ARB6 - is your battery limited

[BigBob]

I’ve done a test this morning and no limit at 80%
WRS1 done in march with a recall to upload datas to Porsche May 13 th after 60 days for ARB6.
They told me all is fine and never had any limit for charging.
70% charging at 5,4 kwh and 30% fast charging with the option friendly charging selected in the PCM

I fiddled around with some settings in the pcm. The general profile was unticked but set to 80%. I changed that and now goes higher. Not sure how/why it’s influencing when it’s unchecked, but I guess it must be.

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[tigerbalm]

Off-the-record.. 363 with 81% battery on a GTS! That's like 448km on a full 100%. Can I ask you how you even achieve this? What's your average consumption?

I typically only achieve 350km on a full charge (Taycan GTS 2023)

In summer above 20C temps – I regularly achieved 420km on my Turbo S on the 21" Pirelli PZero. Outside of it being summer, I'd say there were two main reasons:

1. Running AC on "eco" mode. Never needed anything else anyways.
2. Driving in a twisty or hilly area that gave plenty of opportunity for regeneration. Ride that brake pedal when conditions allow and it really stretches the range. Motorway driving, not so much.

 

[f1eng]

Wallbox.
However, I am on a smart tariff which is controlled via an app which integrates with Porsche server using ‘kazula’. So I guess Porsche may be sneaking it in under the radar via that. ?‍

My guess is that it is being limited at the Porsche server connection, not the car.
I am new to Ovo anytime but it is clear the link is between the Ovo app and the car via the Porsche server since I don't have one of the smart dispensers it can control instead.
Since I usually charge to 80% at home anyway I only noticed the first time I wanted more. I actually went to the car, noticed a profile had been set to 80% and just selected direct charge on the dash to over ride it. It worked once, not sure if one needs to keep checking to see if it has stopped again.

 

[BigBob]

My guess is that it is being limited at the Porsche server connection, not the car.
I am new to Ovo anytime but it is clear the link is between the Ovo app and the car via the Porsche server since I don't have one of the smart dispensers it can control instead.
Since I usually charge to 80% at home anyway I only noticed the first time I wanted more. I actually went to the car, noticed a profile had been set to 80% and just selected direct charge on the dash to over ride it. It worked once, not sure if one needs to keep checking to see if it has stopped again.

The only issue with direct charge is you won’t get the cheap ovo rate when you use it.

Will give car another go for 85% tonight, see if anything has switched the general profile or whatever back to 80.

 

[f1eng]

The only issue with direct charge is you won’t get the cheap ovo rate when you use it.

I wasn't sure about that.
Certainly if you select an emergency charge in the app you don't, but since the car has to be set itself to direct charge for the app to work I don't see why re-selecting it in the car would incur more charge if the target in the app hasn't been reached yet.
I do think the targets in the app may need setting in plenty of time otherwise it may consider it "cheating" the emergency charge feature if done just before you want more than usual.

 

[Graluy]

I fiddled around with some settings in the pcm. The general profile was unticked but set to 80%. I changed that and now goes higher. Not sure how/why it’s influencing when it’s unchecked, but I guess it must be.

The general Profile and the Timers are used with AC charging when direct charging is not selected
The % parameter in the profile is for the minimum rate of charge you can reach quickly as soon as your car is plugged.
When this level is reached the car goes on charging according to the parameters validated in your active timer.
By example if the minimum is set to 40% and your timer maximum charge is set to 85%, the System will quickly charge to 40% and then will charge to 85% waiting if necessary before restarting charging.
If your car has reached 85% and you let it plugged the System will then go on charging after 30 minutes untill it reaches 100% or you stop charging manually
If you choose direct charging or use DC charging the process starts and stops manually.

 

[f1eng]

The general Profile and the Timers are used with AC charging when direct charging is not selected
The % parameter in the profile is for the minimum rate of charge you can reach quickly as soon as your car is plugged.
When this level is reached the car goes on charging according to the parameters validated in your active timer.
By example if the minimum is set to 40% and your timer maximum charge is set to 85%, the System will quickly charge to 40% and then will charge to 85% waiting if necessary before restarting charging.
If your car has reached 85% and you let it plugged the System will then go on charging after 30 minutes untill it reaches 100% or you stop charging manually
If you choose direct charging or use DC charging the process starts and stops manually.

That is what happens with the car with a straightforward dumb AC dispenser.

What is happening here is when using the OVO Energy "Anytime" App, which over-rides the car request(s) in favour of OVO calculating when is the optimum time for them to supply energy from their green sources.

The normal Taycan charge controls are disabled and the minimum and target charge is set in the Ovo app.
Until recently this worked as expected, you could set a target >80% and it would achieve it by the time programmed into OVO's app.
Now it stops at 80% even if you set more in the OVO app. If you look at the car settings you see a profile has been set, presumably by the app or Porsche, at 80% regardless of what you, as an OVO customer, have set and want.

 

[Graluy]

That is what happens with the car with a straightforward dumb AC dispenser.

What is happening here is when using the OVO Energy "Anytime" App, which over-rides the car request(s) in favour of OVO calculating when is the optimum time for them to supply energy from their green sources.

