So if Porsche replaces someone's PCCB brakes with steel brakes, the owner is owed nothing unless they can prove they track the car regularly and long enough for steel brakes to fail while PCCB's would not?
I thought the replies were in similar same spirit as arguments I was replying to, along the lines of "It's useless to me, so nobody needs it, so it's not worth anything".
You are correct, most people don't need it, and therefore it has little value to them. However, value of something is not determined by what it's worth to most people, but rather to each individual.
Then most people will be happy with no compensation (as it is useless option to them, therefore of no value). Those who do see value (presumably those who chose to pay for it), should get greater compensation if they are forced to work around losing half of the charging performance of the car, like having to use alternative transportation or lose time due waiting for charging to complete.
It's because the OBC which fails is not only responsible for AC charging, but also for DC charging.
... and just by stating facts and subjective preferences, I'm not gaslighting anybody, nor am I declaring what is sufficient for anybody's needs.
Stop making things up and put words in people's mouth.
Ok, let's be more direct then.
Overrated by whom? I don't want to assume.
Agreed. Do you agree that the money reimbursement should be enough to make the car work exactly as it did before? Maybe set a maximum payout at MSRP where the manufacturer buys the car back as it is no longer fit for the purpose it was bought for, if the manufacturer is not willing to pay for an equivalent solution. What that solution is would likely be different for each user. In my case, replacing my 3 garage 19.2kW, load balancing EVSEs with DC chargers would do ok, as the only 80A out of the house charger I ever used has a Tesla supercharger nearby and I can finally charge there now. I would even offer Porsche a different deal, swap my wife's 2024 Q8 etron with a Cayenne EV Turbo, and then I can just alternate cars on the few days a year I need fast charging at home (one is charging while I drive the other, but all Porsche Turbo driving). Either of these solutions would require compensation well above $1,600 (the cost of the OBC upgrade at production time).
I am surprised that there would not be many useful 22 kWchargers in the UK. Looking at ChargeFinder around Poole, Southampton that I visited some years ago, there a lot.
The key word here is “useful“. Most people either charge slowly overnight for which 7-11 kW AC is enough, or charge on DC while out. Your map includes a lot of 50 kW DC chargers, and they have a role although even those are decreasing in utility given the incredibly fast charging speed of Taycans and the growing number of 150kW+ chargers.
Sounds like an acceptable compensation from Porsche for J1.1 owners in EU with failed 22kW charger could be a free replacement with an equivalent J1.2. Something tells me US owners might be amenable to such a solution too.
The filters are set to show Mennekes plugs, not CCS2? So it should only show AC chargers.
US and EU/UK are the same, only the voltage is different (240V vs 120V), that's why the amps are almost twice as high, it's a different architecture (more expensive) but the kW is the same.
