60-130 on Turbo S from a Roll? Installing Redshift ECU Clone Today

[Lefty8235]

Hi all. I brought my car in to get the new ECU installed with the RedShift tune today. I am getting the stage 3 including the drivability adaptation and the limiter removal. I opted to not do the regen piece.

Attached is a Dragy report showing stock times with all season tires at 42-45 PSI and SOC at 90%.

One of the things I forgot to do, however, was measure 60-130 while on a highway roll to get those times exclusively of launch control. With the overboost HP on the TTS being similar to the upgrade (full time) from Redshift, I should have measured the strength while already at highway speed using the base HP as the starting point. Anyone done this already to give me a baseline?

My key figures in the screenshot below are:

• 0-60 - 2.61s
• 60-130 - 7.19s (got 7.16 on another run).
• 1/4 mile - 10.33s at 133.22 MPH

Curious what 60-130 is when jumping on it while already cruising.

Thanks!

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[Paint_To_Sample]

We discussed this in another Redshift thread…

@ElectricV8Biturbo has measured 6-130 on his Turbo S without LC in the “high 8 seconds range”

 

[Paint_To_Sample]

What year is your TS? Your trap speed of 133 is pretty impressive as I believe most people are seeing sub-130

 

[Lefty8235]

What year is your TS? Your trap speed of 133 is pretty impressive as I believe most people are seeing sub-130

2024. I'm certain I bought one of the last ones before the model refresh - because I'm gullible that way.

 

[Lefty8235]

We discussed this in another Redshift thread…

@ElectricV8Biturbo has measured 6-130 on his Turbo S without LC in the “high 8 seconds range”

Interesting. So if I've gotten 7.16 in launch and others were high 8's on a roll then is it a fair expectation that I'll stay at low 7s, but will also see those figures from a rolling start?

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

My 60-130 times without launch control was in the very low 9s mostly (I did get a couple of very high 8s with SOC near 96%).
I would expect with your car to be in the mid to high 8s since the batteries are being pushed harder without launch control.
I believe your newer batteries are being pushed more via software than the older models. Biggest difference I'm seeing is that your car is able to do these times with battery SOC at 70%, mine would.be significantly slower at that SOC.

My 60-130 with launch control was 7.4-7.5.
Seems you are running 0.3-0.4 seconds faster than my 2021 with launch control

 

[Lefty8235]

My 60-130 times without launch control was in the very low 9s mostly (I did get a couple of very high 8s with SOC near 96%).
I would expect with your car to be in the mid to high 8s since the batteries are being pushed harder without launch control.
I believe your newer batteries are being pushed more via software than the older models. Biggest difference I'm seeing is that your car is able to do these times with battery SOC at 70%, mine would.be significantly slower at that SOC.

My 60-130 with launch control was 7.4-7.5.
Seems you are running 0.3-0.4 seconds faster than my 2021 with launch control

So I took it out at 65-70% the other day and only got 10.6x 1/4 so I'm second guessing whether or not I was correct when I told you it was around 70% SOC in that initial run I posted about. At 95% SOC I was still at the same 10.33-10.36 I had originally gotten.

My best 60-130 is 7.16 from launch. Unfortunately I didn't remember to do it from a roll, which sucks.

I'll get "after" times this weekend when traffic is down early in the AM, but I drove the car around a little last night after picking it up post tune and WOW. Roads were a little wet and jumping around on the highway in some moderate traffic I felt like I could have spun out if I pushed it hard enough. Absolutely seems significantly stronger on throttle response.

The way I'd describe it is I could feel my cheeks pulling back when jumping on it already at 50mph+. Pre-tune I only ever felt that on launch.

There are some guys out there driving around in what they think are fast cars who I'd likely have crushed anyway on the highway. Now they're going to be like, "WTF was that?" LOL

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

So I took it out at 65-70% the other day and only got 10.6x 1/4 so I'm second guessing whether or not I was correct when I told you it was around 70% SOC in that initial run I posted about. At 95% SOC I was still at the same 10.33-10.36 I had originally gotten.

