Buying a Taycan that was bought back (lemon)

[Travis]

Sorry to hear that, hopefully it gets resolved soon.
The dealership is a very close drive for me, and I don't mind potentially having to driving loaners for months if the car has problems again.
I did hear the lemon law applies to used cars as well, so if the car continues to have problems for me under warranty, the 2 years I have left on the warranty is plenty time to rack up the history of unfixable issue to get it lemon'ed again.



Yes, non-porsche. From what I heard though, this is very standard for Porsche for any lemon cars whether it was completely fixed or not. So it doesn't seem to be a problem of whether they think it's still problematic or not.



Thanks, I heard that no matter what they cannot CPO a lemon title. So it's not about whether they think it's not meeting the requirements or not (well not having the lemon title is one of the requirements I guess).



It's around $80k, original MSRP was $168k



Yes, car is in US. Good suggestion, I'm having pre-purchase inpsection done at a Porsche so will ask them for all service records as well as make sure it's covered under factory warranty.

You can not get a second buy back. Once the car is bought back the title is branded. All existing remaining warranties remain the same though. Porsche does not sell any buy back titles from their dealerships so they are always 3rd party dealers. Porsche repairs the buy back cars fully and are legally required to warrant the issue that was corrected for a minimum of 1 yr. These cars are heavily inspected by Porsche after repair, sold at auction. I would have no concern and use the discount to get into a higher end car you may otherwise not be able to afford.

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[turtletaycan]

You can not get a second buy back. Once the car is bought back the title is branded. All existing remaining warranties remain the same though. Porsche does not sell any buy back titles from their dealerships so they are always 3rd party dealers. Porsche repairs the buy back cars fully and are legally required to warrant the issue that was corrected for a minimum of 1 yr. These cars are heavily inspected by Porsche after repair, sold at auction. I would have no concern and use the discount to get into a higher end car you may otherwise not be able to afford.

Wow, that's a very important info I may have missed. Thank you....
Thanks for the advise, at this point I think I'm too invested on this one and will jump the gun either way and find out!

 

[rim23]

Wow, that's a very important info I may have missed. Thank you....
Thanks for the advise, at this point I think I'm too invested on this one and will jump the gun either way and find out!

Good luck! I wish and hope that’s going to be a reliable car!

 

[RAHRCR]

No it’s not. Porsche can not legally CPO and buy back branded title. It can have 5 miles on it. And since it’s not a CPO Porsche sells these at auction. There are many buy back Taycans in the US that have literally no problem but were bought back because many state laws require a dealer to do so if repairs can not be made in a defined time period that varies by state. Many Taycans had long lead times for parts and many owners opted to sell back a perfectly good car that simply needed a repair. Since a buy back brands the title and value, you should see a 15% reduction on market value on purchase that you will also see on sale. The very very majority of Taycans with buy back titles are from California and because they could not be fixed quick enough under state law. CA forces buy backs after 30 cumulative days out of service.

???? LOL. Maybe you meant to reply to something else ?

 

[PinkPorschePrincess]

When do you pick it up? ??

 

[Travis]

I recently bought a 2024 GLE450 with a $90k sticker price for $60k. It had 3,000 miles. It was a dealer buyback from California due to an unhappy buyer over an interior trim piece that MB could not order in under 30 days. It was a good customer so they bought it back. The title is marked as a buyback and has a letter from the dealer describing the issue and repair, and an extended warranty specific for this item beyond the factory warranty by 1 yr. Was purchased at a direct to consumer wholesale dealer in NJ that sells almost exclusively this type of buyback. These are not lemons, a lemon is forced return and a buyback is voluntary on the dealers behalf without any litigation. If you do your due diligence, a buyback can be a very good value with no additional risk to purchasing new. I think it’s somewhat comical to hear many forum users suggesting they would never go this route when many users spent $100k-$200k on a new car just to still have many issues. I have purchased two buybacks in my life and have not had a single issue let alone one related to the original issue. It’s obviously luck of the draw and buyback or not you may or may not have random issues beyond your control.

 

[turtletaycan]

When do you pick it up? ??

Hopefully next week! It’s getting shipped to me

 

[PinkPorschePrincess]

I'm so excited for you! I can't wait to see the pictures.

