Gen 1 battery replaced with Gen 2 battery

[prj]

240 miles is common on j1.1 based on driving habits and temperature.

Not on a Turbo S CT, all stars have to align to get a such range.

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[ct14garage]

Not on a Turbo S CT, all stars have to align to get a such range.

That’s god’s punishment for having awful taste and buying a station wagon ?

(sorry couldn’t resist ?)

 

[subsalsa]

From the Porsche newsroom on the J1.2..
"The bottom plate of the battery was converted from aluminium to glass fibre-reinforced plastic (GFRP) ".
Would looking under the car give a clue?

 

[Caraholic]

Believe my part number is 9J1915EX. Will know for sure later this week or next. Believe this is a gen 1 battery though dealer said it has all the 1.2 cells in it. So no clue. Have a feeling no one inside the dealer network is getting the 1.2 battery yet.

 

[chun]

From the Porsche newsroom on the J1.2..
"The bottom plate of the battery was converted from aluminium to glass fibre-reinforced plastic (GFRP) ".
Would looking under the car give a clue?

They won't replace the actual enclosure, just the modules, I would suspect.

 

[prj]

They won't replace the actual enclosure, just the modules, I would suspect.

No they replace the full battery and use an adapter kit.
This whole J1.2 modules is bullshit talk.

I don't think anyone here has the J1.2 battery.

 

[Solid]

No they replace the full battery and use an adapter kit.
This whole J1.2 modules is bullshit talk.

I don't think anyone here has the J1.2 battery.

Agreed. Based on the part numbers Porsche continues to supply remanufactured J1.1 skids, which they obviously would not do if they were forcing dealers to follow that TSB. If they were doing this by sticking 1.2 modules into a 1.1 skid (making the huge assumption that this is even possible) then the TSB wouldn't talk about installing updated 1.2 mounts for the skid or the coolant pipe adapter.

Edit: and if it was a 1.2 module in 1.1 hack then why would I have very shortly thereafter have gotten the AR6/7 notice for my "new" skid?

 

[prj]

There is no "remanufacturing". The used cells are only used in repairs of existing batteries.
When you get a new battery all cells are new. They have a lot of batteries in stock still, but they saw that they will run out, so they created a solution in advance for when that happens.
Until every single J1.1 battery is out of stock for a given region nobody is going to get a J1.2. At least not for Porsche's money.

An X part is not a "remanufactured" part, I don't know where that started from. It means exchange - a price reduction in return for giving your old one back.
The J1.2 modules in J1.1 battery is another myth.

I posted the part numbers for the J1.2 battery here. If you get any other battery installed you're getting a new J1.1 battery, and that's it.

 

[Solid]

There is no "remanufacturing". The used cells are only used in repairs of existing batteries.
When you get a new battery all cells are new. They have a lot of batteries in stock still, but they saw that they will run out, so they created a solution in advance for when that happens.
Until every single J1.1 battery is out of stock for a given region nobody is going to get a J1.2.

An X part is not a "remanufactured" part, I don't know where that started from. It means exchange - a price reduction in return for giving your old one back.
The J1.2 modules in J1.1 battery is another myth.

I posted the part numbers for the J1.2 battery here. If you get any other battery installed you're getting a new J1.1 battery, and that's it.

Admittedly it is a guess but there is a core charge for the entire assembly and it makes sense to reuse the skid. By remanufacture I meant taking the skid and replacing all the modules with new ones. I was not referring to the in-place repair where they replace just a few bad modules in the assembly that would have this replacement skid be a hybrid of new and old modules. I assume the modules from any returned assembly go to a recycler unless they have a specific reason to tear them down for fault finding.

I could certainly be wrong. Maybe they really are just swapping entire new assemblies and discarding the old skids too.

 

[prj]

Admittedly it is a guess but there is a core charge for the entire assembly and it makes sense to reuse the skid. By remanufacture I meant taking the skid and replacing all the modules with new ones. I was not referring to the in-place repair where they replace just a few bad modules in the assembly. I assume the modules from any returned assembly go to a recycler unless they have a specific reason to tear them down for fault finding.

It's not reused because no J1.1 batteries can be made anymore, and also since there has been water intrusion in many of them.
It's recycled. EU gives you a pretty nasty fine if you don't recycle stuff properly, so that's why.

There is no difference between an X and non-X part. Both are exactly the same. In one case you get a discount for returning your old part in the other case you don't.
The new battery is exactly that - brand new. "Remanufactured" is not the correct legal term here.

 

[D00notD00d]

Edit: and if it was a 1.2 module in 1.1 hack then why would I have very shortly thereafter have gotten the AR6/7 notice for my "new" skid?

Recalls may be just prod date/VIN based, rather than part number/version based.

 

[Caraholic]

Well I have received my turbo back from the dealer with the supposed new battery. Don’t think it really is but they swear it is. So far after the dealer did three full drive cycles my range is indicated at 310miles in normal mode.

 

[chun]

Well I have received my turbo back from the dealer with the supposed new battery. Don’t think it really is but they swear it is. So far after the dealer did three full drive cycles my range is indicated at 310miles in normal mode.

Would be simple to be seen by a vin service check by @ct14garage or maybe even with MapEV software from @prj

 

[Solid]

Your range at full is different from mine after the battery was replaced in February. Mine shows 275.

 

[Alib]

My CPO 4S had a coolant failure. Upon viewing the pan, it was found to be improperly jacked up, with visible marks that caused damage to the coolant fins. Initially, the repair dealer warned that the repair would be costly, but I pointed out that the CPO car had just been purchased after reviewing records and photos, including the lack thereof. Porsche North America was contacted. It looks like the selling dealer will be on the hook for the repairs. The service manager said Porsche NA would be ordering a J1.2 pack to replace it, and it would take at least 2 weeks to ship. When I asked if the pack was a rebuild, he said it uses a new pan that is more resistant to these crushing damages. He said he would expect that most, if not all, pouches would be J1.2, but would not know until the pack was delivered. His positive spin was that charging to 85% on the J1 pack was more like 75% on a J1.2.

When I asked if the J1.2 pack could be programmed to release all its power, he said that would void the warranty, but did not rule out that Porsche might offer an option at a cost to do so, like Tesla.

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