2024 Model 3 Performance

[Cowtownhusker]

You didn't mention exterior fit and finish.

The paint job on my 2018 Model 3 drove me crazy. The unpainted primed areas on the hinge side of the front door jambs made it look like the car was poorly repaired after an accident. Bird droppings would dissolve the clear coat. Fortunately, I was able to repair the finish before trading the car using a $300 paint correction "kit" from Griot's Garage. Porsche definitely wins this category.

The superior fit and finish alone on the Porsche was not reason enough to keep my Taycan. I don't regret trading it after 11 months of ownership before used EV prices collapsed. Unfortunately, I did not escape the steep depreciation plaguing EVs. The retail value of my 20-month old EQS SUV with 40K miles is less than half of its original MSRP.

I genuinely regret not getting a Cayenne or Panamera when I purchased the Taycan CT in 2021.

If it makes you feel better, my panamera 4S ST depreciated about as fast as my taycan. I was hyped as the market had limited inventory, so I thought I would be good. Dealer/private consigner said there weren't many around because no one bought them when they were new.

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[DerekS]

I can see an insurance problem with the roof crack and the insurer arguing whether it is a manufacturing defect or accident. But I've never had a claim where the insurer refused to pay out what what was quoted for the repair. Is insurers doing this some sort of American thing? Anytime I've had damage, the insurance company takes the car away, organises the repair and returns it back to me. I've not had to get quotes or negotiate a price.

They never disputed covering it, they just refused to pay Porsche’s price.

 

[mystermykee]

Ps. I've also had X, YP 2023, 3P 2019, Taycan etc. And a lot of fossile cars.

The 2024 3P is much more refined than the old 2019 3P. I do have one 3P from China. Fit, finish, paint, detailing was perfect. In Europe you can tow 500kg with new 3P also. So ok for a bike.

Finally! Someone who doesn't refer to a Model 3 as an M3 or M3P!

 

[SHM]

Exactly my struggle.

The new red one however, wont look to common - with the refresh.

One thing to consider is that since its so "cheap" you can buy one 3P refresh + you can buy a classic Porsche 911 and still have money for beer

 

[mikezhang31]

Do you have a plan to resolve that stalemate when there’s a big gap between what insurance will pay and what the dealer demands? Are you prepared to be without the car for a lengthy period while they pout at each other?

I had this happened once with a car I owned... I bought an used 911 to use during the 2 year while the insurance and the body shop went at it, then sued my insurance for loss of use, and ended the 2 year with the car fully repaired, made 15k on the 911 when I sold it, and then made enough profit on the lawsuit to take a free 10 day african safari lol

 

[Longy_UK]

I'm always confused by these threads... You have insurance right? GAP too? All of these 'repair costs' will never be paid by the owner, its simply a fault claim if you damage the underside of the car... They may not want to pay 'Porsche's price' that's quite common as they have an approved repair network although if no one else can do the work they'll indeed pay the Porsche price. Worst case they write it off; and you use your back to invoice GAP.

Again, as is always the case on these forums the Taycan is compared to far cheaper mainstream cars. Too much acquisition of £100k+ cars by people not used to them as the incentives were so good.

My C8 RS6 had a very common suspension (DRC) fault that cost circa £20k to fix. Did I jump ship out of fear? No I just had good insurance and the car had warranty. I mean on the same car there is a risk of a cam chain failure; this could cost circa £45k..... And i would hazard a guess this has happened many more times than a dint on the bottom of a taycan.

 

[DerekS]

I'm always confused by these threads... You have insurance right? GAP too? All of these 'repair costs' will never be paid by the owner,

I'm living proof that you're wrong, at least here in America.

Of course I have insurance. Here, gap insurance only covers the difference between what you owe and what the car is worth, according to the insurance company. It's a hedge in case you total the car and insurance says it's worth less than the balance on your note.

I have no note, so no gap.

 

[OutrightPace]

Derek, at the risk of getting booed out of this forum, I'll ask have you ever looked at a Lucid? I have currently leased one after getting tired of my Model 3 and reluctantly giving up on my Taycan Turbo S, and I am really enjoying it.

It certainly has some software quirks, but the overall level of EV engineering is really impressive. It is a major step up from a Model 3 in terms of driving experience, and I definitely get more attention in it than I did in my Taycan. Its styling is somewhat polarizing, but it definitely has presence and there are very few on the road. Customer service has been very good, and they have mobile service available. They also have some great deals at the moment. Something to consider at least...

 

[violuma]

there are very few on the road

At least for the most recent time period where there is official data (2024 Q1), the number of new Lucids and new Taycans sold around here is virtually identical.

Customer service has been very good, and they have mobile service available.

I thought about it, in part because their corporate HQ is nearby, but part of shifting to an EV for me was a statement that I wanted to stop shoveling money in the direction of Saudi Arabia.

 

[Zcd1]

Garnet Red 1986 Porsche 911 Cabriolet + a Super Red Model 3P with some nice wheels (Stance SF-03 Forged, for instance) would be a nice driveway pairing!

 

[Caraholic]

I am kind of at the same place as you. However I’m going for either a CT5V Blackwing or the Ioniq 5N.

 

[Caraholic]

Any thoughts on the Lotus Emeya …

I don’t trust Porsche for reliability no way on earth would I trust lotus.

 

[Caraholic]

Absolutely this! As well as what another poster said above - I don’t look at (or, fortunately, need to look at) cars as an investment. We have many other things for that: our businesses, real estate, stocks, etc. cars are FUN for me. Much more than just something to get to work in - I enjoy the experience.

Coming from muscle cars in the Scat Pack and Hellcat, to a Tesla and now into the Taycan 4S, I couldn’t imagine going back to the “old days” of when I just got what I could afford to drive me to work. When I car shop, I’m looking for an experience- something that makes me grin behind the wheel and take a glance back when walking away. The Taycan absolutely does that in spades. I was in the same boat looking for something that would give that feeling for the next 5-10 years.

With the CPO warranty, battery warranty and option to extend the Porsche coverage in 4 years when my CPO coverage expires, I have almost zero concerns with any expensive repairs that may come up. At worst pay a deductible, and I feel confident that considering we are talking about cars in the 6 figure range - pretty much all of us can swing the $500-$1000 deductible payment in a worse case scenario!

Life is short! Drive what gives you butterflies behind the wheel and have no regrets my friends.

while I completely agree with this. What you’re not taking into account is the amount of time you will be without your vehicle. Which brings a lot of frustration.

 

[Porsche-Guru]

I don’t trust Porsche for reliability no way on earth would I trust lotus.

Is the lack of trust in Porsche as an 'automative brand as a whole' or mainly because of the specific issues with the Taycan model?

 

[Caraholic]

Is the lack of trust in Porsche as an 'automative brand as a whole' or mainly because of the specific issues with the Taycan model?

No just with the Taycan. All my other Porsches have been fantastic. Which is a shame as it has really soured my impression of the brand lately. The absorbent price increases have also put me off the brand. None of the new cars are worth the price to me anymore outside the GT4RS and Spyder RS.

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