My Views After Test Driving RWD & 4S Both today!

[tbinmd]

For range porsche does coasting, so when you take your foot off the gas the car will cost. You can turn on region. I'm glad Porsche went this route, it makes the car more normal to drive. I can't stand the Tesla driving experience and would never own one of their products.

The majority of the stopping with the Taycan is using regen and not the brake pads. This is evident in how little brake dust accumulates on the wheels.

The Taycan drives like other Porsche's. Porsche did duplicate the driving experience.

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[tbinmd]

Im going to showroom tomorrow - so I will try switching on the REGEN thing.
I hope it stays on forever, once I set it to on, unless I switch it off manually.

Like I hope the car remembers the settings, and doesnt want me to manually switch on every time I get into the car.

But first thing is to see, if thats really stopping the car, without wanting me to brake

You won't be happy, just warning you now. Might want to stay with a Tesla.

 

[soamz]

you sure the Taycan is "THE" EV for you?

Yes, but all Im saying is, those should be basic options - https://share.getcloudapp.com/X6u8g4rk

You are spending more than 2x price and then you dont even get the option and the car also doesnt remember your settings like regen always ON, etc.
So, no matter if its Porsche or Tesla or mercedes, if the price tag is super premium, they should simply give the option for the driver to choose.

If they can give option for leather to choose, they sure can give for braking or holding. Leather isn't important, driving preference more is important.

 

[B61]

Good luck…with your Tesla

 

[porscheguy]

Thats auto HOLD feature, that I know it works.
What I mean is - ONE PEDAL DRIVING - means when you lift the foot from accelerator - the car automatically starts to brake.
Just no need to touch the brake at all - it automatically starts to brake - when you lift foot from accelerator - this is what I mean -

I wish you had been shown the differences between auto/on/off recuperation modes on your test drives. Since this is important to you, I recommend going back and checking out this feature. Others in this thread have also noted the different settings. I like driving in auto recuperation: When I remove my foot from the accelerator, my car coasts until I start to approach a car ahead. At this point, the car begins to automatically break without me touching the break. Here’s a recent example: I was traveling on a highway at 115 kph and my car sensed the stopped cars ahead at a stop light. My car automatically slowed to about 13 kph as I approached the light and then I pressed the brake for the final breaking from 13 kph to zero. Again, the braking and simultaneous recuperation implementation by Porsche is fantastic.

 

[soamz]

I wish you had been shown the differences between auto/on/off recuperation modes on your test drives. Since this is important to you, I recommend going back and checking out this feature. Others in this thread have also noted the different settings. I like driving in auto recuperation: When I remove my foot from the accelerator, my car coasts until I start to approach a car ahead. At this point, the car begins to automatically break without me touching the break. Here’s a recent example: I was traveling on a highway at 115 kph and my car sensed the stopped cars ahead at a stop light. My car automatically slowed to about 13 kph as I approached the light and then I pressed the brake for the final breaking from 13 kph to zero. Again, the braking and simultaneous recuperation implementation by Porsche is fantastic.

Oh yes, thats what I need.
Im going to showroom tomorrow and will immediately test this AUTO thing the first second.
All I want is not to be braking every second, as the car is fast and too quick.

 

[Jhenson29]

as the car is fast and too quick.

It’s too quick…? But you needed the 4S because the RWD is too slow…? I’m not following.

I still think you don’t understand that brake pedal is not equal to brake pads. Seems like it’s been explained enough though.

 

[DerekS]

I just hope Porsche releases this mode to all the owners via a software update.

Hahahahahahaha oh you sweet summer child.

 

[Indeo]

Interesting discussion on 1 pedal driving. I currently drive an Audi and test drove the Tesla. With one pedal driving, my wife got nauseous with the first go around. It got a little better when a test drove a second vehicle.
Personally, I don't like a 1 pedal driving and I fully understand that I am in the minority. I think it's dangerous particularly when a Tesla driver gets behind an ICE vehicle. My wife was afraid of me getting the Tesla for fear that if I drove her ICE vehicle later on, I might totally forget that all cars don't automatically decelerate, leading me to a crash. I also didn't want my kids learning how to drive on a Tesla for that same reason.
Besides that, I also really like the feeling of coasting after taking your foot off the gas. I guess again that I am in the minority here as virtually every Youtube reviewer likes 1 pedal driving. I also find long term driving with the pedal down puts a strain on the back of my buttocks/hamstrings potentially stimulating sciatic nerve irritation. Granted, with most of the auto driving options, this is a moot point.

