150kW DC-DC converter option

[WattTurbo]

What you were told is incomplete...
For 350 kW (or 270+ kW) chargers which are 100% 800+ volts, Taycan will charge at those rates. For 150 kW CCS chargers 99.9% in the US (all EA from what others here have stated though I'm still looking for absolute confirmation about that) are 800v so Taycan will charge at 150 kW rate and this option does nothing for you. If you happen to bump into that odd duck 400v 150kW charger (and if TSLA ever opens it's existing 400v superchargers to non-TSLA and allows > 50kW charging for non-TSLA vehicles) *ONLY THEN* will a Taycan without this option charge slower than with.

It is dirt cheap, but I'm stuck on why put something in the car I will never use because a dealer doesn't really know what they are talking about.

I agree with everything you said except for the "supercharger' reference. Even the regular Tesla charging stations are 400V, and can charge > 50kW can't they? There are many more of those than the superchargers, and the chance of those being opened up to non-Tesla cars is much greater as well. So, to me, it's worth the $460 since I am planning to keep mine for years, and so chances are we'll get to use those 400V non supercharger stations.

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[bosbruce]

I agree with everything you said except for the "supercharger' reference. Even the regular Tesla charging stations are 400V, and can charge > 50kW can't they? There are many more of those than the superchargers, and the chance of those being opened up to non-Tesla cars is much greater as well. So, to me, it's worth the $460 since I am planning to keep mine for years, and so chances are we'll get to use those 400V non supercharger stations.

I have seen other discussions on TSLA superchargers you might want to search for as well; your basic premise that many of them can charge > 50kW is correct, but there is no consensus on if TSLA will *EVER* provide adapters for existing superchargers that allow > 50kW charging. It is also entirely possible TSLA will only allow non-TSLA folks to connect to future superchargers they build using Federal stimulus and those could likely be 800v+. At the end of the day this is a personal preference, a small cash item that probably most of us will never use, but could come in handy. In my use case I know I'll rarely DCFC and when I do it will almost certainly be EA (as I've used for my Mustang Mach E), and I don't expect to keep the Taycan 4S for more than a year. Worst case scenario I'll have to wait 3x as long for a very brief part of a charge cycle (PEAK rate is way above average rate if you are not starting at minimum SoC and ending way before 80%, so realistically might be 50% more to twice as long) if I ever encounter an older charger or TSLA opens up existing DCFC chargers with adapters capable of 150kW @400v ...

 

[bosbruce]

I don't have the 150kw option.
But I do have the seat massager.
I use the seat massager maybe twice a week. Its great. I have no idea when (if ever) I'd be using the 150kw DC charger. I charge at home mostly and the rare cases when I charge away from home, I've used an EA charger which are 800v. The worst that can happen if I encounter a 400v 150kw charger is that my charging will be throttled to 50kw.
Honestly, when I charge my Tesla model Y at Tesla chargers, I rarely get over 50kw even though some of the Tesla chargers are rated at 150kw.

I hope I enjoy the seat massager as much as you do! Surprised you're only seeing 50kW rate with Tesla Y... My 2018 Model 3 AWD+ would often see 600+ mph peak charging on latest V2 chargers when adjacent stall is empty (if adjacent stall is in use you share power so get about 1/2 peak but you probably know that)... I think that equates to over 150 kW but not 100% certain (and of course mph charging depends upon vehicle efficiency with M3 being a bit more efficient than MY)... Do you not see > 500 mph peak charging at 150k / 250k superchargers with battery at low SoC (warmed up) on warm days? Still enjoy filling my ICE '00 Boxster S at a sustained 7000+ mph peak gas pump!

 

[Windpower]

Surprised you're only seeing 50kW rate with Tesla Y... My 2018 Model 3 AWD+ would often see 600+ mph peak charging on latest V2 chargers when adjacent stall is empty (if adjacent stall is in use you share power so get about 1/2 peak but you probably know that)

Actually, I didn't know about adjacent stalls. I thought the individual car charging power was limited by the number of cars being charged at the same time. Good to know!
While I am not getting what the advertised charging rates, it hasn't affected me since I use Tesla chargers maybe once a month.

 

[epirali]

This has been said before but another way to look at the 150 KW/400 v charging option, assuming it is your car and you will keep it for a while and/or resell it rather than a lease, is the "insurance" view. Hey you may never use it, but if something changes (Tesla does open its superchargers and you travel, you sell the car privately and its a feature someone wants) then you are covered.

 

[smoothound]

This has been said before but another way to look at the 150 KW/400 v charging option, assuming it is your car and you will keep it for a while and/or resell it rather than a lease, is the "insurance" view. Hey you may never use it, but if something changes (Tesla does open its superchargers and you travel, you sell the car privately and its a feature someone wants) then you are covered.

It has just been announced that Tesla are opening up all chargers in the UK in the next weeks-months. See my thread in the UK forum - link to article. No adapter needed here. Cheers

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