Range averaging an anemic 100mi 2022 RWD Taycan!!!!!!!

[Willie]

Tracked from fully charged range and compared it to actual miles driven (prior to the next charge) for a period of 6 weeks. Average range = 100mi. +/-. Basically averaging 1/2 actual miles for every 1.25 range miles. Dealer service manager kept my 2022 RWD Taycan car for 2 days and reported "no issues". He actually told me that he has seen "many Taycen's with similar range". I would not accept his conclusion so he had me bring the car back (today) so he could drive it for 3 or more days.
Has anyone experienced this problem? I drive mostly in the city, at normal speed, and average less than 500 miles per month.
BTW, does anyone know how to contact Kjell Gruner, CEO Porsche North America.?
Finally, how do you engage/disengage the child safety lock?
Thank you

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[Midlifecrisis]

The child safety lock engages/disengages with the rear window lock. The button is on the drivers door by the bottom to fold the mirrors (if you have this)

 

[Loltheinternet]

What does the car measure your consumption at? (i.e. how many mi/kwh)

 

[Reg]

Obviously this is not anywhere near normal.

ask them to run the battery capacity check. That is a specific diagnostic that can tell you something about the capacity of the battery.

There is another slight possibility that since you are driving the car so little, the mileage guesstimator is just not calibrating yet and it gives you some odd estimates.

 

[Archimedes]

Assuming you're charging to 85%, that's not even close to normal/acceptable range. Maybe send him a link to Porsche's website...




I drive like a total loon, in the worst possible way for range, and I get 225 miles of range at 100% charge in my 4S.

Are you charging to something below 85%? Has it been ridiculously hot during this time period?

 

[Buckets265]

I had poor range the first 2-3 weeks because I did not drive that often. After several short and long trips the computer is in an acceptable range of 250-275 miles. Maybe vary your trips to see if the computer updates itself. If not, then possibly a problem with the battery.

 

[W1NGE]

Tracked from fully charged range and compared it to actual miles driven (prior to the next charge) for a period of 6 weeks. Average range = 100mi. +/-. Basically averaging 1/2 actual miles for every 1.25 range miles. Dealer service manager kept my 2022 RWD Taycan car for 2 days and reported "no issues". He actually told me that he has seen "many Taycen's with similar range". I would not accept his conclusion so he had me bring the car back (today) so he could drive it for 3 or more days.
Has anyone experienced this problem? I drive mostly in the city, at normal speed, and average less than 500 miles per month.
BTW, does anyone know how to contact Kjell Gruner, CEO Porsche North America.?
Finally, how do you engage/disengage the child safety lock?
Thank you

Can you provide more data as it is hard to decipher from what you have provided?

1. What Taycan model do you have (thread is entitled Taycan RWD but your profile says 4 wheel drive (this doesn't exist, all-wheel drive does (not the same thing))?
2. What battery do you have - Performance Battery or Performance Battery Plus?
3. From your My Porsche App can you share screen shots of your Total Trip and other trip displays as these will show the all important average consumption figures?
4. What is your battery's reported range when state of charge is 80% or 85% and 100%?

Child safety lock query has been answered by others (please refer to Porsche Good To Know or the Manual tab in your app - lots of useful guidance there).

Thx

 

[Willie]

Can you provide more data as it is hard to decipher from what you have provided?

1. What Taycan model do you have (thread is entitled Taycan RWD but your profile says 4 wheel drive (this doesn't exist, all-wheel drive does (not the same thing))?
2. What battery do you have - Performance Battery or Performance Battery Plus?
3. From your My Porsche App can you share screen shots of your Total Trip and other trip displays as these will show the all important average consumption figures?
4. What is your battery's reported range when state of charge is 80% or 85% and 100%?

Child safety lock query has been answered by others (please refer to Porsche Good To Know or the Manual tab in your app - lots of useful guidance there).

Thx

1) RWD
2)Performance Battery Plus (93.4 kWh)
3)Not sure I can do that. I'll ask my wife this afternoon. What does Avg E-Cons. reveal?
Here is an example of how I tracked range:

Starting Point : New Charge = Range 243mi. @85%
Day Miles Driven Range
1 28 197
2 17 157
3 13 139
4 13 121
5 2 99
6 38 37
Drove 111 miles /////Range Used 206mi.

DOES THIS HELP??
4)85% 250+/- (don't charge above 85%)

 

[Satiger]

Tracked from fully charged range and compared it to actual miles driven (prior to the next charge) for a period of 6 weeks. Average range = 100mi. +/-. Basically averaging 1/2 actual miles for every 1.25 range miles. Dealer service manager kept my 2022 RWD Taycan car for 2 days and reported "no issues". He actually told me that he has seen "many Taycen's with similar range". I would not accept his conclusion so he had me bring the car back (today) so he could drive it for 3 or more days.
Has anyone experienced this problem? I drive mostly in the city, at normal speed, and average less than 500 miles per month.
BTW, does anyone know how to contact Kjell Gruner, CEO Porsche North America.?
Finally, how do you engage/disengage the child safety lock?
Thank you

Batteries operate optimally when discharged and charged at regular interval.

