Uh Oh, Worrying now if 4S order should be GTS

[W1NGE]

I'm basically where you were 6 months (hopefully not more) ago. I just put in for my allocation last week and I've been going back and forth. The way I saw it was this:
- I wanted AWD, the 4s has it
- I have kids and a wife and won't be tracking a lot - the increase in capability doesn't benefit me 98% of the time
- I felt more comfortable getting things like the PTV+ and PDCC and keeping my OTD price closer to my original budget

Right now I feel great about it... I heard someone say it's a great car regardless, and I think that line hols. WRT to resale value, I don't normally put much into that. Most Porsche owners I know (biased sample) have had their cars for over a decade and are still going strong and I'd really like to join that group. If I was SUPER worried about trim, I'd go GTS and then, a few weeks later, upgrade to Turbo! lol. I think I'm happy planting my flag on the 4S.

That being said, come back to me when my freeze date passes! Congrats!

PDCC and not really tracking - no need for the option IMHO as it is unlikely you'll experience the benefits.

If you do track then std brakes aren't ideal.

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[mallupappi]

From my understanding it would be something more felt than the difference in suspension and power than going from S to GTS... regardless, even if not, the original logic still holds.

The best way I could describe the PDCC VS normal was that the car felt like it was on rails when turning.

 

[Andy0565]

Leather is a £360 price difference or thereabouts - hardly a deal breaker.

Sorry, I should have put e.g. not i.e. The Race-tex vs leather was just an example. My point was that with a GTS, Porsche pre-define a very sporty set-up, whatever the model. It’s regarded as the ‘sweet spot’ for the purist and I get it, I’ve driven one. It’s a fantastic option and good value but, by no means, is it what everyone is looking for.

So my point remains. If a GTS is what you’re looking for, go for it but, if not, ordering one and making a whole load of changes seems pointless (to me at least)

 

[W1NGE]

From my understanding it would be something more felt than the difference in suspension and power than going from S to GTS... regardless, even if not, the original logic still holds.

The best way I could describe the PDCC VS normal was that the car felt like it was on rails when turning.

In 95% of the use cases you will be blissfully unaware of the presence of PDCC. The point here is that the Taycan starts from an excellent position (it's a Porsche and it's a sports sedan in the true sense). This is enhanced as you work your way through the range but on the basis that PDCC remains an option through Turbo S suggests it is a pureist / almost unnecessary addition.

RAS at a minimum, PTV is a nice to have and PDCC if you must have everything.

Check the classifieds and see how many variants have the option.

At the end of the day however, you pay your money and make your choice.

 

[mystermykee]

In 95% of the use cases you will be blissfully unaware of the presence of PDCC. The point here is that the Taycan starts from an excellent position (it's a Porsche and it's a sports sedan in the true sense). This is enhanced as you work your way through the range but on the basis that PDCC remains an option through Turbo S suggests it is a pureist / almost unnecessary addition.

RAS at a minimum, PTV is a nice to have and PDCC if you must have everything.

Check the classifieds and see how many variants have the option.

At the end of the day however, you pay your money and make your choice.

Agree with this. For majority of daily driving, all Taycan trims mostly feel the same. Biggest differentiators are RAS, PDCC and PTV+. I have a 4S+, and the only times I regret not getting a Turbo is when I can't get in front of something quickly enough...ha

 

[mutanthands]

One thing to consider is value retention if / when you come to sell or trade in the future.
The 4S is an excellent car, but you're going to take a bloodbath on all those options.
A GTS will keep more value as a good number of options are standard, so it'll be (technically) lesser specced, and therefore less of a hit.
Just something to also consider.

 

[BMonte13]

That's a real Porsche thing to do, before you know it, you'll be shopping Turbo S

When I bought my RWD (which was/is also my first Porsche) the SA told me that I’d be back in a year or 2 for an upgrade. “Is that so?” I said. I’m sticking to my RWD for at least 5 years 99% because a) I love it and 1% because b) out of spite.

 

[RAHRCR]

So this morning I email my SA to "Freeze it like a Frozen Berry!" And less than 2 hours later I suddenly realize that a GTS with my options is only $8k more, if I drop the Tech package, keep ACC and worry about Innodrive and ALK later. And even if I keep the package and Inno/ALK it's still under $10k more. I realize this could totally change my allocation slot and production timeline, but if it was doable, would upgrading to GTS be the right move?? My options on the 4S are about 37% of base, and with the GTS it's closer to 15%.

Aaahhh!! Now I'm stressed out.

If you have really nice roads where you live go GTS. Otherwise 4S is the better car to live with.

 

[Redhot2474]

If you have really nice roads where you live go GTS. Otherwise 4S is the better car to live with.

Yea. The exhaust is so loud …

 

[RAHRCR]

Yea. The exhaust is so loud …

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[tomtom901]

When I bought my RWD (which was/is also my first Porsche) the SA told me that I’d be back in a year or 2 for an upgrade. “Is that so?” I said. I’m sticking to my RWD for at least 5 years 99% because a) I love it and 1% because b) out of spite.

I love mine as well (first Porsche) but could see myself upgrading if the facelift is significant.

 

[AGDunc]

I looked at dropping from the Turbo to the GTS when it first came out because I wanted an ST rather than CT. But then they released a Turbo ST so that’s what I got (and it’s great). What I found with the GTS was that I had to make loads of changes to have it how I wanted it and it didn’t make sense.

I think, if you look at the way the GTS is spec’d and think ‘yep, that’s the way I want it’ then order one. But if, on the other hand, you start changing loads of stuff, i.e. leather for Race-tex , you’re better off, starting with a 4S and adding what you want.

Swapping to leather is a no cost option in the UK. I did it on my GTS as RaceTex isn’t practical for me (4 year old and dogs).

 

[f1eng]

In the UK the GTS has the higest incremental price increase over the lower model for the smallest incremental power increase.
That presumably means the bulk of the difference in price is cosmetic items, some of which are unique to the GTS. Fine if you were going to pay extra for them on a 4S.
The more sporty suspension settings and louder faux sound may be desirable to some people too, but they are zero cost to manufacture.

When I did the comparison the GTS wasn't worth it for my requirements. I did like the exterior styling details though, particularly the satin finish wheels without shiny bits

 

[W1NGE]

In the UK the GTS has the higest incremental price increase over the lower model for the smallest incremental power increase.
That presumably means the bulk of the difference in price is cosmetic items, some of which are unique to the GTS. Fine if you were going to pay extra for them on a 4S.
The more sporty suspension settings and louder faux sound may be desirable to some people too, but they are zero cost to manufacture.

When I did the comparison the GTS wasn't worth it for my requirements. I did like the exterior styling details though, particularly the satin finish wheels without shiny bits

The biggest additions are the full Sports Design package (I'd rather not have it) and PTV+ thereby boosting the price. It also has the same motors as the Turbo which may open the door to more power in the future (doubtful).

 

[TaycanHero]

On my PEC - the pro driver who took me around the track for one lap and really did make me realise how "basic" I am at driving - explained upgraded brakes are cosmetic and PDCC is not really worth it.

For someone who drives the Taycan regularly around the track, that's good enough for me to not spec either where I will only be driving the car on the road.

If money is no option then option everything.

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