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That is only the case for the Turbo S, where the launch control is unlimited stock, not the case at all for lower trims.


Impossible to answer, since this depends way too much on traction and vehicle weight.
The 100-200 times are much more indicative of the performance, as they mostly cut that out.
i’m really not interested in the speeds from 100 to 200 …..much more concerned about low end torque 0 to 60 and quarter mile and cost….. but thanks for the reply
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I don't have the patience to sit through that dubbed video.
If someone else does, please post the 0-60 improvement and how they achieved it.
The easiest thing in the world to choose English under titles. Dubbed?? Where?

I watched the video.

But I couldn't see any advantage.

The value from 100 to 200 km/h is supposed to be a little better, but nothing else. The Bush to Pass button then no longer works.

What's the point of all this? And how much does it cost? (Price/performance)

It doesn't make sense !!!
Little better?? From 8.4 to 5.2. (100-200) Thats a monumental improvement. And no need to use the button, even better.
 

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The Push-to-pass-Button is kind of gimmick (like a Turbo overboost). However since the base power is Limited just by software and the Button unlocking the Full potential for some seconds, I do not feel convinced as a customer. Paying for the full power but getting it only for %1 of the time :facepalm:But hey, that’s just me, there is no koolaid good enough.
 

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i’m really not interested in the speeds from 100 to 200 …..much more concerned about low end torque 0 to 60 and quarter mile and cost….. but thanks for the reply
It's not that simple, the car has significantly different power depending on whether you're using launch control or not. Times from zero depend purely on traction as well.

Is your only interest in launching the car at the lights and drag strip? Or are you ever planning to drive it and then use full throttle while driving from a roll?
If you compare times from zero with launch control, then that is not representative of real world usage, unless your real world usage is only launching the car, meaning you stop the car every single time before you floor it.

For real world acceleration in first gear you start off at a 10% improvement from 0 until 25mph, from there it starts growing rapidly and at 50mph you have up to 50% better acceleration depending on traction conditions.

Quartermile times when not using launch control will improve by about a second. If your only usage is launching the car, then you can skip the upgrade on everything above a GTS, because you'd have around 0.3-0.4 seconds improvement in quarter mile when using launch control.
 

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i’m really not interested in the speeds from 100 to 200 …..much more concerned about low end torque 0 to 60 and quarter mile and cost….. but thanks for the reply
The short answer is- faster.

It may be an American thing, but we are used to knowing and comparing 0-60 and 1/4 mile and trap speeds on every car. Of course knowing that the numbers quoted are only in ideal conditions, but at least they’re numbers we can wrap our heads around because we’ve been looking at and comparing them our whole lives. 100-200 km/h doesn’t translate.

Yes we know faster is better. But those numbers are literally foreign to us.

The answer to your question about a 2021 Turbo is that it’ll be faster. Cost and power differences are seen here: https://www.mapev.net/taycan-turbo/

If you look at the torque chart, that directly relates to the acceleration you will feel at every speed. The biggest gains will be felt starting at around 30 mph and above.

You will also be SIGNIFICANTLY faster from any roll as you get full power all the time.
Either way you’ll notice the 120 hp gain over launch control and 175 more than normal.

Maybe .2 faster to 60 and half a second in the 1/4 mile if I had to guess.

Found a gen 1 turbo from their instagram:
Porsche Taycan Taycan tuned: 950 hp through software tuning IMG_4219
 
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Thanks for the replies. I appreciate it. I’m just looking for low end torque is that for most of my driving is within 10 mile DD. My last daily were a lucid, GT and Tesla plaid S.
 

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Thanks for the replies. I appreciate it. I’m just looking for low end torque is that for most of my driving is within 10 mile DD. My last daily were a lucid, GT and Tesla plaid S.
It adds that too. 60 nm peak and by the chart at 60 mph you have around 200 nm more torque than stock.

You will notice that at all speeds.
 

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I visited you web site and watched the video.The product looks very smart and well designed, But help me understand how Porsche would not detect that the car has been drawing a lot more power from the battery than it normally should. Given all the battery issues they're fighting, the last thing I would do is give them ground for voiding the battery warranty.
 


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Seems you get best results from non turbo variants. Might be worth the price if you’re a base car or a 4S. Not so much for the other variants.
 

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I visited you web site and watched the video.The product looks very smart and well designed, But help me understand how Porsche would not detect that the car has been drawing a lot more power from the battery than it normally should. Given all the battery issues they're fighting, the last thing I would do is give them ground for voiding the battery warranty.
1. The car can never draw more power from the battery than the BMS allows. So it is never outside the specification. With or without the tune the battery is operating in spec.
2. The TD1 process is a very specific one on VWAG/PAG - it's a cryptographic exchange performed just before any warranty job is authorized, which will always show good if performed with the original module in the car.
3. VWAG/PAG do not void warranty even with a modified ASG at the moment, but they could decide to start doing that, so it is always safer to switch the controller back to stock.

We have tuned hundreds of cars, there has not been a single customer who had warranty denied due to the tune.
 

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It’s not that they can’t deny a warrranty claim.

I think it’s just that if they did, it would be the same as admitting that a Turbo S has too much power from the factory and will cause damage stock.

That’s pretty hard to argue that giving a 4S the same power as a Turbo S is somehow damaging when they have the same battery.
 

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With the way it works currently, they can't really deny a warranty claim outside of you behaving like a complete asshole and the dealer banning you for that reason.

If the stock controller is on the car during the check it passes, there are no red flags that go up, the warranty gets approved.

Because the modification can not possibly cause any damage in the first place, then at least in the US it would be extremely difficult to deny warranty. Which is why I am guessing they are not doing that even for cars that have been to the dealer with a tuned controller in them at the moment.

However, Porsche's financial situation is deteriorating rapidly, so who knows what they might do. Of course alienating EV customers is probably not their number one priority right now.
 

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I’ve only had my GTS a few months (coming from a MS Plaid) and I have to admit, while I love most every aspect of it relative to the Tesla, it does feel slow and hesitant.

The MapEV quoted gains at 100%SOC are incredible, but I charge mine to 80% each night and return home most days with ~ 40%SOC. I’ve searched a bunch but haven’t seen any tuned data/times on less than 100%SOC. Anything out there I’m missing…or even seat of the pants feedback from people about tuned power degradation at lower SOC? Thanks
 

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I’ve only had my GTS a few months (coming from a MS Plaid) and I have to admit, while I love most every aspect of it relative to the Tesla, it does feel slow and hesitant.

The MapEV quoted gains at 100%SOC are incredible, but I charge mine to 80% each night and return home most days with ~ 40%SOC. I’ve searched a bunch but haven’t seen any tuned data/times on less than 100%SOC. Anything out there I’m missing…or even seat of the pants feedback from people about tuned power degradation at lower SOC? Thanks
I don’t know what to tell you other than “more.”

Significantly more power than stock at all states of charge, especially from a roll vs stock.

If you want more power and miss the power of your old car just do it.

Will it be as fast as your old Plaid? No. But it’ll be a lot closer than before.
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