USA - Will the NACS Port be STANDARD in 2026 ?

[daveo4EV]

350KW is the "up to" limit for EA, not a guarantee. When traveling in a Taycan, I have gotten 250KW+ probably 10% of the time. Other times 125KW-175KW seemed to be the norm, which is not horrible for long distance travel. On a bright side, limiting to under 100KW has been rare at the EA chargers I visited. The lowest DC charge rate I remember was 60KW.

but the 350's won't even communicate with my Macan to start a session - it's horrible…

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[whitex]

but the 350's won't even communicate with my Macan to start a session - it's horrible…

Oh, I never experienced that. I did on a couple of occasions get a failure, but I found most times re-plugging it in made it work.

Have you had ANY 350KW EA work? I wonder if there is some Macan software issue. Also, while charging from adjacent 150KW plugs, did you see anyone else successfully using the 350's?

 

[daveo4EV]

Oh, I never experienced that. I did on a couple of occasions get a failure, but I found most times re-plugging it in made it work.

Have you had ANY 350KW EA work? I wonder if there is some Macan software issue. Also, while charging from adjacent 150KW plugs, did you see anyone else successfully using the 350's?

one of the 5 350 kW sites I've visited have worked - and I've tired replugging - different cables and holding gthe CCS1 connector during the hand shake…

the 350's have so far refused to talk to my Macan or even notice they are plugged in - even thought the Macan flashes it's pulsing white light acknowledging a cable is plugged in…

it's very odd…

 

[daveo4EV]

just got station #8 to "work" for me in Albuquerque - but it wouldn't even try plug&charge - and I had to use the EA app to start the session (which also means I'm being billed for it)…but it works

can't test the speed - cause I have a very high SOC from the 150 kW charge session…but it's functional - hmmmm…

the EA 350 stations are a problem!!

 

[whitex]

just got station #8 to "work" for me in Albuquerque - but it wouldn't even try plug&charge - and I had to use the EA app to start the session (which also means I'm being billed for it)…but it works

can't test the speed - cause I have a very high SOC from the 150 kW charge session…but it's functional - hmmmm…

the EA 350 stations are a problem!!

Hmmm... Since this is a Taycan forum, looking at it from a Taycan owner's perspective, you're telling us we won't have to compete for the 350KW plugs with the new Macans?

 

[Jonathan S.]

The especially discouraging aspect is how that roadtrip covers so many different regions so the problems can’t be attributed to just concentrated local use or a slacker maintenance contractor etc.

EA in New England has recently installed some stations that appear to be functional. So far. Still waiting for that other shoe to drop! But the new six-units stations in Merrimack NH and Lee MA receive consistently good PlugShare reviews.
Will be interesting to see how the four replaced chargers in West Lebanon NH hold up against heavy use.

Will be awhile until I get to test any of those!
I had really been looking forward to using the new Magic Docks in Vergennes VT since they are perfectly situated for complicated travel plans on Thanksgiving Day.
Oh well, hope I get to see my Taycan again after tomorrow by … the end of the calendar year?

 

[daveo4EV]

The especially discouraging aspect is how that roadtrip covers so many different regions so the problems can’t be attributed to just concentrated local use or a slacker maintenance contractor etc.

EA in New England has recently installed some stations that appear to be functional. So far. Still waiting for that other shoe to drop! But the new six-units stations in Merrimack NH and Lee MA receive consistently good PlugShare reviews.
Will be interesting to see how the four replaced chargers in West Lebanon NH hold up against heavy use.

Will be awhile until I get to test any of those!
I had really been looking forward to using the new Magic Docks in Vergennes VT since they are perfectly situated for complicated travel plans on Thanksgiving Day.
Oh well, hope I get to see my Taycan again after tomorrow by … the end of the calendar year?

the real issue for me has been the "trial/error" aspect of it - when it doesn't work you have to move stalls to try another one - if you're the only car there this is less of a problem but if the other working stall's were occupied it could easily spiral into hours of delay while I wait for the working stalls to become un-occupied - and if while you're waiting more EV's arrive since there is no clear queueing mechanism it could get to be quite frustrating

you could envision some very easy line jumping scenarios

given my experience in the past 48 hours on HWY 40 west - and how I've never gotten more than 175 kW @ EA - give me a functional 150 kW Supercharger that actually works and more than 4 stalls - and that's a superior charging experience…EA 350 kW is vaporware…pure and simple. The EA 150 kW stations have been quite reliable and fuss free - and have carried the day and provided the electrons for most of the 1562 miles I've covered so far…

EVGo I've had good luck with - 197 kW @ one of their 350 kW stations - that was a great session - and far less dramatic to actually get the session going…

EA is just soooo bad…

 

[Tooney]

@daveo4EV You must be doing something wrong:

 

[daveo4EV]

@daveo4EV You must be doing something wrong:

you are correct it's all me! I know that now - I'm simply not peddling hard enough at the provided bikes at the EA stations…

 

[daveo4EV]

The especially discouraging aspect is how that roadtrip covers so many different regions so the problems can’t be attributed to just concentrated local use or a slacker maintenance contractor etc.

