Goodbye Taycan, hello 2025 Taycan Turbo S Cross Turismo

[wafergold]

13. Regen hasn't turned on yet, so my efficiency isn't great, but the guessometer is currently giving me 447 km at 86% or equivalent 520 km at 100% (~323 miles).



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Hello Daniel
I have my new 4S ST since 4 days. My range is 410Km @100% . Don't drive really fast or aggressive with it yet. Same way of driving with my old Tesla S of 7 years was 450km easily.
Regeneration seems not on yet to ( i have 440Km ) .

After how much KM drive you had the 520Km range?
And what about the range now after regeneration is on ?

Thanks

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[Perry]

Some updates after having had some experience with the car:

1. Speed bumps are dead as a concept if systems like Active Ride would ever become common. While you definitely feel the bumps, it doesn't matter whatsoever what speed you go over them at. The car couldn't care less about such nuisance.

2. CarPlay consistently connects more or less instantly when you get into the car. I didn't dare to mention it before since that could also happen with the old Taycan when it felt for it, but other days it could take quite some time for it to connect.

I have however instead had a case when it didn't connect at all because it didn't think it was a certified CarPlay device, which is something I haven't seen before.

3. Similarly, it appears to have a more stable CarPlay integration with the app. Again, it's still a bit early to tell, but with my old Taycan it would occasionally lose connection to the app (solved by restarting the app), as well as Apple Maps losing access to the battery data every now and then. This hasn't happened a single time yet with the new Taycan.

4. I received an OTA update to the infotainment system (no change notes, of course) and now it's possible to change the map settings in the dash like before.

5. For some reason, they have removed the little elastic nets in the boot that could be used for storage. Weird.

6. Regen kicked in at almost exactly 300 km. The guessometer decreased a fair bit during that period, going from about 500 km to 440 km at 100% in Normal. Interestingly, the range when setting a route is still about the same as before (about 515 km), so it seems to separate everyday driving from highway driving. The efficiency has naturally gone up quite a bit since regen started, going on average from about 30 kWh/100km to 21.5 kWh/100km.

I did an hour long highway drive with my family today (110-120 km/h), which ended up with an efficiency of 19.5kWh/100km in Normal. Someone should probably do some more scientific testing of this, but in essence I think it looks like one can expect something like 450-500 km of highway range in Normal mode. Probably a bit less if you drive more spirited and maybe a bit more with better weather and less passengers.

7. I've already gotten a stone chip in the windscreen. Screw me for apparently being a literal rock magnet. Getting the window replaced on Monday.

8. After installing an update to the iOS app, it seems like Profiles and Timers are entirely gone as a concept. Like in the car, the app now just shows a slider where I can set the desired charge level.

Instead, it seems like both Timers and Profiles have been combined into Departures. There is now a new Departure tab where I can set the time when I which to depart, but no way to set a charge level. The optimised charging setting seems to however be tied to the Departure settings. Each Departure "profile" can be individually turned on or off, as well as to automatically turn on at a certain location.

Lastly, we had about 9 minutes of non-depressing weather here in these parts of Sweden yesterday so I managed to snap a few quick photos that weren't horrendous. Everything in a nice thin coat of dirt and dead bugs that I didn't have time to wash off.

 

[Boss Hogg]

thanks for the update, really looking forward to experiencing the speed bump crushing active ride!

How are you finding the push-to-pass system, does it make a significant difference, do you use it much or is it a gimmick?

 

[Perry]

thanks for the update, really looking forward to experiencing the speed bump crushing active ride!

How are you finding the push-to-pass system, does it make a significant difference, do you use it much or is it a gimmick?

Does it make a significant difference? Absolutely. Is it a gimmick? Also yes.

Even the previous Turbo S had way more performance than anyone would reasonably need on public roads. The new Taycan is even faster and with P2P even more so.

It’s fun to use when getting onto the highway or similar, but the notion of using it to actually pass other vehicles seems absolutely insane to me.

