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First long-haul trip in my 2022 Taycan GTS

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I took my first long-haul trip in my Taycan from Ann Arbor, Michigan, to Savannah, Georgia, for the Thanksgiving weekend. I was concerned that this trip would be littered with long lines and broken chargers along the way, but that was not the case.

I had a total of 5 charging stops in each direction. All but four stops were Electrify America charging stops (350kW and 150 kW), and because I have free charging, I didn’t pay anything for those. The other 4 were Circle K (400kW), ChargePoint (65kW), and two EVgo (350kW) charge locations. In only one location did I experience an EA 350kW charger being out, and only in one area did I experience any wait. In an EA location at a Walmart, I was 4th in line to charge, with one car fully charged that sat that charger the entire time I was there. Yes, it was a Chevy Bolt. I only waited for 30 minutes with only 3 of the chargers accessible, so that didn’t bother me at all.

I found it difficult initially to follow the Porsche Charge Planner advice to only fill the battery to whatever level they recommended. Still, as I started to trust it more, I realized it gave me good advice based on the charge cycle and time to top off to 85% - 90%. The max I charged to was 90%, but most, once I trusted the Charge Planner, was typically 70% - 75%.

In looking at the actual cost of electricity vs. gas, if I had to pay for the charger, that delta was essentially a wash, but because I didn’t pay for charging at most locations, I came out ahead. The total cost for charging was $111 for 2000 miles of driving. The total cost in my ICE would have been about $235 (just for gas, not considering the need for an oil change) at 30 miles per gallon. I averaged about 2.7 miles per kW. As it turned out, I got better “mileage” when I drove faster than when I went slower, which was a little surprising.

I spent about 50% of the time in Normal mode and 50% in Range mode. I tried to stay in cruise control but was often accelerating to make passes.

I had zero problems with the car. It started at about 6000 miles and finished at 8000 miles on the odometer. The drive on Wednesday and Sunday was brutal because of the holiday weekend. I spent a lot of time in bumper-to-bumper traffic and a fair amount of time at a standstill. Surprisingly, it didn’t bother me that much. The fact that I didn’t have to do much in an electric car made it easier than I think it would have been in my ICE car. It did add about 2.5 hours in each direction when I had to stop for charging versus the time I would have spent at a gas station. On the way home, I drove straight through, and that experience took about 22 hours because of the traffic. For context, only the first 10 hours were in heavy traffic because the last 12 hours were from 9:30p to 9:30a on a Sunday evening/Monday morning.

In summary, would I do it again? Absolutely! But I will never travel on a Thanksgiving holiday when my travel days are too close to the actual holiday. Tuesday before Thanksgiving (Thursday) was no issue, and Monday after the holiday was fine for traffic, but Wednesday and Sunday were BRUTAL! The EV experience was fantastic; I didn’t mind the charging stops because I got out of the car, stretched my legs, and took a bathroom break. The car was perfect and was a very comfortable ride, even for 22 hours on the road in one shot (I have the 18-way seats). Most of the complaints I saw online about crappy infrastructure and broken chargers were coming from the West Coast, and since my trip focused exclusively on the East Coast, I did not have those problems. Most charging locations had at least 2 or 3 chargers open after I plugged up. I also did not see much difference between using 350kW chargers and 150kW chargers. I would say that, at most, it cost me 10 minutes. I saw about 246kW from the 350kW chargers and about 160kW on average from the 150kW chargers. Also, I did love the Circle K 400kW charger that I got to use once. It averaged about 264kW and continued to feed a consistently higher kW amount through the charge cycle than I had seen on the Electrify America 350kW chargers. What I did notice throughout the trip is that the infrastructure does need to be built out. I had very few options if I were to experience “West Coast” problems. If I arrived at a location and the chargers were down, I probably would have been in deep kimchee. I would have loved more options along the way that would have gone a long way In relieving some of the anxiety I felt about taking that trip for the first time and on a holiday weekend.

All in all, you should do a long-haul trip yourself. My experience was good, and I’ll definitely consider doing more in the future.
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Thanks for the trip report. Out of curiosity, about what % SoC or miles remaining did you have when you arrived at charging stops enroute?
 
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Thanks for the trip report. Out of curiosity, about what % SoC or miles remaining did you have when you arrived at charging stops enroute?
I started at 10%, lowered to 7%, and once lowered to 3% when I wanted to skip a charging stop because it had me stopping at a slow charger. The recalculations were simple and accurate.
 

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Interesting reading. I’m planning a trans-European trip. Spain - UK - Italy - Spain over Christmas and New year. Ive been using ABRP which seems very good. The Porsche app appears to be less than useless as it defaults to some hyper - miling Taycan 4 with bicycle wheels. The power consumption is way too optimistic. Any GTS 21” owners able to give a consumption rate/range? ABRSM is set at 4.8km/kWH (~3m/kWH) @110kmh (68mph). Ive factored for max 110% and 140kmh. I’d like to fine tune this to plan the routes a bit better.

previous long journey i tried Range mode but wanted a higher speed so programmed Individual mode to lowest chassis setting. Any other tips?

in range mode cabin got a bit hot (summer trip) will range mode mean a cold cabin for this winter trip?
 

