Considering 1st EV but...

[daveo4EV]

Ok.

Would probably help the OP if you elaborate.

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/considering-1st-ev-but.31664/#post-480074

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[ze_shark]

To me it comes down to fault tolerance. Things go wrong. Chargers/charging fail. The EV use case is more brittle than filling up in 3 minutes at any of thousands gas stations.

So it comes down whether you can smoothly handle that one time in the year where things go sideways, or whether it makes you dump the car in frustration.

You may have DC FCs nearby or on the way for such contingencies, but your tolerance to such disruptions may not be the same as the next Forum Joe.

 

[69Mach390]

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/considering-1st-ev-but.31664/#post-480074

Touche

And yet what you wrote doesn’t really negate the post you disagreed with. But it’s good for the OP to get different opinions and takes either way.

 

[daveo4EV]

To me it comes down to fault tolerance. Things go wrong. Chargers/charging fail. The EV use case is more brittle than filling up in 3 minutes at any of thousands gas stations.

So it comes down whether you can smoothly handle that one time in the year where things go sideways, or whether it makes you dump the car in frustration.

You may have DC FCs nearby or on the way for such contingencies, but your tolerance to such disruptions may not be the same as the next Forum Joe.

I haven't had more than 3 charging issues is over 10+ years w/EV…it's not a brittle as people image - if you're relying on L2 charing it's even less brittle…L2 chargers are quite reliable - and fast charging is getting very reliable - especially now with supercharger access…

 

[whitex]

It’s not an if or but. It’s a “I know I have to drive long distances daily, will a BEV be a good car for this?”

The answer is “no,” it’s the worst car for this.

Can you do it? Sure. But it’s definitely not ideal.

I will disagree. My father used to commute ~100km each way to work in Ontario, Canada (so cold winters). Shortly before retirement he got an EV, and he wished he got one earlier. The cost of fuel was so much less, no issues with range (charging at home, plus work provided him with a NEMA 14-50 to plug into). He still drives an EV today, would not switch back to ICE car.

 

[whitex]

To me it comes down to fault tolerance. Things go wrong. Chargers/charging fail. The EV use case is more brittle than filling up in 3 minutes at any of thousands gas stations.

So it comes down whether you can smoothly handle that one time in the year where things go sideways, or whether it makes you dump the car in frustration.

You may have DC FCs nearby or on the way for such contingencies, but your tolerance to such disruptions may not be the same as the next Forum Joe.

I was once stuck in a major power outage with an ICE car (east coast Canada), turns out the gas station pumps run on electricity. Shit happens. For home charging, get a hardwired EVSE and install a NEMA 14-50 for your mobile EVSE as backup. Between this and a local DCFC charger, you should be covered to the same or higher degree than with an ICE car. Add a natural gas backup generator at home, and you're actually covered better than with an ICE car - your car can run on home electricity, home natural gas, or external electricity. With ICE car there needs to be external electricity and the gasoline needs to be delivered, so no shortages, or impassible roads, or trucker strikes.

Now, whether or not you want a Taycan, that's a different story. It is still an early adopter car. Mine is model year 2023 and between recalls and repairs it spends a month a year in service. Most of it came with a loaner, but not always (e.g. my heater died about a month ago, had to wait a couple of weeks to get a loaner, car still awaiting parts at dealer). Tesla might be your best bet for reliability for EVs today, but of course it doesn't drive anywhere near as well as the Taycan, nor does it have the available luxury features. I hear Toyota BZ4's are getting popular, but I don't have any experience with those, nor data about their reliability (though their major recall at the very beginning of their life was something Porsche would never match, a brand new ICE Toyota trailered to your home, while yours was taken away for repair, or full money back).

 

[69Mach390]

I will disagree. My father used to commute ~100km each way to work in Ontario, Canada (so cold winters). Shortly before retirement he got an EV, and he wished he got one earlier. The cost of fuel was so much less, no issues with range (charging at home, plus work provided him with a NEMA 14-50 to plug into). He still drives an EV today, would not switch back to ICE car.

