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This is the best guessometer mileage I have gotten in summer months.
I am seeing 260 mile range this very cold winter in Upstate NY
Pretty impressive. What MY and Trim you have?
I have never seen more than 285 miles reported by the car at 100% SoC on mine.
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This is what I am getting recently
Pretty impressive. What MY and Trim you have?
I have never seen more than 285 miles reported by the car at 100% SoC on mine.
It's a 2020 4S which I leased for 3 years before buying it. I have had virtually no problems with it save from those of my own making. Tires are Michelins and I exchange to winters November to April. Short trips in cold weather really do crimp your range.
 

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This is what I am getting recently

It's a 2020 4S which I leased for 3 years before buying it. I have had virtually no problems with it save from those of my own making. Tires are Michelins and I exchange to winters November to April. Short trips in cold weather really do crimp your range.
This is still pretty impressive range. I am not getting close to that but I am a Turbo on 21-inch Mission-Es and All Season tires.
 

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I have Tungsten carbide coated brakes, rear-wheel steering, Sport Chrono but I doubt that any of these have an effect on range. I also use coasting exclusively, and Normal most of the time. Wheels are the Turbo 20"s.
 

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I have Tungsten carbide coated brakes, rear-wheel steering, Sport Chrono but I doubt that any of these have an effect on range. I also use coasting exclusively, and Normal most of the time. Wheels are the Turbo 20"s.
All of this sounds good, but how about Model Year and Trim.
 


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This seems to be about what I can expect in terms of keh/100mi
I do not know how you do it. This is really outstanding consumption numbers being in up state NY in the winter. I am not getting that even under the best conditions in the summer. Good for you!

You still did not share your Model Year and Trim for your Taycan.
 

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It's a Mamba Green Metallic 2020 4S with the large battery, rear wheel steering, tungsten carbide brakes, Michelin 4S summers, Pirelli winters, Burmester audio, sound mitigating glass,
See the attached screenshot for complete description.
It was one of the early cars delivered in NYS..., I took possession of it in September 2020.
 

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It's a Mamba Green Metallic 2020 4S with the large battery, rear wheel steering, tungsten carbide brakes, Michelin 4S summers, Pirelli winters, Burmester audio, sound mitigating glass,
See the attached screenshot for complete description.
It was one of the early cars delivered in NYS..., I took possession of it in September 2020.
I wonder if you could get the OBD and do a read out of the data as I suggested for the OP in this thread. The range and consumption you are showing are very impressive for any Taycan with PB+ and for a 2020 in particular.
 

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So far, I haven't ventured into that territory, not wanting to risk creating an electrical glitch.
I realize it's not really a big deal, and will have to consider it.
By the way, I charge almost exclusively at home on a Porsche Level 2 charger...plus or minus 8.4 KW.
The only time it is fast charged is when it is serviced at Porsche Syracuse.....and very occasionally on longer trips.
It lives exclusively outdoors.
 

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So far, I haven't ventured into that territory, not wanting to risk creating an electrical glitch.
I realize it's not really a big deal, and will have to consider it.
By the way, I charge almost exclusively at home on a Porsche Level 2 charger...plus or minus 8.4 KW.
The only time it is fast charged is when it is serviced at Porsche Syracuse.....and very occasionally on longer trips.
It lives exclusively outdoors.
OBD reading is no big deal as it is a read only device designed to work with the OBD port in the car, which is a 12v system, but I understand if you are not comfortable with it. I measure my data every 1k miles and that gives me a peace of mind that everything is working as expected since we are under ABR6 and ARB7 recalls now.
 

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Thanks, and I will seriously consider it.
I have had all the updates save those you refer to.
I am hoping that they will become available later in the Spring.
By the way, the brake line and associated software update really improved braking response.
 

