 miles of actual range. Something is wrong either with his powertrain or with the PCM.

i show 2.3 all the time and I still get 200+ miles of actual range. And I do mostly short trips.

Suggest re-reading - clear to me (and others apparently).

Range starts at a given value before starting a journey. OP makes a very short journey and has noticed poor consumption and then extrapolated from that what the range would work out to be overall which is not how to calculate.

OP has not driven 100 miles from the data provided - all the trips listed above are somewhat less than that before recharging or making a new trip.

 

[Archimedes]

Suggest re-reading - clear to me (and others apparently).

Range starts at a given value before starting a journey. OP makes a very short journey and has noticed poor consumption and then extrapolated from that what the range would work out to be overall which is not how to calculate.

OP has not driven 100 miles from the data provided - all the trips listed above are somewhat less than that before recharging or making a new trip.

Not sure if math is a challenge for you, but based on his post, he drove 111 miles and his car said that he had 37 miles of range left. It also showed that his estimated range had dropped by 206 miles since he started the first trip.

Couple simple things one can glean from that. First, it's not normal for a Taycan. Second, it's not 2.3 miles per kW. Either his car's battery is not functioning properly (i.e., the true range he's getting is low/mid 100s) or his PCM is not working properly (and remaining range is artificially low). Just because he did short trips should not result in those numbers (assuming they are both real numbers). I drive my Taycan just like he depicted, I regularly see 2.3 mi/kWh and my range estimator never shows what his is showing. Mine is always consistent with actual mileage and has been from the start.

 

[4thPcar]

Tracked from fully charged range and compared it to actual miles driven (prior to the next charge) for a period of 6 weeks. Average range = 100mi. +/-. Basically averaging 1/2 actual miles for every 1.25 range miles. Dealer service manager kept my 2022 RWD Taycan car for 2 days and reported "no issues". He actually told me that he has seen "many Taycen's with similar range". I would not accept his conclusion so he had me bring the car back (today) so he could drive it for 3 or more days.
Has anyone experienced this problem? I drive mostly in the city, at normal speed, and average less than 500 miles per month.
BTW, does anyone know how to contact Kjell Gruner, CEO Porsche North America.?
Finally, how do you engage/disengage the child safety lock?
Thank you

I just drove my 22 RWD from San Diego to Long Beach (about 90 miles), spent the weekend and probably drove 20+ more in town, then returned home with about 75 miles of range left. I had it fully charged before leaving. There's something wrong with your vehicle. I don't see where you provide the spec of your battery which is obviously relevant to the topic, maybe I missed it.

 

[QueenBean]

Try charging to 100%, start your road trip, ignore the range estimate and use battery pack state of charge instead. Head to a DC Fast Charging station or Level 2 around 10%. This should recalibrate your guess-o-meter, or prove you have a serious issue in terms of battery pack state of health.

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