 

[Mr.Smith]

What differences do you notice in the new 2 chamber suspension compared to the previous generation suspension?
Its the new suspension for the luxury VAG segment, including the Panamera, E-Tron GT, Bentley Continental

Also I believe Active Ride is tuned for Sport+ in the Turbo GT, but all other Taycan variants are tuned for normal mode.
Do you see how Active Ride could be in a benefit in the sporty setting?

 

[chun]

Some updates after having had some experience with the car:

1. Speed bumps are dead as a concept if systems like Active Ride would ever become common. While you definitely feel the bumps, it doesn't matter whatsoever what speed you go over them at. The car couldn't care less about such nuisance.

2. CarPlay consistently connects more or less instantly when you get into the car. I didn't dare to mention it before since that could also happen with the old Taycan when it felt for it, but other days it could take quite some time for it to connect.

I have however instead had a case when it didn't connect at all because it didn't think it was a certified CarPlay device, which is something I haven't seen before.

3. Similarly, it appears to have a more stable CarPlay integration with the app. Again, it's still a bit early to tell, but with my old Taycan it would occasionally lose connection to the app (solved by restarting the app), as well as Apple Maps losing access to the battery data every now and then. This hasn't happened a single time yet with the new Taycan.

4. I received an OTA update to the infotainment system (no change notes, of course) and now it's possible to change the map settings in the dash like before.

5. For some reason, they have removed the little elastic nets in the boot that could be used for storage. Weird.

6. Regen kicked in at almost exactly 300 km. The guessometer decreased a fair bit during that period, going from about 500 km to 440 km at 100% in Normal. Interestingly, the range when setting a route is still about the same as before (about 515 km), so it seems to separate everyday driving from highway driving. The efficiency has naturally gone up quite a bit since regen started, going on average from about 30 kWh/100km to 21.5 kWh/100km.

I did an hour long highway drive with my family today (110-120 km/h), which ended up with an efficiency of 19.5kWh/100km in Normal. Someone should probably do some more scientific testing of this, but in essence I think it looks like one can expect something like 450-500 km of highway range in Normal mode. Probably a bit less if you drive more spirited and maybe a bit more with better weather and less passengers.

7. I've already gotten a stone chip in the windscreen. Screw me for apparently being a literal rock magnet. Getting the window replaced on Monday.

8. After installing an update to the iOS app, it seems like Profiles and Timers are entirely gone as a concept. Like in the car, the app now just shows a slider where I can set the desired charge level.

Instead, it seems like both Timers and Profiles have been combined into Departures. There is now a new Departure tab where I can set the time when I which to depart, but no way to set a charge level. The optimised charging setting seems to however be tied to the Departure settings. Each Departure "profile" can be individually turned on or off, as well as to automatically turn on at a certain location.

Lastly, we had about 9 minutes of non-depressing weather here in these parts of Sweden yesterday so I managed to snap a few quick photos that weren't horrendous. Everything in a nice thin coat of dirt and dead bugs that I didn't have time to wash off.

I love your black door handles, was thinking of retrofitting mine.

Have you used innodrive at all? Is it still a pain in the ass to set up? Is it any better?

 

[Perry]

I love your black door handles, was thinking of retrofitting mine.

Have you used innodrive at all? Is it still a pain in the ass to set up? Is it any better?

I think I mentioned it in my original post. It’s much better than the old version. The visualisation is one thing, but more importantly it’s much more confident and handles curves much better. Part of it might come from the fact that it will fight you a bit more than the old system that would give up at even the slightest amount of resistance.

Don’t expect any wonders, though. It’s still far off the more advanced systems that some other brands offer. I do however use it almost constantly in traffic, so it does its job.

The only real setup I’ve done is switching the traffic sign speed change from automatic to require confirmation.

 

[Fun TC Driving]

Great write up! Love your Neptune Blue and as to your wheels, they alone might tempt me to get a set on a new Taycan.

