Complex Charging software profiles.

[Manmit]

Charging should be a simple matter.
The current software is very complicated and does not even work properly.
My Tesla Model S was the epitome of simplicity in charging software.
Can Porsche make it simple for the common man: All we need is:
Adjustable Max charge tab.
Charging on / off

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[Jhenson29]

Isn’t that how it works if you use a profile by itself with optimized charging?

 

[DerekS]

Charging should be a simple matter.
The current software is very complicated and does not even work properly.
My Tesla Model S was the epitome of simplicity in charging software.
Can Porsche make it simple for the common man: All we need is:
Adjustable Max charge tab.
Charging on / off

I agree that this has been needlessly overcomplicated.

To get where you were on Tesla (daily charging to 85%):

In profiles:

- Set the general profile to 25% min
- If you have time of use discounts, enter that preferred time
- Don't bother with location-specific profiles, the GPS location drifts too much to make this useful.

In timers:

- Create a timer for early morning (6am or whatever is earliest time of use for you)
- Set it to every day
- Set max to 85%

Then when you want 100% for a trip, just turn on the "direct charging" switch which ignores all this timer/profile nonsense and charges immediately to 100%.

 

[W1NGE]

Charging should be a simple matter.
The current software is very complicated and does not even work properly.
My Tesla Model S was the epitome of simplicity in charging software.
Can Porsche make it simple for the common man: All we need is:
Adjustable Max charge tab.
Charging on / off

Small learning curve and simple to use IMHO.

 

[02bluesuperroo]

I agree that this has been needlessly overcomplicated.

To get where you were on Tesla (daily charging to 85%):

In profiles:

- Set the general profile to 25% min
- If you have time of use discounts, that that preferred time
- Don't bother with location-specific profiles, the GPS location drifts too much to make this useful.

In timers:

- Create a timer for early morning (6am or whatever is earliest time of use for you)
- Set it to every day
- Set max to 85%

Then when you want 100% for a trip, just turn on the "direct charging" switch which ignores all this timer/profile nonsense and charges immediately to 100%.

Just out of curiosity, assuming no time of use discounts, what is the benefit of only charging immediately to only 25% and then not charge the rest until whenever necessary for it to finish in the morning.

I just set my minimum on the general profile to 80% and plug in. I don’t use a timer at all.

 

[DerekS]

Just out of curiosity, assuming no time of use discounts, what is the benefit of only charging immediately to only 25% and then not charge the rest until whenever necessary for it to finish in the morning.

I just set my minimum on the general profile to 80% and plug in. I don’t use a timer at all.

The thing is, the minimum ignores time of use profiles - it is regarded as an "emergency level" that will be filled immediately.

But you're right; if you don't have an off-peak discount, you might as well just change the minimum on the profile to 80-85% and call it done with no timers at all.

 

[Jhenson29]

Just out of curiosity, assuming no time of use discounts, what is the benefit of only charging immediately to only 25% and then not charge the rest until whenever necessary for it to finish in the morning.

The only reason for this that I can think of is to not sit at a higher charge for longer than needed. E.g. if you have the target at 100% with a timer, it won’t be at 100% for long before you use the car.

That’s the only time I use a timer.

 

[madeyong]

The only reason for this that I can think of is to not sit at a higher charge for longer than needed. E.g. if you have the target at 100% with a timer, it won’t be at 100% for long before you use the car.

That’s the only time I use a timer.

I somewhat follow this. I have no real back up for saying this is beneficial but, in the warmer months, I just set the general profile on optimized for 80% (I have no time of use discounts) and plug in at night when I drop below 50%. In winter months, however, I turn off the profile and just use a timer (7:30 M-F and 9:30 Sa-Su). This way, if I arrive home at night with a low SOC, it doesn’t charge and sit (even at 80%) all night in a very cold garage. Instead, it will start the charging session closer to the set time on the timer and I feel like I optimize things by warming up the battery closer to when I leave rather than doing a cold start. Not sure if it’s a meaningful strategy at the end of the day (and sometimes I don’t leave until hours after the timer, which defeats my stated purpose) but I sleep better thinking I’m doing what I can to optimize battery life long term in winter.

 

[Manmit]

Cannot stop charging in the app unless I go to the garage and physically disconnect.....How inconvenient is that

 

[Klepper]

The only reason for this that I can think of is to not sit at a higher charge for longer than needed. E.g. if you have the target at 100% with a timer, it won’t be at 100% for long before you use the car.

That’s the only time I use a timer.

Haha, I am the exact opposite. I don't have a time of use plan, so I see no use for the profile. I ONLY use a timer. I set it for 80% at 6:00am everyday and I am done.

(Note: I have seen it referenced elsewhere in a thread, but even without a profile, the car automatically charges up to 25% if you plug in below that)

 

[Jhenson29]

Haha, I am the exact opposite. I don't have a time of use plan, so I see no use for the profile. I ONLY use a timer. I set it for 80% at 6:00am everyday and I am done.

That’s not really the exact opposite. If you don’t have a time of use, a profile would make more sense because then it would start charging to your target immediately (no reason to wait to charge if you don’t have to). You would set the profile to optimized instead of preferred times.

But whatever works for you is fine.

(Note: I have seen it referenced elsewhere in a thread, but even without a profile, the car automatically charges up to 25% if you plug in below that)

Yes, the car always charges to at least 25% in all cases. No way around that.

 

[Perry]

I feel that many people are overthinking how Profiles and Timers work. Set a profile to whatever charge level you want for day to day use and the car will charge to that level when you plug it in.

Then if you‘re going to do a trip where you want to start with a full charge or just want the car to have a comfortable temperature when you leave for work or whatever, then create a timer and the car will be ready by the set time when you are going to leave.

It’s effectively the same concept as charge level and departure schedule on a Tesla.

 

[Klepper]

That’s not really the exact opposite. If you don’t have a time of use, a profile would make more sense because then it would start charging to your target immediately (no reason to wait to charge if you don’t have to). You would set the profile to optimized instead of preferred times.

But whatever works for you is fine.



Yes, the car always charges to at least 25% in all cases. No way around that.

I primarily only use a timer and not a profile. It sounds like you primarily only use a profile and not a timer. That is what I meant by exact opposite.

I use a timer, even though I don’t have a time of use rate plan because 1) as mentioned, I don’t want the car to sit at a higher state of charge any longer than necessary, and 2) I have another load in my garage (well pump) that dosesn’t run during the night, so that’s when I charge the Taycan to avoid tripping a breaker.

 

[Jhenson29]

I primarily only use a timer and not a profile. It sounds like you primarily only use a profile and not a timer. That is what I meant by exact opposite.

I see. My mistake. ?

 

[Klepper]

I see. My mistake. ?

Cheers!

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