Fake gear shifts coming to 2027 Taycan (and big PCM update)!

[Bognar67]

I have a BMW I4 with B mode and I really don’t like the soft throttle pedal, and was continuously thinking about that why BMW did it. Takes away lots of sensitiveness.
I never thought about it up to your post. Now I understand why it is needed to implement.
Personally for me releasing the throttle pedal continuously and adjusting for breaking is more tiring than using the brake pedal.
I had a Tesla for four years but happily turned back to breaking.

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[whitex]

So apart from a software feature you would need to have a completely different pedal feel - swappable springs or something of the nature inside the pedal.

New option idea - "Porsche Active Accelerator Pedal (PAAD)" with active dynamic dampening - as soft or as hard as you want it, could even implement the Audi style boost instead of push-to-pass as a software enabled feature (my wife's eTron accelerator has a "bump" towards the full throttle, pushing past it enables the available overboost).

 

[whitex]

Let's not forget that one pedal driving may get banned, at least as the only available mode. It already is banned in one very large market (again, banned as default mode, meaning the cars with one-pedal-driving cannot offer it as the only mode).
https://www.jalopnik.com/2017268/what-is-one-pedal-driving-why-china-banning/

 

[prj]

Let's not forget that one pedal driving may get banned, at least as the only available mode. It already is banned in one very large market (again, banned as default mode, meaning the cars with one-pedal-driving cannot offer it as the only mode).
https://www.jalopnik.com/2017268/what-is-one-pedal-driving-why-china-banning/

Yes, and that's why the newest teslas now finally have blended brakes.

 

[prj]

I have a BMW I4 with B mode and I really don’t like the soft throttle pedal, and was continuously thinking about that why BMW did it. Takes away lots of sensitiveness.
I never thought about it up to your post. Now I understand why it is needed to implement.

Exactly. Porsche is considered more sporty so they made the accelerator pedal for the most accurate control, and not soft and mushy.
This meant giving up one pedal driving.

It was all by choice, it's not because they can't do it or something. It's a very simple thing to do. Blended braking is much harder to get right!

Ioniq 5 also has optional one pedal driving, and it also has a soft accelerator pedal. Every car that offers the option does, there's no other way to do it.

 

[jk981]

I don’t want one pedal driving.

 

[babylou66]

Exactly. Porsche is considered more sporty so they made the accelerator pedal for the most accurate control, and not soft and mushy.
This meant giving up one pedal driving.

It was all by choice, it's not because they can't do it or something. It's a very simple thing to do. Blended braking is much harder to get right!

Ioniq 5 also has optional one pedal driving, and it also has a soft accelerator pedal. Every car that offers the option does, there's no other way to do it.

Being Estonian I bet you haven't driven a Rivian. That throttle was like a toggle switch. Via OTA's they have toned it down a lot. In 2023 it felt impossible to back up in a Rivian. Also, some time in 2024 they added blended braking and it seemed to be pretty darn imperceptible.

 

[prj]

Also, some time in 2024 they added blended braking and it seemed to be pretty darn imperceptible.

You can't just add blended braking via OTA.
That can only mean the car had the hardware to do it, and they rushed the vehicle to market before finishing the software. It's very specific hardware as well.

I suspect it doesn't actually have blended braking, from a quick search online there is "Regen Assist", which enhances OPD during cold weather or when battery is full by applying the brake pedal automatically to provide the same amount of lift-off regen as in more favourable conditions.

This is not the same as blended braking at all, which is essentially drive by wire, as without it the application of the brake pedal always means application of friction brakes.
In case of a blended braking setup, the firmware in the controller decides how much to actually apply the physical brakes and how much regen to use, not the amount of brake pedal travel. So on the Taycan you can have a lot of pedal travel, which results in no physical brake application, which is impossible if there isn't hardware on the car for that, and from everything I looked at online there isn't any such hardware present on the Rivian.

As for the throttle being physically heavy or light - this is the function of the steel spring inside the throttle, you're not OTA-ing anything there.

 

[Derip88]

Cool. As long as there's the choice to turn it off, I'm all for it.

It will be a 3k option, remember

 

[whitex]

It will be a 3k option, remember

Free to turn on, 3k to turn off?

 

[Bognar67]

https://rennlist.com/articles/porsches-2027-taycan-fake-gears-for-classic-driving-feel/

 

[babylou66]

I've never driven an Ioniq 5N and it doesn't seem like I would like the fake gears/sounds but I gotta say I've read quite a few journos say the went in skeptical and left impressed. Therefore, I think WTH at least we can disable the features so let's give it a shot.

I hate automatic transmissions, of any sort, but I've found I like the EV experience so who knows.

 

[jk981]

I'm kind of ambivalent, but after thinking about it I'm a bit more on board. It's there for fun. This is a $120-$200k car, it doesn't have to be super serious all the time.

As long as it can be toggled of course.

 

[d00d]

The TGT has the paddle shift steering wheel standard, and it's optional on T, TS and GTS.
Could the wheel be fitted to other models?
Assuming Porsche allowed it, what are the chances these pre 2027 models would work with just a PVT software update or PIWIS enabling?

 

[Gkwan]

Oh dear oh dear...
An electric motor is in all objective ways superior to a piston engine and two of the most important superiorities are low noise and wide power band.
I find it really quaint that old petrol heads still see the noise and need for loads of gear ratios to proceed in a reasonably brisk way as "engagement"

Still the market gets what is demanded by the majority, not what is the best use of the technology.

I'm an electric guy now, really, but I've always loved the sound of some motors, like the "V-Max" motorcycle ages ago

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