NF0 Pirelli vs Non-NF0 Michelin PS4S

[Scandinavian]

How about Goodyear? I went from Pzeros to Goodyear Asymmetric 5. Just a tad, a tad less grip and slightly, just slightly more road noise than the Pzeros. BUT...they last 2-3 times longer. I got squeezed out 12k on the Pzeros. Going on 19k miles on the Goodyears with about another few k until I start brushing the wear bars in the rear.

That is what is expected.

PZero’s are well known for grip. Downside is they wear faster and since they are “stickier” they also result in a higher kWh consumption. So it really is a balance that only you can decide upon.

I have the GY Asymmetric 5 and they suit my use for long distance driving well. I have never felt them wanting for grip either in dry or wet conditions.

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[Scandinavian]

They vibrates so much I can feel it on the steering wheel

That hardly due to the tyre brand. Unbalanced wheel in brand x,y, z will have the same effect.

Maybe the unbalance on the front then also shakes so much that it looses grip in the turns?

 

[WattTurbo]

That hardly due to the tyre brand. Unbalanced wheel in brand x,y, z will have the same effect.

Maybe the unbalance on the front then also shakes so much that it looses grip in the turns?

I know what mean by unbalanced tires but those causes a little bit of wheel wiggle. In this case, it’s very tiny but rapid vibrations. Also, the 4s is a ‘24 with only 1600 miles on it. My tires have been mounted for over 9k miles and haven’t been rebalanced since. And I just remember I kept thinking it didn’t have air suspension because it drove so much stiffer but it does have that option. The button on dash is off, and I even went into the menu to make sure it’s off.

 

[JWreck]

Gotcha. Is there a generic PS4S version for the rear (305/30/21)? Tirerack is showing MO1A. If not, then that means that PS4S size made and tweaked specifically for a Mercedes AMG car.

I was thinking I would get those, then I ran across the NA0 spec 4S built for the 911.

The only difference is tread width (rear tires only) - the Mercedes tire is 10.7” tread width, 911 NA0 tread width is 11.8” and for reference, the PZero NF0 Taycan tire is 11.4”.

Not exactly sure what that equates to - maybe a slightly more square tire as the tread reaches further across?

 

[whitex]

PS4S vs. PZ4 test comparison:
https://www.tire-reviews.com/Compare/Pilot-Sport-4-S-VS-P-Zero-PZ4.htm

 

[f1eng]

I know what mean by unbalanced tires but those causes a little bit of wheel wiggle. In this case, it’s very tiny but rapid vibrations. Also, the 4s is a ‘24 with only 1600 miles on it. My tires have been mounted for over 9k miles and haven’t been rebalanced since. And I just remember I kept thinking it didn’t have air suspension because it drove so much stiffer but it does have that option. The button on dash is off, and I even went into the menu to make sure it’s off.

I have Goodyears on my summer rims, no vibration and good grip IME.

Over the last 40 years I have usually chosen Michelin based on the engineering expertise of the engineers I worked with in racing but I am pleased with both the Goodyear summer and Pirelli winter tyres supplied for the car by my dealer. I will replace with the same when I change.

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