Since you drive less, try discharging battery by turning on the car and then charge at frequent intervals to maintain good efficiency.

Another factor is temperature. Cold temp and drastic temp fluctuation aren't good either ..,

 

[W1NGE]

1) RWD
2)Performance Battery Plus (93.4 kWh)
3)Not sure I can do that. I'll ask my wife this afternoon. What does Avg E-Cons. reveal?
Here is an example of how I tracked range:

Starting Point : New Charge = Range 243mi. @85%
Day Miles Driven Range
1 28 197
2 17 157
3 13 139
4 13 121
5 2 99
6 38 37
Drove 111 miles /////Range Used 206mi.

DOES THIS HELP??
4)85% 250+/- (don't charge above 85%)

Many thanks for sharing.

The consumption figures give a much better indication of the distance travelled and how much energy you used doing it. There are various Trip readings - the most useful is 'Total Trip' which if you have never reset it will give you the total average consumption of your Taycan since your first got it.

For example, you will see a value of miles / kWH recorded per trip, since last charged and Total Trip since day 0 (or since last reset). This 'magic number' will help to calculate what your typical or average consumption has been. You can either get the trip data from My Porsche website or more easily via My Porsche App on your phone.

Given you have the PB+ battery then the actual available kWh is 83.7 (the 'missing' 9.7kWh is reserved for battery management and does not contribute to the range of your vehicle).

When you get your trip readings (any) then multiply the mi/kWH by 83.7 to get a good indication of what your range will be. For example, if you are seeing 2.8mi/kWH for a given trip value then the total range would work out at 2.8 * 83.7 = 234.36 miles (estimated).

Just like a regular ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) EVs don't provide great efficiencies over short distances and this is probably what you are seeing and can therefore create the wrong impression.

A good mi/kWH figure is typically anything over 3.0. 3.6 is excellent and 3.9 would be 'outstanding'.

Many other factors are play here too - ambient air temperature, AC mode (ON, OFF, Eco, Eco Plus), battery temp and so on.

So let's keep it simple and just review your mi/kWH (electrical consumption figure) to see if this highlights anything.

My sense is that all is well and that you are experiencing poor consumption due to short distances typically travelled. I would have expected your dealer to explain the basics here but I suspect they've overlooked that and that's why there aren't finding anything out of the ordinary.

Using your range of 243 miles at 85% charge this would equate to 285 miles at 100% which to be honest is 'excellent'. The issue comes with what you then do next - drive a short distance with a normal driving style or aggressively. Both with result in low consumption figures and the worst will be aggressive driving over the same short distance.

 

[Midlifecrisis]

Are you pre-heating/cooling for every trip? That would disproportionately affect the range if you make lost of short trips

 

[Scandinavian]

1) RWD
2)Performance Battery Plus (93.4 kWh)
3)Not sure I can do that. I'll ask my wife this afternoon. What does Avg E-Cons. reveal?
Here is an example of how I tracked range:

Starting Point : New Charge = Range 243mi. @85%
Day Miles Driven Range
1 28 197
2 17 157
3 13 139
4 13 121
5 2 99
6 38 37
Drove 111 miles /////Range Used 206mi.

DOES THIS HELP??
4)85% 250+/- (don't charge above 85%)

From your profile you seem based in Arizona. And that is a hot place if my school geography is correct. So you might have pre cooling running? Or perhaps aircon at full blast for some time? You do have short trips recorded snd if that is in slow traffic in very hot weather it could be correct. As @W1NGE indicates your stats from the app should give you a lot of info. Each trip you would be able to see distance travelled, wh/km, time, average speed. Assuming of course that you are not doing red light drag racing?

And have you made any longer trip over say 100 mile in one go at say average speed of 60 mph?

From what you state the range at 85% is excellent but so much depends on the other variables.

 

[Willie]

Are you pre-heating/cooling for every trip? That would disproportionately affect the range if you make lost of short trips

Thanks for very much. No, I do not preset either.
The Trip Data "since start" indicates the following:

Avg E Cons 2.3 mi/kWh

Just noticed my dealer is charging the battery for his" first hand "road test. Currently 96%/267mi.

 

[Willie]

Thanks for very much. No, I do not preset either.
The Trip Data "since start" indicates the following:

Avg E Cons 2.3 mi/kWh

Just noticed my dealer is charging the battery for his" first hand "road test. Currently 96%/267mi.

NOW at 99%/276 range

 

[Satiger]

Batteries operate optimally when discharged and charged at regular interval.

Since you drive less, try discharging battery by turning on the car and then charge at frequent intervals to maintain good efficiency.

Another factor is temperature. Cold temp and drastic temp fluctuation aren't good either ..,

Forgot to add, charging full or almost full and and not draining the power for longer period is also another detrimental factor is batteries. They are not built as long term storage tanks .

For infrequent driving and/or long term storage, best is to charge upto at around 50% capacity .

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