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[Electron]

I agree that high recuperation would be undesirable. If I want recuperation, I’ll modulate the brake pedal.

Removal of VMAX…I’ll never go that fast and don’t want the car to go that fast, so I see no reason to change it, but would never know if it was.

Throttle response is the big question. If it were only different in Sport mode, then I’d do it. I’m suspecting it will make the car a bit twitchy for normal driving in all modes and definitely don’t want that. More details on exactly how throttle response is different would be helpful in deciding.

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[unbiased]

I like the smooth acceleration of the taycan. Especially in city driving. If I need full power I just floor it.

 

[simcity]

Can these various options be tailored to activate / restricted to particular drive modes please @redshift-performance ?

 

[Mr.Smith]

I agree that high recuperation would be undesirable. If I want recuperation, I’ll modulate the brake pedal.

Removal of VMAX…I’ll never go that fast and don’t want the car to go that fast, so I see no reason to change it, but would never know if it was.

Throttle response is the big question. If it were only different in Sport mode, then I’d do it. I’m suspecting it will make the car a bit twitchy for normal driving in all modes and definitely don’t want that. More details on exactly how throttle response is different would be helpful in deciding.

The throttle response is a must. The owner of the Turbo S kept it stock, then drove my RS E-Tron GT, came back to my house and had Mario immediately make his the most aggressive.
If you don't mash the throttle, the throttle response feels the same. The torque comes on more instantly, but it still doesn't feel as aggressive as other EVs.

I drove a i5M60 which is much slower than my car, but if felt significantly faster than mine because of the instant power delivery. Even with the throttle response at its most aggressive, you don't get that on our cars because J1 platform is a high speed car that gradually delivers power.
It's definitely not twitchy.

I chose to remove the filter for the throttle on all modes.

In terms of Vmax, it made a difference for me because I do drive faster and its nice to have that little extra. Why not have it available if even if it's never used?
With the extra HP you will get to Vmax much quicker than you think

If anyone is in SoCal, DM me to drive my car to feel the difference for yourself

 

[Electron]

I chose to remove the filter for the throttle on all modes.

Is there an option to remove the filter in only some modes?

 

[Mr.Smith]

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Is there an option to remove the filter in only some modes?

I recall asking me if I wanted the filter removed for all modes, so yes

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

The throttle response is a must. The owner of the Turbo S kept it stock, then drove my RS E-Tron GT, came back to my house and had Mario immediately make his the most aggressive.
If you don't mash the throttle, the throttle response feels the same. The torque comes on more instantly, but it still doesn't feel as aggressive as other EVs.

I drove a i5M60 which is much slower than my car, but if felt significantly faster than mine because of the instant power delivery. Even with the throttle response at its most aggressive, you don't get that on our cars because J1 platform is a high speed car that gradually delivers power.
It's definitely not twitchy.

I chose to remove the filter for the throttle on all modes.

In terms of Vmax, it made a difference for me because I do drive faster and its nice to have that little extra. Why not have it available if even if it's never used?
With the extra HP you will get to Vmax much quicker than you think

If anyone is in SoCal, DM me to drive my car to feel the difference for yourself

I have owned 3 different Teslas over the past 5 years and the throttle response on the Taycan TS was my biggest letdown the first time I drove one. It felt even slower than the base SR+ RWD Tesla Model 3 (obviously not the case especially after a second of pushing down the throttle).
I have not had the car feel twitchy or difficult to modulate throttle even in the Plaid, so I doubt the unfiltered throttle will be anywhere near hard to drive smoothly.

I would have done this mod for just the unfiltered throttle alone, though I wouldn't have been able to justify the cost for that option alone. The added available power outside of LC makes it a bt more worthwhile.

 

[Mr.Smith]

I have owned 3 different Teslas over the past 5 years and the throttle response on the Taycan TS was my biggest letdown the first time I drove one. It felt even slower than the base SR+ RWD Tesla Model 3 (obviously not the case especially after a second of pushing down the throttle).
I have not had the car feel twitchy or difficult to modulate throttle even in the Plaid, so I doubt the unfiltered throttle will be anywhere near hard to drive smoothly.

I would have done this mod for just the unfiltered throttle alone, though I wouldn't have been able to justify the cost for that option alone. The added available power outside of LC makes it a bt more worthwhile.

Exactly! The Etron GT is even worse. I punched it and a second later I get this really gradual power delivery to make the car feel more like a GT than a sports car. It makes it feel slow, like an ICE.
I know its software related so I asked Mario if he can look into this. He is very open these suggestions and eventually found the "Drivabilty Adaptation" setting and the high regen setting.

