Taycan 4S or Turbo S ?

[snstevens]

You'll find that the 4s is more than satisfying to drive. It accelerates and handles very well.

Assuming the options on both cars are nearly identical, then the 4s has several other advantages -

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[Caraholic]

Turbo S without question. Though I would try to find a CPO one. Not sure why this would even be a question at the same price unless you are specking it yourself.

 

[mcr21]

Will try the Turbo and report back. Wondering if that is the point of no return for "upgrading" though

Tried the Turbo today, and there is definitely more punch to it than on the 4S. The car I drove did not have PTV or PDCC, but going 40-60 mph the steering felt firmer than on the 4S - any suggestions on why that is (mine has Power Steering Plus, the Turbo I tried did not)?

Also, was frankly not overly impressed with Burmester vs the Bose in my current car. Somewhat clearer tones but given the meaningful price difference + the Turbo had noise-insulated glass I would have expected more. With that said, I did use Spotify on wireless CarPlay.

 

[Archimedes]

What kind of a comparison is that? Even with the (low) mileage difference, you are comparing a 130K car to a 230K car. It’s like asking would you buy a new 4S or a Lamborghini with 5000 miles.

More like $145k vs. $195k if similarly optioned. Throw in the used factor, it’s a wash from a market value perspective. It’s an interesting question. I had a somewhat similar decision and went 4S, but it’s a tough call and all about personal preference.

 

[WattTurbo]

mine has Power Steering Plus, the Turbo I tried did not

In the US, at least, PSP is standard on the turbo.

 

[mcr21]

In the US, at least, PSP is standard on the turbo.

Not the case in the UK as far as I can tell - it is listed as an option in the current configurator.

 

[Midlifecrisis]

Tried the Turbo today, and there is definitely more punch to it than on the 4S. The car I drove did not have PTV or PDCC, but going 40-60 mph the steering felt firmer than on the 4S - any suggestions on why that is (mine has Power Steering Plus, the Turbo I tried did not)?

Also, was frankly not overly impressed with Burmester vs the Bose in my current car. Somewhat clearer tones but given the meaningful price difference + the Turbo had noise-insulated glass I would have expected more. With that said, I did use Spotify on wireless CarPlay.

I thought PTV was standard on the Turbo. It is listed in my spec as a standard option

 

[kmcdonal]

I had a new 4S, but I am mostly likely going for a used Turbo this next time around. Given the depreciation on Taycans, it is hard to justify going new. Plus some of the used Turbos are low mileage and come with the CPO warranty.

 

[mystermykee]

Tried the Turbo today, and there is definitely more punch to it than on the 4S. The car I drove did not have PTV or PDCC, but going 40-60 mph the steering felt firmer than on the 4S - any suggestions on why that is (mine has Power Steering Plus, the Turbo I tried did not)?

Same wheels/tires? Probably in your head. Air suspension settings are the same in 4S and up, except GTS.

 

[Vim Schrotnock]

More like $145k vs. $195k if similarly optioned. Throw in the used factor, it’s a wash from a market value perspective. It’s an interesting question. I had a somewhat similar decision and went 4S, but it’s a tough call and all about personal preference.

No question - get the Turbo S. There is simply no comparison on the acceleration, and you can't really 'similarly option' both cars. So, in terms of driving enjoyment, looks, and just knowing you are driving the best that Porsche makes, the Turbo S wins hands-down. In terms of financials, you will take a massive hit on the 4S in the first year, and minimal depreciation on the Turbo S.

 

[Archimedes]

No question - get the Turbo S. There is simply no comparison on the acceleration, and you can't really 'similarly option' both cars. So, in terms of driving enjoyment, looks, and just knowing you are driving the best that Porsche makes, the Turbo S wins hands-down. In terms of financials, you will take a massive hit on the 4S in the first year, and minimal depreciation on the Turbo S.

You can spec the cars identically, save for the motors. The difference is about $50k. To turn a 3.4 second car into a 2.6 second car. Not everyone sees that as good value for the dollar.

And minimal depreciation? Have you seen the sale prices of used Turbo S’s these days? And depending on when that 2020 Turbo S was manufactured, the warranty may be just about running out, and CPO will only pick up two additional years.

 

[mcr21]

I had a new 4S, but I am mostly likely going for a used Turbo this next time around. Given the depreciation on Taycans, it is hard to justify going new. Plus some of the used Turbos are low mileage and come with the CPO warranty.

No question - get the Turbo S. There is simply no comparison on the acceleration, and you can't really 'similarly option' both cars. So, in terms of driving enjoyment, looks, and just knowing you are driving the best that Porsche makes, the Turbo S wins hands-down. In terms of financials, you will take a massive hit on the 4S in the first year, and minimal depreciation on the Turbo S.

If you can afford it and like to actively/regularly fun drive your car, definitely go for the Turbo S.

Decided against switching my 4S at this stage, but when the refresh or 2.0 is out a made-to-order Turbo or Turbo S will definitely be on the agenda.

 

[Vim Schrotnock]

You can spec the cars identically, save for the motors. The difference is about $50k. To turn a 3.4 second car into a 2.6 second car. Not everyone sees that as good value for the dollar.

And minimal depreciation? Have you seen the sale prices of used Turbo S’s these days? And depending on when that 2020 Turbo S was manufactured, the warranty may be just about running out, and CPO will only pick up two additional years.

Well, you can't quite get the Turbo look - don't think the rear carbon is possible, and it doesn't say 'Turbo S' on the doorsills...

You're talking about spending $50K to make a 3.8 sec car look like a 2.6 sec car - not something I would do. Pretty much every dollar you spend on options goes to zero on resale. I'm assuming the Turbo S has already seen the biggest hit, given it's at the 4S price now. I'll stick with my two points, from a performance and an economic standpoint, the Turbo S is the pick.

 

[ridersinc]

Hello... I have a CPO 2021 Taycan Turbo S and a new 992 911 Turbo S. All I can say is that the Taycan Turbo S requires restraint when driving on residential roads here in SoCal... because 50mph feels like 25mph in the Taycan Turbo S and happens astonishingly quickly. I'll probably go for a GTS or Turbo ST variant in my future Taycan "upgrade". Since CPO Turbo S prices seem to be dropping fast, you may be able to get a 2021 (I believe that has plug and charge) Turbo S for a good deal in a few months if not weeks! The Turbo S comes with a lot of nice bits standard that are options on the other variants. Best of luck!

 

[Archimedes]

Well, you can't quite get the Turbo look - don't think the rear carbon is possible, and it doesn't say 'Turbo S' on the doorsills...

You're talking about spending $50K to make a 3.8 sec car look like a 2.6 sec car - not something I would do. Pretty much every dollar you spend on options goes to zero on resale. I'm assuming the Turbo S has already seen the biggest hit, given it's at the 4S price now. I'll stick with my two points, from a performance and an economic standpoint, the Turbo S is the pick.

But you’re ignoring that it’s a first year model, and a 3-4 year old car depending upon initial delivery date. Most people would take that into consideration. There’s a reason that car is selling for $50k+ off sticker.

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