Porsche sales 1st QTR 2026 -article

[tigerbalm]

My spec sheet on a perfect GTS Targa has a price tag of 235 K Euro.

It starts in Ireland at €305,000 with my target spec coming in at €369k. I think the t-hybrid is very interesting but my 992.1 Targa remains perfectly usable and the best "adventure" car we've ever owned.

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[snstevens]

[Citation required]

Please don't dump AI output into forums, especially without linking to sources. Now you're feeding nonsense back into the training set without any way for a human to verify it...

Actually, I appreciate people doing research like this and sharing it. As it happens, there are also methods to tag information like this “AI Generated “.

@Administrator - can you please suggest a relevant standard for Taycan Forum members to use to tag the beginning and end of AI generated content?

 

[prj]

Actually, I appreciate people doing research like this and sharing it. As it happens, there are also methods to tag information like this “AI Generated “.

@Administrator - can you please suggest a relevant standard for Taycan Forum members to use to tag the beginning and end of AI generated content?

That's not research it's LLM word salad that has zero practical value or connection to reality.
It's just fiction, nothing more.

 

[snstevens]

That's not research it's LLM word salad that has zero practical value or connection to reality.
It's just fiction, nothing more.

I use various AI all the time now and find it very useful. So I’m curious as to why you say that this post is “fiction” with no link to reality. How do you know that to be true?

Not arguing with you btw. Just want to know how you can tell it is all fiction.

 

[prj]

I use various AI all the time now and find it very useful. So I’m curious as to why you say that this post is “fiction” with no link to reality. How do you know that to be true?

Not arguing with you btw. Just want to know how you can tell it is all fiction.

Any LLM "research" is fiction. I don't think you understand how these LLM chatbots work - they just put words together that seem like they match.
Paid version of ChatGPT for example could not even summarize the power gains from our website into a table without mistakes, and some numbers were completely random.

And you expect it to come up with some kind of financial information where there is no source present? It's complete fiction. Made up.

Just because it uses nice grammar and punctuation in a table does not make it non-fiction.
Your chatbot does not have data on dealer margins or component/labor costs so all those numbers are pure make believe.

 

[SoccerMan94043]

Any LLM "research" is fiction. I don't think you understand how these LLM chatbots work - they just put words together that seem like they match.
Paid version of ChatGPT for example could not even summarize the power gains from our website into a table without mistakes, and some numbers were completely random.

And you expect it to come up with some kind of financial information where there is no source present? It's complete fiction. Made up.

Just because it uses nice grammar and punctuation in a table does not make it non-fiction.
Your chatbot does not have data on dealer margins or component/labor costs so all those numbers are pure make believe.

Oddly enough the models are evolving quickly. Might want to try again with a better model (see a recent hack with more modern models attached... it's really impressive).

 

[Torv]

[Citation required]

Please don't dump AI output into forums, especially without linking to sources. Now you're feeding nonsense back into the training set without any way for a human to verify it...

The ChatGBT link I shared has all the citations.

 

[prj]

The ChatGBT link I shared has all the citations.

That is not true, there is not a single link in there. The numbers are just made up on the spot.
If you like looking at fiction, then that's cool.

Just FYI I did a lot of research on this (and I don't mean LLM slop), because I shorted Porsche stock with 1/3 of my net worth last quarter (and since closed the shorts). These numbers are complete BS.

 

[Torv]

Whatever. If you doubt those numbers, and I don't given Porsche’s well-documented profitability over the years, you're welcome to take this info with a grain of salt. That said, I believe the data is very credible as ChatGBT gathers its info from public records like P&L statements and formal documents filed with various governmental agencies, especially for tax purposes.

 

[prj]

Whatever. If you doubt those numbers, and I don't given Porsche’s well-documented profitability over the years, you're welcome to take this info with a grain of salt. That said, I believe the data is very credible as ChatGBT gathers its info from public records like P&L statements and formal documents filed with various governments.

Absolutely not. There is no data that publicly exists on the per unit profitability from Porsche with a breakdown per model.
I have actually read the filings when I did my research before I bet 1/3 of my net worth on the stock decline.
This AI slop isn't it. There are no sources cited. You posted completely made up numbers. I hope you do not make any financial decisions off of them.

Porsche has had very bad profitability in the last quarters, completely the opposite of what you are saying. Management lied about the margins last quarter. I knew the management was lying before the stock and the market moved. The drop was pretty dramatic from 48 EUR/share to 36 EUR/share. Enough to make quite a bit of money.

 

[Torv]

Absolutely not. There is no data that publicly exists on the per unit profitability from Porsche with a breakdown per model.
I have actually read the filings when I did my research before I bet 1/3 of my net worth on the stock decline.
This AI slop isn't it. There are no sources cited. You posted completely made up numbers. I hope you do not make any financial decisions off of them.

Porsche has had very bad profitability in the last quarters, completely the opposite of what you are saying. Management lied about the margins last quarter. I knew the management was lying before the stock and the market moved. The drop was pretty dramatic from 48 EUR/share to 36 EUR/share. Enough to make quite a bit of money.

I absolutely don't! Obviously, Porsche has lost money the last couple of quarters, but the fact remains, Porsche is historically an extremely profitable car company. My point is, and I think you agree, Porsche has priced themselves into a corner where customers may think twice about sustaining the profit margins Porsche has depended upon.

 

[prj]

I absolutely don't! Obviously, Porsche has lost money the last couple of quarters, but the fact remains, Porsche is historically an extremely profitable car company. My point is, and I think you agree, Porsche has priced themselves into a corner where customers may think twice about sustaining the profit margins Porsche has depended upon.

The history goes a bit further back, and the original Cayenne and then Macan saved Porsche from bankruptcy.

So I disagree with the statement that it has historically been extremely profitable. Yes, in the very near history, but in the 2000's they were teetering on bankruptcy before they had a slam dunk selling Cayennes.

It's a very capex intensive business, so you really have to be on top of your game. Management has completely missed the mark with a no-reason forced transition to electric before their customer base was ready.
Apparently applying greenwashing to a brand catering to die hard petrol heads can go seriously wrong - who would have thought?

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