The normal Taycan charge controls are disabled and the minimum and target charge is set in the Ovo app.
Until recently this worked as expected, you could set a target >80% and it would achieve it by the time programmed into OVO's app.
Now it stops at 80% even if you set more in the OVO app. If you look at the car settings you see a profile has been set, presumably by the app or Porsche, at 80% regardless of what you, as an OVO customer, have set and want.

If a profile is set to 80% the car will charge to 80% immediatly (Minimum to reach immediatly) and then will stop charging untill the conditions set in a timer are reached to go on.
If you use an Energy Manager like your OVO System I think it would be better to select direct charging in your car and let OVO manage your charging session
I think there is a forum explaî’ing suc situations but I do not remember with one
Profile : set the minimum
Timer : set the maximum

 

[Graluy]

Off-the-record.. 363 with 81% battery on a GTS! That's like 448km on a full 100%. Can I ask you how you even achieve this? What's your average consumption?

I typically only achieve 350km on a full charge (Taycan GTS 2023)

Today 357 Kms with 78% : my best is 495 Kms with 100% but as i’ve done a big journey one month ago so it goes down to 410 Kms
I also have a 2018 BMW c evolution wich started with a 100 Kms range. Now after 8 years I manage to increase it to 127 kms
Cool driving and friendly charging
First year :22,5 kwh
This year : 20,3 kwh
Local driving : 18 kwh/100 kms for 20 to 30 kms each time

 

[tpx01]

Today 357 Kms with 78% : my best is 495 Kms with 100% but as i’ve done a big journey one month ago so it goes down to 410 Kms
I also have a 2018 BMW c evolution wich started with a 100 Kms range. Now after 8 years I manage to increase it to 127 kms
Cool driving and friendly charging
First year :22,5 kwh
This year : 20,3 kwh
Local driving : 18 kwh/100 kms for 20 to 30 kms each time

Truly impressive! Thanks for sharing this detailed info ?

 

[BigBob]

If a profile is set to 80% the car will charge to 80% immediatly (Minimum to reach immediatly) and then will stop charging untill the conditions set in a timer are reached to go on.
If you use an Energy Manager like your OVO System I think it would be better to select direct charging in your car and let OVO manage your charging session
I think there is a forum explaî’ing suc situations but I do not remember with one
Profile : set the minimum
Timer : set the maximum

The ovo charge anytime tariff use Porsche compatible software called Kazula. That software creates a different profile called enode which until recently anyway, took primacy over the general profile.
if you turned on direct charging then the car would ignore any profile and just start charging. So that would t work I’m afraid.

Your suggestion may have been a work around perhaps if ovo was controlling the EVSEs decision went to send electricity. But the way this works is it controls when the car demands electricity. For whatever reason, it actually does this by sending all manner of whacky timers to the car so that you hit the target charge at the designated time, whilst trying to use low peak power.

 

[BigBob]

I wasn't sure about that.
Certainly if you select an emergency charge in the app you don't, but since the car has to be set itself to direct charge for the app to work I don't see why re-selecting it in the car would incur more charge if the target in the app hasn't been reached yet.
I do think the targets in the app may need setting in plenty of time otherwise it may consider it "cheating" the emergency charge feature if done just before you want more than usual.

I’m pretty sure if you want to get the discounted rate, then the request for power has to come via the charge anytime app, so direct charge wouldn’t qualify.
On the other hand, I have set the minimum charge in the ovo app to 5% (car was at about 10% charge) and the target (max) charge at 80% with a ready time that was clearly unachievable (ie too soon to get to 80%). The car started charging straightaway and you could see in the app’s savings tab that it was getting the discount. So think the cheat does work.

 

[BjörnfromHamburg]

The best I get on my Turbo S CT with offroad-design-package ist 390 km at 100%.
Don't get that very often though...driving the car like a Porsche wants to be driven. ?‍

Where can I check which ARB is active?

 

[D00notD00d]

If a profile is set to 80% the car will charge to 80% immediatly (Minimum to reach immediatly) and then will stop charging untill the conditions set in a timer are reached to go on.
If you use an Energy Manager like your OVO System I think it would be better to select direct charging in your car and let OVO manage your charging session
I think there is a forum explaî’ing suc situations but I do not remember with one
Profile : set the minimum
Timer : set the maximum

Except where Direct Charging is on. UK OVO & Octopus Smart Charging via their App will override other Porsche Profile and Timer settings and create their own.

 

[f1eng]

I’m pretty sure if you want to get the discounted rate, then the request for power has to come via the charge anytime app, so direct charge wouldn’t qualify.
On the other hand, I have set the minimum charge in the ovo app to 5% (car was at about 10% charge) and the target (max) charge at 80% with a ready time that was clearly unachievable (ie too soon to get to 80%). The car started charging straightaway and you could see in the app’s savings tab that it was getting the discount. So think the cheat does work.

But I am pretty sure you have to select no timers or profiles (ie direct charge) to start with for the charge anytime app to be able to control the charging.
When I get my Taycan back from the body shop - they insisted on a full wheel alignment and can't get the car to go into the correct mode at their workshop to do it so far - I will do a bit more nerding on it.

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