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First thing we did with our CT was drive home LA -Seattle. A bit of learning but no issues. 350 is nice but 150 is fast enough - don’t waste time hunting the faster ones. Our lunch stops usually ended up charging more than we need so kick back, have a good time and let the electrons flow! It also cost us $16 as we just had one stop where we didn’t use EA.
 


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Interesting reading. I’m planning a trans-European trip. Spain - UK - Italy - Spain over Christmas and New year. Ive been using ABRP which seems very good. The Porsche app appears to be less than useless as it defaults to some hyper - miling Taycan 4 with bicycle wheels. The power consumption is way too optimistic. Any GTS 21” owners able to give a consumption rate/range? ABRSM is set at 4.8km/kWH (~3m/kWH) @110kmh (68mph). Ive factored for max 110% and 140kmh. I’d like to fine tune this to plan the routes a bit better.

previous long journey i tried Range mode but wanted a higher speed so programmed Individual mode to lowest chassis setting. Any other tips?

in range mode cabin got a bit hot (summer trip) will range mode mean a cold cabin for this winter trip?
TLDR: Your real world range will vary a lot.

My data might help, might not. '23 GTS, on 20" wheels with Pirelli summer tires, most driving above 60F (18C). Just short of 9,000 miles with 75% accumulated on trips of more than 100 miles. My battery has degraded to 92.5% State of Health (80kWh usable battery capacity). The dash/GOM calculates to between 260 and 270 miles at 100%. That's probably accurate for "normal" driving. But since the GOM uses a "look back" to calculate estimated range the actual range and the car's projected range differ significantly depending on where you are headed.

On one leg of a recent trip the car projected 240 miles of range at the start of the day. It was colder (45/50F), gaining elevation, with a lot of braking and accelerating (almost no straight roads). I couldn't make 200 miles (actual was just under 2.4 miles/kWh). However on the last leg of the trip the projected range was somehow back to 240 miles. That day's drive was warmer and losing elevation. The car reported 3.8m/kWh which was actually the true figure and an actual range of 300 miles. No real surprise that the driving conditions will effect range and since the car uses recent past consumption it might not be the most accurate predicting the upcoming drive. My Porsche has my lifetime consumption at 3.5m/kWh. Actual is 3.25 so I always go a little conservative on what the car projects.

I would say that ABRP does a slightly better job of predicting range and planning stops than the PCM does (and I have the Porsche Intelligent Range Manager) as long as you adjust the settings for the expected driving conditions. Headed up the Italian Alps? Go conservative on the settings. Headed down? Regen will get you farther than the car projects.

From what I understand of the charging infrastructure in the EU you will have no problems at all. The car is a superb long distance cruiser. I never arrive feeling beaten up by the drive.
 

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My battery has degraded to 92.5
Just curious, how do you know? Sounds pretty high degradation for such mileage.

My Polestar 2 I estimate at 95% health based on GOM when charged 100%. And that is after 2y/110.000km and almost every day charging to 100%.
 

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Just curious, how do you know? Sounds pretty high degradation for such mileage.

My Polestar 2 I estimate at 95% health based on GOM when charged 100%. And that is after 2y/110.000km and almost every day charging to 100%.
Just get a Bluetooth OBD dongle and the Car Scanner app. Reads the SoH that the car reports. Some discussion on how accurate this reading is but probably within 2%+/- versus the results from the two day test the dealer can perform. Long thread on battery SoH and how it degrades - https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/baseline-for-hv-battery-soh-performance.12815/
 


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On one leg of a recent trip the car projected 240 miles of range at the start of the day. It was colder (45/50F), gaining elevation, with a lot of braking and accelerating (almost no straight roads). I couldn't make 200 miles (actual was just under 2.4 miles/kWh).
Interesting observation! When you did both of these estimates, did you have your destination programmed in the PCM and read the GOM from the display?

I have found that the GOM varies a lot if I go down to the coast or up in the mountains with a destination set. Without destination one value, considerably longer when going down to the coast and vice versa. The elevation change is bout 500 meters in both cases.
 

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Interesting observation! When you did both of these estimates, did you have your destination programmed in the PCM and read the GOM from the display?

I have found that the GOM varies a lot if I go down to the coast or up in the mountains with a destination set. Without destination one value, considerably longer when going down to the coast and vice versa. The elevation change is bout 500 meters in both cases.
Yes, I input the destination for each leg of my trip in at the start of the day. GOM on the dash did not change from before to after the route was calculated. The PCM (dash display) either didn't adjust for the conditions ahead or thought those conditions were similar to recent past driving. On the drive where my actual range fell short of 200 miles the elevation gain was approx 1,200 meters and the GOM never budged from a range of 240 miles when the route was input. The estimated charge remaining on reaching my destination did adjust (lower and lower) as the drive progressed so that was reacting in real time.
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