EA in New England has recently installed some stations that appear to be functional. So far. Still waiting for that other shoe to drop! But the new six-units stations in Merrimack NH and Lee MA receive consistently good PlugShare reviews.
Will be interesting to see how the four replaced chargers in West Lebanon NH hold up against heavy use.

Will be awhile until I get to test any of those!
I had really been looking forward to using the new Magic Docks in Vergennes VT since they are perfectly situated for complicated travel plans on Thanksgiving Day.
Oh well, hope I get to see my Taycan again after tomorrow by … the end of the calendar year?

also interesting to me - is that given EA's spacing on HWY 40 and my effective range - it's not like I'm skipping over the "working" EA stations and just encountering the "the problem ones" - I have had to sample _EVERY_ EA site on HWY 40 west - each and every one has:

• presented activation problems
• had at least one non-functional stall - normally 1/2 of the stalls have some sort of problem
• not delivered advertised charging rates for the 350 kW stations
• required me to move stalls from my initial choice to gain a successful charge

I've sampled 1400 miles of EA charging "coverage" - and it's woefully bad - and all along the way I have "seen" but can not yet use Tesla superchargers - which are:

• better located
• have more stalls
• have fewer stalls non-functional
• would probably present fewer activation problems
• offer similar effective charge rates given the piss-poor 350 kW stall performance I've witnessed first hand.

 

[Jonathan S.]

Yipes, that sounds even worse for EA that I would have thought along corridors like that.
Perhaps somewhat related, EA still has not published its final investment cycle report to EPA for the 49 states, even though that cycle started this past July.
By contrast, the CA-only report for CARB was published back in October -- of 2023.

 

[whitex]

@daveo4EV You must be doing something wrong:

Hmm.... obviously the picture above is not the CCS fast-E Station mentioned in the footprint #2, so perhaps the car pictured is also not related to the foot print either. That footprint seems to be about some unspecified EV at some other charger. Maybe from a Taycan GT on an DC charger at a Porsche Experience Center?

 

[PSUEric]

Dave this is so disappointing! I’ve had nothing but positive experiences at 350 EA units on the east coast, the latest it was raining so I sat in the car while charging and was shocked I was gaining a mile every 5 to 6 seconds in my 24 CT. Out of Spec did a ‘race’ across I90 with multiple vehicles and the group commented how much better the charging environment was today than just a few years ago. Certainly appears based on your experiences, that is not true. Access to Telsa Superchargers can’t come soon enough…

 

[gtm]

Dave this is so disappointing! I’ve had nothing but positive experiences at 350 EA units on the east coast, the latest it was raining so I sat in the car while charging and was shocked I was gaining a mile every 5 to 6 seconds in my 24 CT. Out of Spec did a ‘race’ across I90 with multiple vehicles and the group commented how much better the charging environment was today than just a few years ago. Certainly appears based on your experiences, that is not true. Access to Telsa Superchargers can’t come soon enough…

What the Out of Spec narration said and what they experienced didn't quite match up. If you watch the charging sessions there were an awful lot of switching from tower to tower to get a charge, and a fair amount of de-rated or inoperative chargers. The first 2/3 of their of their travel through sparsely populated areas and the middle of the night charging made it so crowding wasn't a big problem. But there were a lot of charging sessions with issues. Based on what I regularly experience on the East coast interstates matches @daveo4EV. Not truly horrendous but not close to good. Interesting that some of their best charging sessions were at Flying J/Pilot. There is hope as the professional "energy dispensers" start installing EV charging stations.

 

[daveo4EV]

What the Out of Spec narration said and what they experienced didn't quite match up. If you watch the charging sessions there were an awful lot of switching from tower to tower to get a charge, and a fair amount of de-rated or inoperative chargers. The first 2/3 of their of their travel through sparsely populated areas and the middle of the night charging made it so crowding wasn't a big problem. But there were a lot of charging sessions with issues. Based on what I regularly experience on the East coast interstates matches @daveo4EV. Not truly horrendous but not close to good. Interesting that some of their best charging sessions were at Flying J/Pilot. There is hope as the professional "energy dispensers" start installing EV charging stations.

the _ONLY_ charging session I've had so far with the Macan EV that was more than 150 kW was the sole EVGo charging session at a Flying J - activation was easy/smooth - and charging was ample and very high rate…if EA was this good we'd all be dancing in the streets and never using Superchargers or caring.

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