 

[bluesky]

Does it make a significant difference? Absolutely. Is it a gimmick? Also yes.

Even the previous Turbo S had way more performance than anyone would reasonably need on public roads. The new Taycan is even faster and with P2P even more so.

It’s fun to use when getting onto the highway or similar, but the notion of using it to actually pass other vehicles seems absolutely insane to me.

“Push-to-pass” is just a marketting term because it refers to such a named system in a race car. Obviously, what you do after you push the button is up to you and doesn’t have to be limited strictly to “passing”

it is however, a warranty covered non-LC power boost, which may provide some folks with some extra power along with peace of mind over the third-party ASG tuning services.

I seem to recall that a video showed that the sport sound gets a little more menacing during the active P2P period when sport sound is enabled.

Nice olea/Atacama (?) interior! ?

 

[Perry]

“Push-to-pass” is just a marketting term because it refers to such a named system in a race car. Obviously, what you do after you push the button is up to you and doesn’t have to be limited strictly to “passing”

it is however, a warranty covered non-LC power boost, which may provide some folks with some extra power along with peace of mind over the third-party ASG tuning services.

I seem to recall that a video showed that the sport sound gets a little more menacing during the active P2P period when sport sound is enabled.

Nice olea/Atacama (?) interior! ?

Regarding the sport sound, that’s actually interesting because when I tested a 4S, it did pipe some additional sports sound into the cabin when P2P was active. However, I haven’t noticed the same with my Turbo S.

Maybe they thought the performance was exciting enough, or I’ve managed to disable it somehow.

Another completely different thing I just noticed: The side mirrors fold when the car is locked remotely. They also fold when the car auto locks after a few minutes without a key. This is something that always bothered me, so nice to see that they’ve changed that

 

[tigerbalm]

5. For some reason, they have removed the little elastic nets in the boot that could be used for storage. Weird.

They come if you order the "no cost" storage package. Any chance you left it off the specification?

 

[tigerbalm]

Does it make a significant difference? Absolutely. Is it a gimmick? Also yes.

Even the previous Turbo S had way more performance than anyone would reasonably need on public roads. The new Taycan is even faster and with P2P even more so.

It’s fun to use when getting onto the highway or similar, but the notion of using it to actually pass other vehicles seems absolutely insane to me.

They should rename it: Push-to-lose-license.

 

[tigerbalm]

I did an hour long highway drive with my family today (110-120 km/h), which ended up with an efficiency of 19.5kWh/100km in Normal.

That's a genuine efficiency improvement for sure. I find the equivalent in my Gen 1 Turbo S is around 23.5 kWh/100km if on motorway – dropping to 21.5 kWh/100km if doing spirited driving on twisty Irish roads with plenty of re-gen.

Can you remember your Gen 1 rate on your Turbo S?

That is the first proper picture I've seen of next generation Turbo S in Neptune Blue. Front end is defo growing on me.

Also just realised they've remove "Taycan" from the rear badge.

Yours:

Mine:

 

[Perry]

That's a genuine efficiency improvement for sure. I find the equivalent in my Gen 1 Turbo S is around 23.5 kWh/100km if on motorway – dropping to 21.5 kWh/100km if doing spirited driving on twisty Irish roads with plenty of re-gen.

Can you remember your Gen 1 rate on your Turbo S?



That is the first proper picture I've seen of next generation Turbo S in Neptune Blue. Front end is defo growing on me.

Also just realised they've remove "Taycan" from the rear badge.

Yours:

Mine:

My old Taycan ended up with an average consumption of 23.6 kWh/100km. Typically I would get around 23-25 kWh/100km on non-spirited highway driving, depending on the weather and season.

 

[Scandinavian]

My old Taycan ended up with an average consumption of 23.6 kWh/100km. Typically I would get around 23-25 kWh/100km on non-spirited highway driving, depending on the weather and season.

That is great improvement! More power etc in the new model and yet such an improvement!

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