Surprise!!! Here's an OTA update. Sorry about the cold pizza

[Pook]

I've not been keeping current with news so didn't know there was an update out there. Jumped in the car and popped along to the takeaway to pick up pizza. Jumped out there, got the food, jumped back in and ....

No warning, no pings, no needing to initiate the update via the console! A tad worrying!

Glad I wasn't parked in a pay-per-minute airport parking or hospital bay!

Anyway, for reference for others, it took it about 5 minutes to complete. As there's no indication of time, or progress bar it can get a bit worrying just waiting. When it's done it just switches off, but you can turn it back on after that (phew!)

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[daveo4EV]

They really really have to told everything? don't they? Yes OTA updates! No not without the user approving the vehicle to be "idle" while the update is being installed {sigh}

 

[ciaranob]

Yeah, this same update (I apparently missed!!) appears to have cobbled my LHS charge port from working - another owner from same dealership I learned today is experiencing said issue. Have tried multiple workarounds but apparently not resolvable so car going in on Sept 11 (earliest loaner available) to fix. The RHS charge port works just fine (AC EVSE) so not impeding use per se but as I mentioned on the OTA other thread, it is supremely ridiculous, and frankly pathetic coding, that we as owners of these vehicles cannot see a log of all/any update applied to our cars, to at the very least simply confirm that an update has been successfully applied or not! Just lame.

 

[W1NGE]

I've not been keeping current with news so didn't know there was an update out there. Jumped in the car and popped along to the takeaway to pick up pizza. Jumped out there, got the food, jumped back in and ....

No warning, no pings, no needing to initiate the update via the console! A tad worrying!

Glad I wasn't parked in a pay-per-minute airport parking or hospital bay!

Anyway, for reference for others, it took it about 5 minutes to complete. As there's no indication of time, or progress bar it can get a bit worrying just waiting. When it's done it just switches off, but you can turn it back on after that (phew!)

Was the pizza good?

 

[f1eng]

Anyway, for reference for others, it took it about 5 minutes to complete.

So about as long as it took you to eat the pizza ?

Just a joke, nobody eats in my car, including me.

 

[Jhenson29]

Just a joke, nobody eats in my car, including me.

My wife’s idea of a “snack for the road”:

 

[Pook]

Was the pizza good?

Haha ? Papa Johns. So about the same chance of bricking me, as the update bricking my car?

 

[Pook]

Yeah, this same update (I apparently missed!!) appears to have cobbled my LHS charge port from working - another owner from same dealership I learned today is experiencing said issue. Have tried multiple workarounds but apparently not resolvable so car going in on Sept 11 (earliest loaner available) to fix. The RHS charge port works just fine (AC EVSE) so not impeding use per se but as I mentioned on the OTA other thread, it is supremely ridiculous, and frankly pathetic coding, that we as owners of these vehicles cannot see a log of all/any update applied to our cars, to at the very least simply confirm that an update has been successfully applied or not! Just lame.

Yes I'm not a fan of applying updates automatically (Windows Update service remains disabled until I'm ready to update!) for many reasons. Inconveniece being one, update issues like you mentioned being another (including the risk of bricking). I prefer to wait for the dust to settle a bit first. I was under the impression automatic updates only included automatically downloading it, and that installs had to be initiated. I'm going to try and find that setting and disable it. (If it's anything like Windows, it will ignore me)

 

[whitex]

They really really have to told everything? don't they? Yes OTA updates! No not without the user approving the vehicle to be "idle" while the update is being installed {sigh}

The longer I own the product, the more convinced I am that nobody is running the show. All decisions are probably made by committees. I am seeing similar trend in the industry, Tesla will eat everyone's lunch, or perhaps, just like the supercharging network, Tesla will start licensing out their software to other auto manufacturers? Elon will let other manufacturers skin their UI's and customize within some limited scope, but in the end everyone will use "Tesla Inside" software and Tesla superchargers?

 

[whitex]

Yeah, this same update (I apparently missed!!) appears to have cobbled my LHS charge port from working - another owner from same dealership I learned today is experiencing said issue. Have tried multiple workarounds but apparently not resolvable so car going in on Sept 11 (earliest loaner available) to fix. The RHS charge port works just fine (AC EVSE) so not impeding use per se but as I mentioned on the OTA other thread, it is supremely ridiculous, and frankly pathetic coding, that we as owners of these vehicles cannot see a log of all/any update applied to our cars, to at the very least simply confirm that an update has been successfully applied or not! Just lame.

Evidently 110 engineers and all the automated HiL testing is insufficient to test an OTA. WTF?!? They barely changed the car since introduction, so it's like like Tesla that had 26 variants of hardware per year (and still managed to give their customers better OTA experience).

 

[ciaranob]

Yes I'm not a fan of applying updates automatically (Windows Update service remains disabled until I'm ready to update!) for many reasons. Inconveniece being one, update issues like you mentioned being another (including the risk of bricking). I prefer to wait for the dust to settle a bit first. I was under the impression automatic updates only included automatically downloading it, and that installs had to be initiated. I'm going to try and find that setting and disable it. (If it's anything like Windows, it will ignore me)

AFAIK the only updates you can turn off auto load for in the PCM are the infotainment updates (in settings) - don’t know if this by default includes effecting OTA updates pushed to the car but for some reason suspect not!

 

[W1NGE]

Yes I'm not a fan of applying updates automatically (Windows Update service remains disabled until I'm ready to update!) for many reasons. Inconveniece being one, update issues like you mentioned being another (including the risk of bricking). I prefer to wait for the dust to settle a bit first. I was under the impression automatic updates only included automatically downloading it, and that installs had to be initiated. I'm going to try and find that setting and disable it. (If it's anything like Windows, it will ignore me)

I would leave as is and not had an update such as the one you experienced which only downloaded and required user intervention to apply. These are the big ones and typically to be executed at home - thankfully these are as rare as hen's teeth.

Map, calendar and other PCM updates typically are set to be automatic but all can be overridden.

Not had this update so it may be targeted to certain VINs.

 

[dstepin92]

I just find it super weird that the map updates happen so often and always WHILE driving. Like... if you're going to update the map or the software maybe don't do it while I'm possibly using the navigation and on the road (since it does freeze and stop all navigation stuff while it does the quick update.) It's just so odd...

 

[whitex]

I just find it super weird that the map updates happen so often and always WHILE driving. Like... if you're going to update the map or the software maybe don't do it while I'm possibly using the navigation and on the road (since it does freeze and stop all navigation stuff while it does the quick update.) It's just so odd...

That is a complete fail by Porsche software in terms of user experience design. While the engineer validating the automatic fetching of new map tiles indeed wants to know every time the update succeeds, the end user couldn't care less. There is absolutely no reason to popup a message with an audible ding every time the PCM fetches new map data. I can see maybe if it failed to fetch data, but the driver really has no use whatsoever to know that it fetched new map tiles. They prevent the driver from reading text messages while driving, but hey, why not make the driver read a popup every 50 miles. My drive home from the dealer was 3,500 miles, the damned map update notifications annoyed me the whole way.

Things like this convince me Porsche doesn't actually do any user experience design, they just let the engineers implement whatever they feel is useful, but engineers will implement what is useful to them, not to an average driver. Another example of this is the charging settings interface.

 

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