Further, I kinda hated Tesla's backup view. After the surround view on the Audi, I really can't go back.

Lastly, I love the HUD, but hate the fact that it only works with Porsche Nav and not CarPlay. So that means you're eventually stuck paying Porsche to keep up your wifi connection on the car. But I guess we should all get used to bleeding money with nice vehicles...

 

[soamz]

Lastly, I love the HUD, but hate the fact that it only works with Porsche Nav and not CarPlay. So that means you're eventually stuck paying Porsche to keep up your wifi connection on the car. But I guess we should all get used to bleeding money with nice vehicles...

Isn't the nav and Connectivity coming with the car with the price ?
There is no term about paying extra for it.

I think, its all included and you dont have to pay anything extra for it.
I liked the Porsche Nav, may be it will take some time to get used to it, but I liked it.
Better to use it and CarPlay SYGIC or WAZE maps together for better nav jobs.

 

[kort]

So, Im in the market to buy the Taycan and went for the test drive today.
I tested both RWD and 4S.
Instantly, RWD was a turn-off, and I couldn't justify the double price of a Tesla at all.
I currently drive a Tesla Model 3 Long Range 2021.

So, I drove the 4S then and yes, that's when I could feel the Porsche feel and agility.
Instant love!
I read in the forums, that RWD steering is purer than 4S, but I felt 4S steering was a match made in heaven!

Here are some feedback -
1. Rear camera is trash, with very poor implementation.

2. Wireless CarPlay did not work, not sure why. I was in a 2021 car. I guess car play is wireless for 2021 and 2022 cars, right? You don't need to connect the cable.

3. The biggest turn-off was - there is no one pedal drive mode in Taycan. Tesla has it and its called creep/hold mode and it just makes the drive so so so so good and easy. Porsche doesn't have it, so you have to keep on using the brakes every now and then. I found this very weird. as 4S is quick and without one pedal drive creep hold mode, the brake pads will die soon, as you always have to brake again and again every 10 seconds maybe.
I just hope Porsche releases this mode to all the owners via a software update. Is there a place or email, where we can email them some features feedback?

4. The electric sound addon is almost not noticeable at all in RWD, so never get that addon if you order the RWD. But it's quite noticeable in 4S. But then again, 99.999% of drivers would be listening to music while driving, so no one would ever hear that electric sound, which is very very negligible. I would not get the electric sound addon. Even with that option off, the car is already making some sounds, and it's nice and subtle.

5. My final feedback to convince my wife was I need a Porsche, which I can customize to my own needs and I don't want to be driving a minimal computer like
a tesla. The feel when you sit inside a taycan with leather all around is epic good. I just wish I won't regret spending 2x price than my current tesla which does everything 100% perfect already.

6. The car which I test drove - did not have HUD or massaging seats, so I couldn't try them, but I think it would be great. Maybe existing owners of Massaging option and HUD option can tell better.

7. The car is big, so I guess the real axle steering thing might help, but it's just so expensive and I think, will skip it, as no point paying for an option that will only help in parking spots.

8. Now the final decision was to sit and finish the final config today. But Porsche's April production line is full and the dealership doesn't have any future allocation details.
Now Im worried, if I pay the deposit and don't get the allocation for April may, then I will be very sad to wait long. So, need to decide!

1. universally agreed

2. while carplay is glitchy it is possible that the carplay in that car was not initialized.
it needs to be plugged in once to connect the wireless function.

3. you will get used to the taycan method. I had been driving tesla cars since 2013 and was miffed at how the taycan drove but I quickly adapted and find that I do not miss the one peddle driving at all. use regen button set to Auto position, needs to be set at the outset of the ride and it will somewhat replicate some aspects of one peddle driving.

4. you are correct, I may have poor hearing but I never have noticed the external sounds the car is supposed to make.

6. I don't have the massaging seats so I cannot comment and I recently had a panamera loaner with the HUD system which I found to be very basic and very unnecessary, YMMV on this.

8. you could search around, some dealerships have unspoken for inbounds that might suit your needs.

