Things I hate about my Taycan

[Bennachie]

That makes two of us............ most cars with a hatch deposit some fluid in the back when opened, I find.

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[W1NGE]

The trick is to wash the car on an incline such that the water at the rear can run off.

I always towel the car before opening the hatch / boot to remove the excess water which quite clearly will drip into the car (any car) when either is opened.

 

[Moonstone]

Charging
- The app and in-car interface is the worst I have seen in any brand. This problem has been solved many times over in super simple ways eg Tesla, Kia etc yet the Porsche software engineers decided to invent an obscure enigma interface that often lets me down.
- Poor tolerance to imperfections, often if something happens to power supply or charger the car refuses to recover and resume charging, whereas my wife’s Tesla just tries again periodically and resumes if supply is good.
- I have had one charging door failure already (replaced under warranty) but it seems like something that will probably fail again and there are 2 on the car.

Never had any charging issues what so ever and the plug and charge functionality with Ionity chargers is seamless.

- The phone charger - worst in any car I have owned or used, what were the designers thinking?

I really dont understand why people have an issue with this. Whats wrong with it, exactly? Put the phone, drive, stop, take the phone out...

- The passenger screen is super underpowered, often becomes unresponsive and is pretty useless except for allowing passengers to change songs in a poor interface ( no CarPlay on passenger screen)

I dont have one of these but the entire PCM is pretty crap. I don't understand what Porsche doenst leverage the knowledge and expertise of the rest of the group. My screen often stops responding and tiles on the homescreen that rely on internet information are often blank.

- Arm rest is designed for contortionists.

Dont get the issue with this either. It seems pretty intuitive to me. Again, it's not something that you should be using when driving, so where's the issue?

- Back seat design seems to make very little use of the very wide frame of the car.

The interior dimensions of the car defintely dont match up the exterior ones. For such a big car, it's comically tight in the rear.

- PCM is awkward, changing a radio station when using car play and switching between two is a daily PITA.

Don't have any issue with that. Hit the Music Icon on the left when in car play, change your station and then hit the Carplay button. Aside from programmable short cut button ala BMW, there's no quicker solution.

- Cameras are positioned poorly and the view from them is what I imagine a fish with a swollen eye sees.

I've no issue with any of the cameras. The rear one took a bit to getting used to, but once you realise that the red line is the width of the car and the rest of the image is peripheral, it's easy to manoeuvre.

- OTA updates seem to be a fabled feature at least compared to brands like Tesla where the updates are frequent and useful

Automakers have never really done OTA updates. Tesla were pretty much first with this. It's simply not in the DNA of legacy manufacturers because they want you to upgrade to a new car.

 

[Billocrates]

Whilst I absolutely love owning my Taycan and cannot think of an EV I would prefer, there are some absolutely shockingly bad annoyances, some of which I believe are still present in facelift.

Charging
- The app and in-car interface is the worst I have seen in any brand. This problem has been solved many times over in super simple ways eg Tesla, Kia etc yet the Porsche software engineers decided to invent an obscure enigma interface that often lets me down.
- Poor tolerance to imperfections, often if something happens to power supply or charger the car refuses to recover and resume charging, whereas my wife’s Tesla just tries again periodically and resumes if supply is good.
- I have had one charging door failure already (replaced under warranty) but it seems like something that will probably fail again and there are 2 on the car.

Interior
- The phone charger - worst in any car I have owned or used, what were the designers thinking?
- The passenger screen is super underpowered, often becomes unresponsive and is pretty useless except for allowing passengers to change songs in a poor interface ( no CarPlay on passenger screen)
- Arm rest is designed for contortionists.
- Back seat design seems to make very little use of the very wide frame of the car.
- PCM is awkward, changing a radio station when using car play and switching between two is a daily PITA.

Exterior
- Cameras are positioned poorly and the view from them is what I imagine a fish with a swollen eye sees.
- The washer for reverse camera in mine washes some random part of the car (needs fixing but I see a lot of people with same problem)

Other

- OTA updates seem to be a fabled feature at least compared to brands like Tesla where the updates are frequent and useful

Despite all these genuine annoyances I do love the car, it drives like nothing else I have tried and it looks amazing.

Anyone else agree/disagree with these?

Agree on all points, lovely to drive despite.

