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Way too long...
I don’t know when it finished. So I can’t say how long it actually took. But I don’t need my car between midnight and 9 AM anyway (for the most part). I’m semi retired.
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I received this email from Porsche. This is ridiculous they want me to throttle my $2500 charger to half speed and act like it's no big deal. I paid 1800 to have a 50A circuit installed because they recommended this. And now they want us to run it at 20A?

That's like selling a 600 HP 911 and telling the buyer to disable 3 cylinders and one of the turbos or the car may overheat.

Porsche needs to refund or replace these faulty units or I hope someone starts a class action lawsuit!


This notice applies to your vehicle: WP0AA2Y12NSxxxxxx



Dear Mr. Gore,

Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA) has developed an update to the Porsche Mobile charger for your E-hybrid or Taycan vehicle. We are contacting you because this update is now available to you free at your Porsche Dealer.



What is the issue?
High temperatures can occur in the plug socket when charging the vehicle using the Porsche Mobile Charger in conjunction with NEMA industrial plugs, due to the higher charging current. In certain situations, this can lead to heat damage to the electrical socket.


What will Porsche Do?
Your Porsche Dealer will limit the default current charging setting to 50% on your Porsche Mobile Charger and affix a warning sticker to your Porsche Mobile Charger using the NEMA standard. You will also be given a supplement to the Owner's Manual.

Thank you for your patience and allowing us to help maintain continued satisfaction with your vehicle.


What should you do?
Please contact your local Porsche dealer as soon as possible to schedule an appointment to have your vehicle’s mobile charger updated at NO CHARGE TO YOU.



Schedule Service Appointment


To find your nearest authorized Porsche dealer, visit: www.porsche.com/usa

What if you are not the owner or operator of this vehicle?
If you are the lessor and registered owner of the vehicle identified above, please forward this email to the lessee within ten days of receipt. If you’ve changed your address or sold the vehicle, please click one of the links below or contact customer support so we can update our records.



Change Your Address


No Longer Own Vehicle


Sincerely,
Porsche Cars North America, Inc.
I agree with you! My dealer did the update 2 weeks ago and never told me the time to charge my car would be twice as long. I received a letter from Porsche today stating the 50% reduction. I also never received an update to the manual per the letter. I emailed my service advisor and he said I could change the settings on the charger but Porsche does not recommend I do so. I would support a class action lawsuit. First there are plenty of law firms that would do this and it takes very little time to initiate. Large corporations only respond when sued. LG sold defective refrigerators for years and not until 2021 after a class action lawsuit did they compensate and fix the problem. Porsche is no different. Why should we accept a defective product and not force the company to fix it.? When the last time Porsche did the right thing without being forced by the gov’t or a lawsuit to do so?
 

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I agree with you! My dealer did the update 2 weeks ago and never told me the time to charge my car would be twice as long. I received a letter from Porsche today stating the 50% reduction. I also never received an update to the manual per the letter. I emailed my service advisor and he said I could change the settings on the charger but Porsche does not recommend I do so. I would support a class action lawsuit. First there are plenty of law firms that would do this and it takes very little time to initiate. Large corporations only respond when sued. LG sold defective refrigerators for years and not until 2021 after a class action lawsuit did they compensate and fix the problem. Porsche is no different. Why should we accept a defective product and not force the company to fix it.? When the last time Porsche did the right thing without being forced by the gov’t or a lawsuit to do so?
This is a dumb idea. It will rage on for years. Lawyers will get rich and we'll see a $5.00 check. Just get yourself a better charger and move on.
 

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This is a dumb idea. It will rage on for years. Lawyers will get rich and we'll see a $5.00 check. Just get yourself a better charger and move on.
Lawyers: If you're not part of the solution, there's plenty of money to be made in prolonging the problem.
 

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This is a dumb idea. It will rage on for years. Lawyers will get rich and we'll see a $5.00 check. Just get yourself a better charger and move on.
As you said, the customers will see a token amount after years, however, the cost to the company being sued is not insignificant if they lose. The primary usefulness of a class action lawsuit is to discourage the company from screwing the customer again. Perhaps it would prevent Porsche from contemplating something like a notice and a warning sticker such as "you can use the sport and sport plus modes, but Porsche discourages its use" as a solution to some drivetrain or battery problem.
 