 

[kort]

Oh yes, thats what I need.
Im going to showroom tomorrow and will immediately test this AUTO thing the first second.
All I want is not to be braking every second, as the car is fast and too quick.

the auto selection will only slow the car in response to traffic ahead of you, it will not act like a tesla does. if you are expecting any sort of one peddle driving the taycan may not be for you. like I noted in my earlier post I found the adaption to the taycan to be fast and easy after driving teslas for many years.

 

[W1NGE]

Yes, but all Im saying is, those should be basic options - https://share.getcloudapp.com/X6u8g4rk

You are spending more than 2x price and then you dont even get the option and the car also doesnt remember your settings like regen always ON, etc.
So, no matter if its Porsche or Tesla or mercedes, if the price tag is super premium, they should simply give the option for the driver to choose.

If they can give option for leather to choose, they sure can give for braking or holding. Leather isn't important, driving preference more is important.

Sorry but i don't think you understand these options & behaviours nor the rationale for not making certain features "remembered".

You pay your money and make your choice - no point in ranting about the whys and wherefores of how Porsche implement things - none are a hassle to enable and many are superfluous that you won't use.

 

[Klepper]

The Taycan was designed to drive like an ICE car, NOT like a Tesla (thank goodness!!). This is my first EV, and to me it drives just like my ICE cars. It was a seamless transition.

• From a stop, I take my foot off the gas, and it starts to inch forward....just like an auto trans ICE car.
• While driving, when I take my foot off the gas pedal, it coasts....just like an ICE car.
• When I want to slow down, I start to push the brake pedal, and the car starts to slow down...just like an ICE car (and the Taycan manages seamlessly behind the scenes whether to use regen and/or the brake pads depending on my speed and how hard I press the pedal).
• While I am sitting at a red light, I have my foot on the brake pedal, just like an ICE car.

I have zero interest in "one pedal" driving.

 

[Ciprianbadic]

So, Im in the market to buy the Taycan and went for the test drive today.
I tested both RWD and 4S.
Instantly, RWD was a turn-off, and I couldn't justify the double price of a Tesla at all.
I currently drive a Tesla Model 3 Long Range 2021.

So, I drove the 4S then and yes, that's when I could feel the Porsche feel and agility.
Instant love!
I read in the forums, that RWD steering is purer than 4S, but I felt 4S steering was a match made in heaven!

Here are some feedback -
1. Rear camera is trash, with very poor implementation.

2. Wireless CarPlay did not work, not sure why. I was in a 2021 car. I guess car play is wireless for 2021 and 2022 cars, right? You don't need to connect the cable.

3. The biggest turn-off was - there is no one pedal drive mode in Taycan. Tesla has it and its called creep/hold mode and it just makes the drive so so so so good and easy. Porsche doesn't have it, so you have to keep on using the brakes every now and then. I found this very weird. as 4S is quick and without one pedal drive creep hold mode, the brake pads will die soon, as you always have to brake again and again every 10 seconds maybe.
I just hope Porsche releases this mode to all the owners via a software update. Is there a place or email, where we can email them some features feedback?

4. The electric sound addon is almost not noticeable at all in RWD, so never get that addon if you order the RWD. But it's quite noticeable in 4S. But then again, 99.999% of drivers would be listening to music while driving, so no one would ever hear that electric sound, which is very very negligible. I would not get the electric sound addon. Even with that option off, the car is already making some sounds, and it's nice and subtle.

5. My final feedback to convince my wife was I need a Porsche, which I can customize to my own needs and I don't want to be driving a minimal computer like
a tesla. The feel when you sit inside a taycan with leather all around is epic good. I just wish I won't regret spending 2x price than my current tesla which does everything 100% perfect already.

6. The car which I test drove - did not have HUD or massaging seats, so I couldn't try them, but I think it would be great. Maybe existing owners of Massaging option and HUD option can tell better.

7. The car is big, so I guess the real axle steering thing might help, but it's just so expensive and I think, will skip it, as no point paying for an option that will only help in parking spots.

8. Now the final decision was to sit and finish the final config today. But Porsche's April production line is full and the dealership doesn't have any future allocation details.
Now Im worried, if I pay the deposit and don't get the allocation for April may, then I will be very sad to wait long. So, need to decide!

The 4S is definitely the safe choice if budget allows but there’s nothing wrong with RWD. Plenty fast and agile for 90% of european roads at least, amazing range even at low temps (350-400 km range) and it’s cheaper or you can add more luxuries to compensate??‍

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