Whilst I absolutely love owning my Taycan and cannot think of an EV I would prefer, there are some absolutely shockingly bad annoyances, some of which I believe are still present in facelift.

Charging
- The app and in-car interface is the worst I have seen in any brand. This problem has been solved many times over in super simple ways eg Tesla, Kia etc yet the Porsche software engineers decided to invent an obscure enigma interface that often lets me down.
- Poor tolerance to imperfections, often if something happens to power supply or charger the car refuses to recover and resume charging, whereas my wife’s Tesla just tries again periodically and resumes if supply is good.
- I have had one charging door failure already (replaced under warranty) but it seems like something that will probably fail again and there are 2 on the car.

Interior
- The phone charger - worst in any car I have owned or used, what were the designers thinking?
- The passenger screen is super underpowered, often becomes unresponsive and is pretty useless except for allowing passengers to change songs in a poor interface ( no CarPlay on passenger screen)
- Arm rest is designed for contortionists.
- Back seat design seems to make very little use of the very wide frame of the car.
- PCM is awkward, changing a radio station when using car play and switching between two is a daily PITA.

Exterior
- Cameras are positioned poorly and the view from them is what I imagine a fish with a swollen eye sees.
- The washer for reverse camera in mine washes some random part of the car (needs fixing but I see a lot of people with same problem)

Other
- OTA updates seem to be a fabled feature at least compared to brands like Tesla where the updates are frequent and useful

Despite all these genuine annoyances I do love the car, it drives like nothing else I have tried and it looks amazing.

Anyone else agree/disagree with these?

 

[F1Ruaraidh]

Whilst I absolutely love owning my Taycan and cannot think of an EV I would prefer, there are some absolutely shockingly bad annoyances, some of which I believe are still present in facelift.

Charging
- The app and in-car interface is the worst I have seen in any brand. This problem has been solved many times over in super simple ways eg Tesla, Kia etc yet the Porsche software engineers decided to invent an obscure enigma interface that often lets me down.
- Poor tolerance to imperfections, often if something happens to power supply or charger the car refuses to recover and resume charging, whereas my wife’s Tesla just tries again periodically and resumes if supply is good.
- I have had one charging door failure already (replaced under warranty) but it seems like something that will probably fail again and there are 2 on the car.

Interior
- The phone charger - worst in any car I have owned or used, what were the designers thinking?
- The passenger screen is super underpowered, often becomes unresponsive and is pretty useless except for allowing passengers to change songs in a poor interface ( no CarPlay on passenger screen)
- Arm rest is designed for contortionists.
- Back seat design seems to make very little use of the very wide frame of the car.
- PCM is awkward, changing a radio station when using car play and switching between two is a daily PITA.

Exterior
- Cameras are positioned poorly and the view from them is what I imagine a fish with a swollen eye sees.
- The washer for reverse camera in mine washes some random part of the car (needs fixing but I see a lot of people with same problem)

Other
- OTA updates seem to be a fabled feature at least compared to brands like Tesla where the updates are frequent and useful

Despite all these genuine annoyances I do love the car, it drives like nothing else I have tried and it looks amazing.

Anyone else agree/disagree with these?

Pretty much with you on all of those.

- Terrible reversing camera
- Lack of one pedal driving option (plus having to set auto regen every SINGLE TIME)
- Ridiculous mess of timers and modes still fail to set up charging properly
- in car phone reception is beyond hopeless, I have to hold my phone out through an open window to get any bars of reception (double thickness glass option)
- 2014 range and efficiency (my 6yo Tesla is nearly as quick and yet a THIRD more efficient)
- reverse TARDIS packaging
- BOSE is rubbish (Tesla premium stereo in Model S knocks it into a cocked hat)

Otherwise it's pretty ace, handling and general driving particularly. Interior quality and options too. Lovely place to be

Positives
Handling
HUD
Carplay
Interior Quality
Style and design
HMI is good and intuitive despite many screens

 

[F1Ruaraidh]

It certainly is, the best car I have owned and I don't know what I would change to. From the responses it seems some people can acknowledge the flaws in a great car and some are very unhappy in life!

It's a great car alright, it's just a pretty mediocre EV

 

[timc3]

OTA continues to deliver map updates flawlessly and I'm happy that major functional updates to the car are generally precluded as I view this as a potential safety risk otherwise.