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All that a class action like this would do in the long run is increase the length of our manuals and sales contracts by a few pages for more disclaimers and increase the price of future cars. No thank you: I will forego my $5 check.
 

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As you said, the customers will see a token amount after years, however, the cost to the company being sued is not insignificant if they lose. The primary usefulness of a class action lawsuit is to discourage the company from screwing the customer again. Perhaps it would prevent Porsche from contemplating something like a notice and a warning sticker such as "you can use the sport and sport plus modes, but Porsche discourages its use" as a solution to some drivetrain or battery problem.
And Porsche will just pass the cost onto the customer. We could sleep well knowing that a few bucks of the price of our next Porsche went to some ambulance chasing plaintiffs lawyers.

This is another thread that reeks of Porsche owner entitlement. It a fucking glorified extension cord we’re talking about. Quick, someone get Erin Brockovich on the phone!
 

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As you said, the customers will see a token amount after years, however, the cost to the company being sued is not insignificant if they lose. The primary usefulness of a class action lawsuit is to discourage the company from screwing the customer again. Perhaps it would prevent Porsche from contemplating something like a notice and a warning sticker such as "you can use the sport and sport plus modes, but Porsche discourages its use" as a solution to some drivetrain or battery problem.
Not all class action lawsuits result in $5 remedies so get your facts correct. What Tom was advocating was getting Porsche to fix the defective charger. E.G the LG class action took 2 yrs, never went to court resulted in owners getting 10 warranty extend up to $3200 for loss food. However, there is sn easier way to get Porsche to replace the Mobil charger issue. Ask dealer to file a warranty claim. When it’s denied request arbitration. If you have the smarts you do not need a lawyer for arbitration
 


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And Porsche will just pass the cost onto the customer. We could sleep well knowing that a few bucks of the price of our next Porsche went to some ambulance chasing plaintiffs lawyers.

This is another thread that reeks of Porsche owner entitlement. It a fucking glorified extension cord we’re talking about. Quick, someone get Erin Brockovich on the phone!
Porsche owner entitlement?! Jesus dude - they sold a virtually useless $2500 charger! Yea, I guess I do feel entitled to have it work or be replaced! As would any car owner; Porsche, GM, Hyundai or any make. Your mentality is Wacked!
 

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Porsche owner entitlement?! Jesus dude - they sold a virtually useless $2500 charger! Yea, I guess I do feel entitled to have it work or be replaced! As would any car owner; Porsche, GM, Hyundai or any make. Your mentality is Wacked!
 

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Tom you are so correct. I am going to research the matter further and look at what Porsches statements were when they released the mobil charger, what assertions they made, what the warranty says and procedures to file arbitration. I did this before with defective leather in a BMW and won. Porsche’s first response will be to deny any liability etc. Their tune will change after a arbitration claim is filed. Porsche has sold apprx 19,608 Taycans in the USA. If every owner demanded a fix to this issue- the retail cost to replace all the chargers wb $49,0202,000. You think Porsche is going to do the right thing without being forced ? Even if they developed a new charging cable and the cost was $300 = $5,882,400. No way will they voluntarily do even that is my guess
BTW the way you think is why so many Californians are moving to Texas to get way from the wacky thinking in CA
 

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I don't blame people for being pissed. I am instead saying that you have to look at a bad situation and decide whether the benefits of fighting with a company outweigh the burdens of doing so.

It is sort of like being cut off on the road. Sure you are in the right that you should not have been cut off and you deserve an apology, but starting a fight actually makes you feel worse over the long run (despite the initial thrill) and the chances that you will get an apology, while not impossible, are pretty slim.

I like the idea of filing a warranty claim. I actually think that is a low cost means that might be more likely to succeed.

Sort of off topic, but I was driving my Taycan near Rittenhouse Square in Philly and I was in the farthest right-hand lane of a one-way, three-lane street and, while my car was moving at about 1-3 mph, the car in the middle lane suddenly opened their door into my car! I was in shock. You don't expect to get a door ding when you are actually driving your car on the road. The woman very clearly saw what she had done, my window was down, and I was waiting for an apology. She said nothing and started to walk away. The guy who was driving was looking straight ahead trying to ignore the situation, but with his window down too. I finally just exploded with a "Jesus Christ Man", which the woman heard, turned around, came back to me and said "Please do not take this out on him, that was all my fault and I'm very sorry." haha. ok. problem solved but so weird. (no door ding by the way so glad I didn't escalate).