Drivabilty adaption is the Filter that is more aggressive for the Taycan compared to the Etron GT. When completly removing the filter, you get the full throttle response instantly. Now the Taycan and the Etron will feel the same when both have the dribality adaption filter removed

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

Drivabilty adaption is the Filter that is more aggressive for the Taycan compared to the Etron GT. When completly removing the filter, you get the full throttle response instantly. Now the Taycan and the Etron will feel the same when both have the dribality adaption filter removed

Your phrasing implies this is an adjustable setting? (That is, beyond "on" and "off"?)

Honestly this is my only open question; I don't really care about vmax or increased regen, but I absolutely don't want to deal with a twitchy car in rush hour traffic. Since you revealed earlier (thanks!) that the setting can be per mode, I think I'd want "unfiltered" in S+, "80% nuts" in S, and unchanged (or "tad more nuts") in Normal.

 

[Mr.Smith]

Your phrasing implies this is an adjustable setting? (That is, beyond "on" and "off"?)

Honestly this is my only open question; I don't really care about vmax or increased regen, but I absolutely don't want to deal with a twitchy car in rush hour traffic. Since you revealed earlier (thanks!) that the setting can be per mode, I think I'd want "unfiltered" in S+, "80% nuts" in S, and unchanged (or "tad more nuts") in Normal.

There are different levels of Drivabilty adaption. The most aggressive would be No Filter or as Mario and his developer call it "The Paul Smith Special"
You can keep the throttle response the same, increase a little or no filter (most aggressive).

 

[stormrider762]

I have owned 3 different Teslas over the past 5 years and the throttle response on the Taycan TS was my biggest letdown the first time I drove one. It felt even slower than the base SR+ RWD Tesla Model 3 (obviously not the case especially after a second of pushing down the throttle).
I have not had the car feel twitchy or difficult to modulate throttle even in the Plaid, so I doubt the unfiltered throttle will be anywhere near hard to drive smoothly.

I would have done this mod for just the unfiltered throttle alone, though I wouldn't have been able to justify the cost for that option alone. The added available power outside of LC makes it a bt more worthwhile.

Same. Coming from a 2022 M3 with acceleration boost, I was let down by the Taycan throttle response even in Sport mode. C&D claimed 3.4 0-60 on the 4S, Porsche says 3.7 I believe - the 3 w/acceleration boost is quoted at 3.7 0-60 and felt much faster than the Taycan (even though Taycan the same or quicker off the line with LC).

I added a PedalBox last week to hold me over until I get the RS tune. Holy cow the car came alive, feels almost identical to my Tesla off the line in the "sport plus" setting, but much more powerful when pulling at highway speeds. I am seeing the general consensus is that the RS tune is worth the $ to just have the always-available full power without LC plus better throttle response.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

There are different levels of Drivabilty adaption. The most aggressive would be No Filter or as Mario and his developer call it "The Paul Smith Special"
You can keep the throttle response the same, increase a little or no filter (most aggressive).

Got it; I'll ask for "the Mr. Smith special for the MatrixSportPlus mode" then.

 

[Electron]

There are different levels of Driveabilty Adaption.
You can keep the throttle response the same, increase a little or no filter (most aggressive).

Based on the way this is described, there is one Driveability Adaption setting that applies to all drive modes, and not a unique Driveability Adaption for each drive mode.

 

[Mr.Smith]

Based on the way this is described, there is one Driveability Adaption setting that applies to all drive modes, and not a unique Driveability Adaption for each drive mode.

Its not a different one for each mode, but the adjusted adaption for all modes or just set to one mode, the rest stock, as an example. I recall Mario asking it for Dynamic (Taycans Sport mode) or all modes. I chose all modes

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

From what I understand, correct me if I am wrong, the unfiltered response does not remap the throttle settings. It simply removes the throttle adaptations that come from factory to muffle your throttle input based on a couple hundred miles of driving.
Basically like an ICE car that does transmission adaptation, and how strong the throttle response is based on your driving. This removes that learning ability and makes it the way Porsche would have set it up from the factory

So Normal will still be normal but feel more brisk, Sport will be sport, Sport Plus will still be sport Plus, with no changes even after a few hundred miles. Since its set to max, you will feel a little more response than just how it came from the factory, but remember the actual throttle maps are not changed.

One of the things I intend to do when I do this mod is to describe what the unfiltered response feels like with the car as is vs with the ECU reset vs with the unfiltered response.

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