My best 60-130 is 7.16 from launch. Unfortunately I didn't remember to do it from a roll, which sucks.

I'll get "after" times this weekend when traffic is down early in the AM, but I drove the car around a little last night after picking it up post tune and WOW. Roads were a little wet and jumping around on the highway in some moderate traffic I felt like I could have spun out if I pushed it hard enough. Absolutely seems significantly stronger on throttle response.

The way I'd describe it is I could feel my cheeks pulling back when jumping on it already at 50mph+. Pre-tune I only ever felt that on launch.

There are some guys out there driving around in what they think are fast cars who I'd likely have crushed anyway on the highway. Now they're going to be like, "WTF was that?" LOL

What was your trap speed with 95% SOC pre tune?

About your post tune times......prepare to be disappointed if you're looking for faster.
I still feel like the tune is worth it for giving me power all the time, however, due to traction limitations after the tune, it's hard to extract more performance out of it.

I still haven't done what I did to get my 10.3 pre tune times (lowered tire pressures, driving like a granny with no ac to the spot where I can make runs to keep my SOC up, etc etc), so there might be more to get out of it when I do.
But driving without prep, all I can do is duplicate my pre tune times anywhere, easily.

I drove MrSmiths car a couple of weeks or so ago and it does feel like my car has a bit more top end pull than his (same tune). I drove his car in Cali in the morning and mine in TX in the evening on the same day.
Meaning I should be getting more trap speeds than him. But I'm not, I'm doing a similar trapspeed as him.
However Mario did warn me that traction control will intervene more with the tune and will result in less than expected times. Need better tires is what I'm seeing. MrSmiths car with Pilot4S' feel world's better than mine off the line and from a slow roll where traction is concerned.
I have all season stock tires

 

[Lefty8235]

My top trap speed for the 1/4 is 133.28 pre-tune. That's the run where I got 7.16 60-130. It was 2.65 0-60 and 10.36 1/4.

I ran that with the AC and center screen off. I'm 5 miles from the location so that's the extent of warmup the car had on local roads. Tires are all seasons as well, at 42-46 PSI give or take.

As far as improvement expectations go, I don't expect much on those numbers. I expect the 60-130 from a roll to be much stronger so we'll see what those numbers are, but I didn't get before numbers so I'll just have to compare to what others have been reporting.

 

[Loe]

Maybe off-topic, when timing from a rolling race, do you all start closer to 40mph (or so), so that 1st gear is engaged? Or is it better to start at 55mph in 2nd gear?

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

Maybe off-topic, when timing from a rolling race, do you all start closer to 40mph (or so), so that 1st gear is engaged? Or is it better to start at 55mph in 2nd gear?

Hmm very good question....
I would guess starting a little higher to eliminate gear shift would be better, lower motor speed, less heat to start the race

 

[Lefty8235]

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@ElectricV8Biturbo

see below. 7.51 60-130 from a roll.

Had a lane this morning on Hwy and jumped on it. 72° out. Car at 95% charge in sport plus mode. Rolling 60-130 post tune from about 50 mph. Will get more stats this weekend.

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

@Lefty8235
You have gotten slower than with launch control. No worries, I noticed that too when I first got the tune.

Drive till your car is below 20% charge.
Leave at that charge level for at least 12 hours,
Recharge to 100%.
Make some runs and smile big as you get faster with a lot more wheelspin

 

[Mr.Smith]

Maybe off-topic, when timing from a rolling race, do you all start closer to 40mph (or so), so that 1st gear is engaged? Or is it better to start at 55mph in 2nd gear?

It would be interesting to do a roll at 30,40, 50.
If you go over 57 it upshifts to 2nd gear, but won't downshift to first until 32mph. So it would good data to try it in different gears to see how it affects times

 

[Loe]

I'd try it, but my stock car 60-130mph is a lifetime compared to you all

I think in Dragy you can configure different data points, I could try 60-100mph and experiment 1st vs 2nd gear starts.

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