I feel the same way here. Porsche is the woman who opened her door into my Taycan while both cars were rolling down the street and then walked away without acknowledging what just happened.
 
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I don't blame people for being pissed. I am instead saying that you have to look at a bad situation and decide whether the benefits of fighting with a company outweigh the burdens of doing so.

It is sort of like being cut off on the road. Sure you are in the right that you should not have been cut off and you deserve an apology, but starting a fight actually makes you feel worse over the long run (despite the initial thrill) and the chances that you will get an apology, while not impossible, are pretty slim.

I like the idea of filing a warranty claim. I actually think that is a low cost means that might be more likely to succeed.

Sort of off topic, but I was driving my Taycan near Rittenhouse Square in Philly and I was in the furthest right hand lane of a one way street and, while my car was moving at about 1-3 mph, the car in the middle lane suddenly opened their door into my car! I was in shock. the woman very clearly saw what she had done, my window was down, and I was waiting for an apology. She said nothing and started to walk away. The guy who was driving was looking straight ahead trying to ignore the situation. I finally just exploded with a "Jesus Christ Man", which the woman heard, turned around, came back to me and said "Please do not take this out on him, that was all my fault and I'm very sorry." haha. ok. problem solved but so weird. (no door ding by the way so glad I didn't escalate).

I feel the same way here. Porsche is the woman who opened her door into my Taycan while both cars were rolling down the street and then walked away without acknowledging what just happened.
Good points, however the difference here is we are dealing with doubling the time to charge our cars at home so this will be an on going issue. I understand how some may feel starting a “fight” is not worth their time. However, others feel that Porsche should remedy the issue. Therefore I will initiate the action to see if I can force Porsche to remedy the issue for all owners. I am experienced doing this and happy to take the time to see what can be done thru warranty claim then arbitration.
 

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Porsche owner entitlement?! Jesus dude - they sold a virtually useless $2500 charger! Yea, I guess I do feel entitled to have it work or be replaced! As would any car owner; Porsche, GM, Hyundai or any make. Your mentality is Wacked!
Quick dose of reality. You paid $2500 for something you could buy for $700 from any number of manufacturers. Now it works less well. Charging your $150,000 car. Doesn’t seem like the end of the world to me, but I’ll dig out my pitchfork and join you in Stuttgart if it really matters to you.
 
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I don't blame people for being pissed. I am instead saying that you have to look at a bad situation and decide whether the benefits of fighting with a company outweigh the burdens of doing so.

It is sort of like being cut off on the road. Sure you are in the right that you should not have been cut off and you deserve an apology, but starting a fight actually makes you feel worse over the long run (despite the initial thrill) and the chances that you will get an apology, while not impossible, are pretty slim.

I like the idea of filing a warranty claim. I actually think that is a low cost means that might be more likely to succeed.

Sort of off topic, but I was driving my Taycan near Rittenhouse Square in Philly and I was in the farthest right-hand lane of a one-way, three-lane street and, while my car was moving at about 1-3 mph, the car in the middle lane suddenly opened their door into my car! I was in shock. You don't expect to get a door ding when you are actually driving your car on the road. The woman very clearly saw what she had done, my window was down, and I was waiting for an apology. She said nothing and started to walk away. The guy who was driving was looking straight ahead trying to ignore the situation, but with his window down too. I finally just exploded with a "Jesus Christ Man", which the woman heard, turned around, came back to me and said "Please do not take this out on him, that was all my fault and I'm very sorry." haha. ok. problem solved but so weird. (no door ding by the way so glad I didn't escalate).

I feel the same way here. Porsche is the woman who opened her door into my Taycan while both cars were rolling down the street and then walked away without acknowledging what just happened.
And how would you feel if she actually knocked off your side mirror which cost you $2500 to fix? You had no damage but if you did, wouldn't you have escalated?

I agree it is not worth my time to find attorney or waste much time pursuing this but just as you screamed at the woman to get a reaction and own it, I hope someone files a class action lawsuit and screams at Porsche too so they must own it and not only apologize but fix the damage, which has occurred. Glad Scotty will take this up and I support him!
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