This is where the details matter. 100 km each way means you can do that trip without charging.

In that scenario, no issues whatsoever. In fact it’s ideal.

If you can always charge at home and never on the road, that’s when EVs are amazing.

 

[Nikobimmer]

I did some quick maths and seems your commute is 200 miles total, not each direction. (unless you're in the office well under 5 days per week and/or take a lot of vacation, in which case congratulations) Please confirm.

Remaining questions:
1. Are you guaranteed to be able to L2 charge for up to 4 hours at work? (your workplace may have a limited number of L2 chargers with potentially lots of demand)
2. Can you do a J1.2 Taycan? (so likely new, not preowned)
3. Are your work hours such that you'll have enough time to charge overnight (to 80-90%)?

If you can answer a solid YES to any one of these three questions I think the Taycan - or pretty much any EV for sale today - is a go-for-it, slam-dunk, no-brainer. (and you'll probably never go back to ICE like many of us) *

Otherwise, there are followup questions...

* unless you live somewhere that gets very cold (as cold can negatively affect EV range quite dramatically) - no idea where "Columbia" is, assuming that's not a typo for "Colombia"

Round trip total of 200 miles.
2 chargers at the office, no one currently has an EV.

 

[daveo4EV]

Round trip total of 200 miles.
2 chargers at the office, no one currently has an EV.

this is no problem - 100 miles one way is easy peasy - charge at work you’ll need no more than 3 hours plugged in

 

[kuku]

I am also looking at the Porsche. I drive about 100 miles a day for work. I figure I'll need to charge every day at home if I get an L2 charger, but the thought of exceeding 100k miles so easily scares the financial sense in me. The only workaround, in my opinion, is just driving it once or twice a week for work and driving my 2014 Lexus GS350 ICE, which has only 250k miles and still drives smoothly, rarely giving me problems (mostly nails in my tires; I've gotten flat tires twice in 10 years). I wonder if my old Lexus would outlast the Porsche, lol?

 

[69Mach390]

I am also looking at the Porsche. I drive about 100 miles a day for work. I figure I'll need to charge every day at home if I get an L2 charger, but the thought of exceeding 100k miles so easily scares the financial sense in me. The only workaround, in my opinion, is just driving it once or twice a week for work and driving my 2014 Lexus GS350 ICE, which has only 250k miles and still drives smoothly, rarely giving me problems (mostly nails in my tires; I've gotten flat tires twice in 10 years). I wonder if my old Lexus would outlast the Porsche, lol?

With an EV, I would be more worried about age than mileage. Time does more damage to batteries than using them.

With a 100 mile commute, you’d be fine charging at home and would save a ton on fuel costs.

 

[kuku]

With an EV, I would be more worried about age than mileage. Time does more damage to batteries than using them.

With a 100 mile commute, you’d be fine charging at home and would save a ton on fuel costs.

My electricity is between 42 to 48 cent kwatt/hr.. it is pretty expensive here. So not much saving and will be easily eaten up by increase in insurance and car registration

 

[babylou66]

My electricity is between 42 to 48 cent kwatt/hr.. it is pretty expensive here. So not much saving and will be easily eaten up by increase in insurance and car registration

Are you sure about that rate? In Houston I'm paying $0.11 for 100% solar.

 

[kuku]

Are you sure about that rate? In Houston I'm paying $0.11 for 100% solar.

Are you sure about that rate? In Houston I'm paying $0.11 for 100% solar.

 

[B61]

200 miles per day * 250 working days = 50k miles/year.
i wouldn’t not buy EV for a such load, especially not Taycan or EQS.
Maybe Tesla with selfdriving functionality, but not such highend cars like Taycan or EQS.
(Just checked your weather conditions, but I’m still saying “no”, even if i’ll never go back to ICE. Especially NO to J1.1).

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