 

[Stash182]

I hope I'm not jinxing myself here, but I recently bought a loaded buyback '21 CT Turbo original MSRP $200k for $80k and am loving every min with it. It was a CA owner with backup cam issues. I would never have been able to attain my dream car without that buyback title. I was a bit worried about insurance but my agent said it has no impact.

Cameras have been good so far, though I find the resolution and fish eyed-ness of them disconcerting. Is that normal? My Mercedes and VW cams are superior IMO.

 

[agility65]

“It's around $80k, original MSRP was $168k”

doesn’t sound like a deal price.

I bought a branded 2020 Turbo S for $90K with 6 months left on warranty and 7K miles. Sticker was maybe $220K

Have 17K miles now and love the car.

Biggest issue is no extended warranty. Porsche repairs can be crazy expensive.

 

[j.w.s]

I'm 99% close to pulling a trigger on a 2023 Taycan GTS that was bought back by the dealer.
The first owner had it on lease, and after 14 months the dealership bought it back.
Porsche NA replaced the battery and sold it to this third party dealership.
The car has about 13k miles and still under the original factory warranty.

I did some research on buying a lemon Taycan and I hear mostly to NEVER purchase it.
However, since this is still in factory warranty and has couple years left on the warranty, I don't understand why this would be a bad purchase.
I think the only downside is when I will be trying to re-sell it, but I plan to drive it for a long time and not too worried about to resale value.

So, as long as the factory warranty is intact, and there's nothing that comes up in a vehicle inspection, can this be considered safe?

It has most of the options that I wanted and the color combinations. Also due to the Trump tariff on overseas vehicles I'm trying to hurry this purchase.

I would need a HUGE discount to even consider buying a lemoned car. Even if the lemon status "doesn't matter" to you, and even if you have zero problems during your ownership, that lemon title will reduce the resale value when you are ready to sell, even if that's years later.
But it's likely that you WILL worry about the lemon status the entire time you own the car, and it will I assume be more likely to have problems than a non-lemon car. I don't like worry.

 

[turtletaycan]

“It's around $80k, original MSRP was $168k”

doesn’t sound like a deal price.

I could a branded 2020 Turbo S for $90K with 6 months left on warranty and 7K miles. Sticker was maybe $220K

Have 17K miles now and love the car.

Biggest issue is no extended warranty. Porsche repairs can be crazy expensive.

On AutoTrader there's a very very limited number of 2023 GTS on the market nationwide.
The options and color and everything is perfect and I know something like that don't come easily.
If I pass now I might have to wait even a year to find the right one at the right price and options, the biggest one being the options. So I just bit the bullet.

I also read this other thread somewhere by a Porsche mechanic that worked in inspecting lemons or something and he mentioned that majority of the cases were just bad diagnostics and not something inherently wrong with the car.

 

[agility65]

Mine was a bad battery cell that was not diagnosed and finally replaced so I figured with the long battery warranty, I’d be fine. I did freak out after I purchased it and realized that I wouldn’t be able to get an extended warranty. Our MACAN was $4K for a bad headlight.

Some major repairs can become a total loss and I doubt Porsche will do anything to help, especially with a branded title.

I can afford for it to be a total loss but I hate the thought of a repair being $20K or more and having to decide whether to walk or fix it.

I can’t stand the 18 way seats so make sure you love everything about the car. I suspect new seats would cost $20K. Nothing is cheap.

 

[Nyc1212]

@turtletaycan sounds to me like you are talking about my '23 GTS. Chalk? I do miss that car so much was a great spec. Just decided to stop working after 1 year of error free ownership (lease). PCA could not fix it, although eventually they did fix it and i had it back for two weeks prior to returning it on the lemon process i had started many many painful months prior. For the two weeks i had it back it was perfect. Good luck if you did in fact buy it. Although 80k does not sound like a deal at all for a lemon. I think 60k would be very fair.

 

[turtletaycan]

@turtletaycan sounds to me like you are talking about my '23 GTS. Chalk? I do miss that car so much was a great spec. Just decided to stop working after 1 year of error free ownership (lease). PCA could not fix it, although eventually they did fix it and i had it back for two weeks prior to returning it on the lemon process i had started many many painful months prior. For the two weeks i had it back it was perfect. Good luck if you did in fact buy it. Although 80k does not sound like a deal at all for a lemon. I think 60k would be very fair.

I’m very curious! Can you let me know the dealership you initially bought it from or PM me the VIN? Very curious if it’s the same vehicle.

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