Class action filed Sept 25 against Porsche

[whitex]

From hazy memory, there was some feature the 22 supported that the 11 does not. I am struggling to recall. I somehow associate it with Tesla chargers. 2x 400V?

Early 2020 Taycan 11kW OBC's didn't support plug-and-charge. Once 22kW became available, Porsche offered 22kW OBC as a retrofit (paid, not cheap) to older Taycans as a way to add plug-and-charge. Later 11kW OBCs supported it.

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[Dee]

From hazy memory, there was some feature the 22 supported that the 11 does not. I am struggling to recall. I somehow associate it with Tesla chargers. 2x 400V?

That has nothing to do with this.
That's about DC charging.
Not all 150 kW fast chargers supported 800V architecture back then (400V was still standard) so your charge rate was 50 kW max if I recall correctly.
With option you could get an intelligent OBC support which converted that to 150 kW.

 

[ovonrein]

Doesn't ring a bell, @whitex. I understand the AC/DC bit, @Dee , but as you can read elsewhere, AC+DC are one module. As I say, I cannot recall. Must be something obscure, as I would recall otherwise.

 

[B61]

Sorry this has happened. These 22kW chargers on J.1 Taycans are indeed failing for a number of owners. I had mine replaced under warranty in the first year after I bought it.

Same here, twice

 

[Dee]

@Dee , but as you can read elsewhere, AC+DC are one module. As I say, I cannot recall. Must be something obscure, as I would recall otherwise.

I never said AC+DC aren't one module.
One can work without the other though.

I can recall cuz I have that option when I bought the car new in 2019.
Only 11 kW OBC available, 19,2 kW OBC came later and had that option as standard.

Option list:

It was a €364 option.

 

[ovonrein]

Ignore my posts. Found the old thread again. The option that came to mind is "150kW on-board DC-DC converter".

 

[Dee]

Ignore my posts. Found the old thread again. The option that came to mind is "150kW on-board DC-DC converter".

That's what I said.

 

[satchurator]

I recall quite clearly the non-intuitive but it-really-happened 19.2 AC OBC breaking DC Plug and Play Charging. Link below.

Also came here to call out @Dee. This forum is generally quite collegiate and respectful. @Dee your combative antics across multiple threads makes you an outlier in the community. Your opinions on the merits of 9.6/11kW vs 19.2/22kW AC charging are purely subjective. Your facts, (stated in absolute terms) on the independence of the AC and DC charging are incomplete. We already know how you will respond to this - do us all a favor and calm TF down. Stop picking fights.

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...-for-ea-charging-and-plug-charge.6545/page-12

 

[Briguy]

Lots of passion shown on this topic. I have a related point on the whole charging topic.

My’25 CT4s has the 11kw OBC. I believe that the 19.2 kw OBC was an option when i ordered but i passed on it. I am told the 19.2 kw OBC is no longer an available option…

However i upgraded my home charger to be able to deliver at least 11kw (50 amp hardwired on a 70 amp breaker).

My ‘20 Taycan 4s has a 11kw OBC and will draw at that rate. BUT my’25 wont draw more than 9.6 kw. I have a complaint into Porsche on this and I am awaiting a resolution.

Other members of the forum have said that Porsche has “detuned” the car’s charging capability to preclude the higher charging rate. Effectively failing the spec that the car was advertised as providing.

They have said that Porsche will no longer support the 22 kw, or 19.2 kw, OBC. So i suspect Porsche is quietly pulling back from the more powerful home charging solutions.

 

[gtm]

Lots of passion shown on this topic. I have a related point on the whole charging topic.

My’25 CT4s has the 11kw OBC. I believe that the 19.2 kw OBC was an option when i ordered but i passed on it. I am told the 19.2 kw OBC is no longer an available option…

However i upgraded my home charger to be able to deliver at least 11kw (50 amp hardwired on a 70 amp breaker).

My ‘20 Taycan 4s has a 11kw OBC and will draw at that rate. BUT my’25 wont draw more than 9.6 kw. I have a complaint into Porsche on this and I am awaiting a resolution.

Other members of the forum have said that Porsche has “detuned” the car’s charging capability to preclude the higher charging rate. Effectively failing the spec that the car was advertised as providing.

They have said that Porsche will no longer support the 22 kw, or 19.2 kw, OBC. So i suspect Porsche is quietly pulling back from the more powerful home charging solutions.

I don't think Porsche ever sold 11kW charging capability on the J1.1 cars. The spec sheet on my 2023 clearly shows 9.6kW A/C charging. I was able to charge at 11kW until a recent service visit and, I assume, got an unwanted software update to the OBC module. Don't take your '20 in for service or your charging rate will probably get nerfed. The specs for J1.2 do show 11kW A/C charging but I suspect it has been limited to 9.6kW for reasons known only to Porsche.

 

[Briguy]

Porsche Canada’s technical specs website page for the Taycan says this:

 

[whitex]

Apparently Porsche is not even competent enough to scrub their website of old specs when they decided to start selling cars with reduced those specs. A simple text search for 11kW should have yielded this, but perhaps all their web content is a mash of code from various lowest bidders, and it's black magic to Porsche management how those pretty pictures show up on people's phones.

 

[Keegs]

Ignoring the technical aspect - but referring to the first few points raise; I was in my local Porsche dealership (UK) and the Service Agent was chatting to another customer in the same situation and the agent advised that Porsche will be compensating customers for those that have lost the 22kW as legally you've paid for the functionality and Porsche have failed to deliver.

 

[gtm]

Porsche Canada’s technical specs website page for the Taycan says this:

Based on the battery size shown the specs are for a J1.2 car. U.S. spec J1.2 cars do show 11kW, it's the prior version that was specified with 9.6. And it's interesting that Porsche shows charging time for 9.6, 11 and 22 kW chargers. All 3 options are available? 22kW is pretty much off the table for now but there it is on their configurator.

 

[Briguy]

they show capacity at, among other rates, 11kw. the car wont do more than 9.6 kw

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