This is why the Taycan rocks…

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J1.1… still impressive charging .

Not taking as many trips lately but still consistently getting good charge sessions.

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[BjörnfromHamburg]

Yesterday, I drove 500 km with the Taycan, accompanied by a business friend who drives electric, too. (VW ID3 and Volvo)
He was literally enthusiastic, seeing the meter rush up to 243 kW in seconds, topping at 263 and maintaining the plateau until 40%.
Despite all the Chinese rumors about their cars charging up to a gazillion kW, the Taycan still is a charging monster out there.
J1.1 and J1.2 even more.

 

[RAHRCR]

After 3.5 years of ownership, I have only done high speed charging once. It's impressive.....I would not want to be sitting in a car that is taking in much more current than that.

 

[JC-Maverick]

I have a Tesla X Plaid..... love the car, hate the charging time compared to the Taycan.

 

[BjörnfromHamburg]

We used to travel with 2 cars together:
Taycan and Model Y Performance.
Range-wise we were on same % almost all the time.
Charging-wise, I always waited 10-20 minutes for the Model Y.

 

[SergeyIndy]

Looks like you are new. This is good but not impressive by any means. J1.1 can do over 270kW paper rating, but as I pointed on other threads, there is absolutely zero benefit in blasting your car with that much current, boiling your battery to 130F+, risking your radiator fans, and not getting from 10% to 80% any faster when using battery friendly mode with slower peak but steady 150kW. Sounds counterintuitive but true. I tried this once with peaking at 293kW but never again. I Always use Battery Friendly mode when charging at a public DC charger.

Anyone chasing these high speeds, come back, and let me know when your radiator fans fail, your OBC is cooked, or you need your battery modules replaced. All very weak components as we all know. They had to make these claims and features for marketing purposes to say range is low we know but you can charge fast, but in the real world that is not worth the risk.

 

[BjörnfromHamburg]

Well, not particularly "new" by any means. Neither in age, nor in electric driving or even here in this forum.
I will give your advice a try and record times though!

As far as I know, the on-board charger is passed-by with DC charging, the fans roar now and than, but not charging DC that often, that it should excessevily wear the fans but hey:
I like to use my Taycan with the specs, it was built with.
So in Germany, on a regular basis I hit the 260 + km/h, and that in a wink of time.
And charging from 10-80 % is absolutely possible in 21-22 minutes.
I enjoy that 🫣

 

[AutoX]

I'm So jealous. I don't know what's up with my car, but I can never get >65kWh on 30mins of charging. I've used multiple EA stations. Sometimes at 3 in the AM when I'm the only one there. Doesn't matter if I start when my SOC is <10% or 30%. Sometimes it will start fast (265kw), but then slow down drastically, other times with will charge at a moderate rate (170kw), but hold longer. Either way I always end up around 55kWH to 62kWh. Even when precondition. The battery temp also usually stays under 109F.

 

[F1Ruaraidh]

J1.1… still impressive charging .

Not taking as many trips lately but still consistently getting good charge sessions.

Charging speed is only average because you have to take into account how quickly it empties it again due to dreadful driving efficiency.

My CT TS only manages 500Wh/mile driving like Miss Daisy when under the same conditions, my 8yo Model S will be in the low to mid 300s.

 

[SergeyIndy]

I'm So jealous. I don't know what's up with my car, but I can never get >65kWh on 30mins of charging. I've used multiple EA stations. Sometimes at 3 in the AM when I'm the only one there. Doesn't matter if I start when my SOC is <10% or 30%. Sometimes it will start fast (265kw), but then slow down drastically, other times with will charge at a moderate rate (170kw), but hold longer. Either way I always end up around 55kWH to 62kWh. Even when precondition. The battery temp also usually stays under 109F.

This to me indicates that your battery friendly option might be turned on. Since without it being on, the battery reaches 130F+ like it is nothing.

 

[SergeyIndy]

Well, not particularly "new" by any means. Neither in age, nor in electric driving or even here in this forum.
I will give your advice a try and record times though!

As far as I know, the on-board charger is passed-by with DC charging, the fans roar now and than, but not charging DC that often, that it should excessevily wear the fans but hey:
I like to use my Taycan with the specs, it was built with.
So in Germany, on a regular basis I hit the 260 + km/h, and that in a wink of time.
And charging from 10-80 % is absolutely possible in 21-22 minutes.
I enjoy that 🫣

Try it out and measure both with Friendly off vs. On. However, this is the real side by side test. I stand by my point, it is not worth the risk, case closed for me.

 

[AutoX]

This to me indicates that your battery friendly option might be turned on. Since without it being on, the battery reaches 130F+ like it is nothing.

I have done it both ways. When off, it will charge at 250 but only for a short time, maybe 10%. When turn on, it will max out at 200. But realistically 150. What’s funny is that no matter my starting state of charge it usually finish at 85% after 30mins.

 

[BjörnfromHamburg]

I will give it a try!
10-80 far under 30 min for me, though.

 

[BjörnfromHamburg]

Ok, according to Bjørn's test, the full charge (95-100%) will need equal time.
It's really interesting, that eco-charging hold much better/higher kW above 80%.

But reaching 80% with fast-charging, eco-charging has only reached 66%.

As I stop charging around 80% most of the time, it would be significantly faster with full speed charging.

When the stop-over will be at least 30 min., there is indeed no need for fast-charging and eco-charging is as good.

 

[SergeyIndy]

Ok, according to Bjørn's test, the full charge (95-100%) will need equal time.
It's really interesting, that eco-charging hold much better/higher kW above 80%.

But reaching 80% with fast-charging, eco-charging has only reached 66%.

As I stop charging around 80% most of the time, it would be significantly faster with full speed charging.

When the stop-over will be at least 30 min., there is indeed no need for fast-charging and eco-charging is as good.

Significantly fast by how much, 5 minutes? at 20 min mark Friendly is at 66% and non Friendly at 80%, and that margin is even smaller if you start at higher than 10% SoC. For 5 minutes, is it worth cooking the battery and other components? Then as you start driving with baked 130F+ battery, where do you think the energy will be going fast, to cooling it, so the 5 min advantage will evaporate in lost SoC faster than you know it since all systems will be in aggressive cooling mode.

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