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Going from 300 - 200 miles range is quite drastic
It's not drastic if you're comparing some default value programmed at the factory, or someone driving it like in a parade for a while. I picked up my Taycan brand new in a hot state which never freezes (which led to my Taycan having wiper fluid which froze as soon as temps dropped to 32F/0C, but that's a separate story), my estimated miles were nice and high. I drove it home 3,500 miles across the USA in the middle of February. Those estimates were blown on every leg of the trip,. Lucky this wasn't my first cross country trip in an EV, so I compensated for it. It took maybe 1,500 miles for the car finally start estimating mileage more realistically (which was much less than factory default).

Bottom line is this. The range estimator gives a range based on last 1000-2000 miles of driving, current car and ambient temperature - to see that, watch what happens to estimated range if you let the car cool off, for example, arrive at a charger, let it finish charging, note the range as soon as it finishes (so battery still hot). After the car cools off, the estimated range is less - no the car did not lose charge, it is simply account for the energy cost to heat the car back up. Furthermore, if you don't enter your destination in Porsche navigation, the car has no idea where you're going, so it will estimate the range based on last 1000-2000 miles of driving. Entering the destination into nav will produce a more accurate range estimate, as it accounts for elevation changes, etc. Not sure if Taycan includes weather, but I've used ABRP app in the past which does a pretty good job at it (though it might freak some people out that their range is jumping up and down with changing weather forecasts).

As a point of reference, my car is charged to 85% right now and the estimated range is 183miles - battery is cold, but car in garage, so it is not seeing he below freezing outside temperatures, on 20" winter tires, mostly short trips lately (under 10 miles, half of them I preheat the car while still connected to EVSE). I charge my Taycan to 85% daily, except on some trips where I vary the target SoC depending on needs, sometimes charge the car to 100% when needed, including just before departing on the trip. My battery SoH was 93.726% a month and half ago (I checked with Car Scanner when my onboard charger gave up its ghost just before Xmas). Taycan is 2 years old, with ~14k miles on it, currently on 20" winter tires (Porsche NF0 rated Goodyear UltraGrips).
 
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As I said … everyone has a different view of spirited or fun driving and 23kwh per 100 would be 226 miles
Lol, try a fun and spirited track day if you really want to see low ranges. Heck, even cruising thought some places with high speed limits in cold weather can shock you. I remember on a different EV, rated at 265miles, I barely managed 140 miles on a full charge once, zipping through a state with 80mph speed limits (so 100mph is just a ticket, not a car impound + go to jail dangerous driving offense), cool weather, and some elevation changes - arrived at 3% SoC at the DC charger, after having to slow down under the speed limit last 20 miles or so to even be able to reach it. We don't have autobahns in the US, but I'm betting full throttle Taycan range on unrestricted speed segments is significantly less than rated, especially in the winter.
 
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Thanks, and I will seriously consider it.
I have had all the updates save those you refer to.
I am hoping that they will become available later in the Spring.
By the way, the brake line and associated software update really improved braking response.
I second @SergeyIndy's comment, the CarScanner OBD scan does not change anything on your car, nor does it affect anything in your car. The High Voltage Active warning is for legal liability reasons, giving anyone who may be diagnosing the car, a warning to not touch the orange wires. CarScanner does have options to clear faults and such, but they are very explicit and you are unlikely to do it by accident (even if you did, really not an issue whatsoever unless you want the dealer service department to investigate some error which happened only once and is not happening again). I do a lot more that this on my car, I actually modify my car's configuration to suit my preferences (using other tools than CarScanner), and even that does not affect my warranty in the US unless Porsche can prove my changes caused the issues - the service techs at my dealer actually know most of my modifications, they don't mind at all, they find it interesting how I've been able to customize my car, no issues with any recalls or warranty claims.

PS> Absolutely agree with you, the PSM firmware update which came with the brake lines recall is IMHO the best Porsche released update to-date. It's a silver lining of the brake lines recall - if it wasn't for potentially dangerous brake lines, we would have not received the PSM firmware update. I so wish Porsche didn't fail miserably in developing their OTA update system.
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