I've had a map update been applied to my Tacan whilst driving using cruise control and as soon as it pinged on the screen it decelerated really fast, like using the brakes fast. Luckily no one was close behind me, and I can't prove that the two things are related. My wife was not impressed.

 

[timc3]

Charging
- The app and in-car interface is the worst I have seen in any brand. This problem has been solved many times over in super simple ways eg Tesla, Kia etc yet the Porsche software engineers decided to invent an obscure enigma interface that often lets me down.

Been involved in software and software user experience for over 25 years, and I've used the Porsche charging setup as a case study in how not to design an interface. It's that bad.

Yes you can learn it, that's not an excuse.

 

[W1NGE]

I've had a map update been applied to my Tacan whilst driving using cruise control and as soon as it pinged on the screen it decelerated really fast, like using the brakes fast. Luckily no one was close behind me, and I can't prove that the two things are related. My wife was not impressed.

Which cruise option where you using?

I don't use ACC / Innodrive (random mapping issues)

I don't use speed limit governed control (random mapping and poor signage).

Old fashioned one for me and not had a similar experience.

Could be related but seems unlikely and mapping updates which could interfere should be installable only when the car is stationary or none of the mapping dependent systems active.

 

[slothinker]

These may have been mentioned ...

All points are valid.
My mindset is that it is a special car so compromises to be expected.

Charging - I agree that charging UI is not logical and terminology is confusing, but I got used to it and now it is second nature. I have full use of Direct, Profile, and Timer as designed. My electric charging doors are holding up, but I know they are fragile.

Phone Charger - I prefer wired charging anyway. J1.1 wireless charging is useless, but it has been revised for J1.2 so it is more powerful and now has cooling.

Armrest at least holds open starting with MY23 I believe as I am using it just fine.

Backseats are kind of cool as if you are taking people to space in a small spaceship capsule.

OTA expectations is a bit of a stretch to expect from a Porsche on the first run. However, to be fair the PCM should be faster in a 2020+ world, as it is painfully slow, but you learn to press and wait. I did not find Macan EV PCM to be an improvement.

Cameras are known to be poor but not unique to Taycan.

* The base RWD doesn't have a way to direct heat to the floor board.
* If there is a way to tell if the brights are on, I haven't figured it out. Usually the automatic dimming works but not always. I'm occasionally flashed by oncoming cars and surprised to see that the car's high beams are on.

 

[ct4s]

Re the wireless phone charging ...

On my car it doesn't work, or can be so bad it may be damaging my phone.
If I position my iPhone perfectly it will sometime start charging. However, it can get so hot the phone will shut down after an hour or so to avoid permanent battery damage.
And in that hour it's added just a few % charge.

New hardware being fitted in a couple of weeks. Hopefully this will fix it.

 

[SergeyIndy]

These may have been mentioned ...


* The base RWD doesn't have a way to direct heat to the floor board.
* If there is a way to tell if the brights are on, I haven't figured it out. Usually the automatic dimming works but not always. I'm occasionally flashed by oncoming cars and surprised to see that the car's high beams are on.

You can direct air flow to the floorboard, see below. 4-Zone allows footwells to be warmer.

You know when your high beams are on when the headlight indicator is Blue.

 

[slothinker]

You can direct air flow to the floorboard, see below. 4-Zone allows footwells to be warmer.

You know when your high beams are on when the headlight indicator is Blue.

Thanks. I'll check the heating settings later today and see if I can detect a warm breeze going towards the footwell.

Regarding the Green / Blue ... yes, I was aware of this green/blue description.However while driving I'm unable to detect the different between two rather close shades. That said, perhaps those with better vision, better multi-taskers and quicker reaction times would be able to tell the difference easily. Since there are all kinds of drivers out there, I still think that a separate high-beam indicator would be a plus and the lack of it is a negative.

 

[Mr. 2021 Taycan]

Agree with all your points, including that I can't find a car I enjoy driving more than my Taycan.

 

[W1NGE]

These may have been mentioned ...


* The base RWD doesn't have a way to direct heat to the floor board.
* If there is a way to tell if the brights are on, I haven't figured it out. Usually the automatic dimming works but not always. I'm occasionally flashed by oncoming cars and surprised to see that the car's high beams are on.

Huh?

Blue headlight indicator means full brights!

Auto (PDLS) mode is set when the indicator is green with an "A" in the middle of it.

Suspect you have been in manual mode hence the flashing!

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