Electrify America Debuts First Indoor Flagship Station in San Francisco

[pedroleumjelly]

I love this spot. I have gone there three times now. Especially if I navigate there using the Porsche nav, it preconditions the battery and I get super fast charging. Went from 20% to 85% in 18 minutes.

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[Tooney]

The indoor charging station is exactly what EV drivers want and need.
Here’s what it’s like to charge an EV at Electrify America’s new station

This should help @Jonathan S. feel a lot better about EA. . .

 

[Jonathan S.]

Since the only purpose of this is to placate their CARB overseer without upping their maintenance on other stations in CA, perhaps EA will build another station like this in one of the other 49 states to placate their EPA overseer there … and perhaps that will be somewhere in the northeast.
Although by then everyone might have TSCN V3 & V4 access, relegating EA to a business school case study.

 

[refazi]

I was there Friday night with 10 other cars, they already had a failed charger..

 

[Tooney]

Calling @Jonathan S. . . .

 

[Jonathan S.]

@Tooney , such torture, knowing that every dollar that went into that station is a dollar that did not go toward improving other stations!
(Although technically, EA funds are fungible only within the two separate pots of CA vs the other 49 states.)

Speaking of funding, can we start a GoFundMe to pay for Kyle's expenses to tour some of the most impressively dysfunctional EA stations in northern New England?
(I want to see how his sunny Western personality copes with, "After waiting in my car half-an-hour for an opportunity to charge at one of the only two working chargers at this four-charger EA station, and then spending what seemed like even longer standing exposed in the sideways wind-driven freezing rain to complete the handshake, now I'm charging at 63kW...")

 

[Tooney]

@Tooney , such torture, knowing that every dollar that went into that station is a dollar that did not go toward improving other stations!
(Although technically, EA funds are fungible only within the two separate pots of CA vs the other 49 states.)

Speaking of funding, can we start a GoFundMe to pay for Kyle's expenses to tour some of the most impressively dysfunctional EA stations in northern New England?
(I want to see how his sunny Western personality copes with, "After waiting in my car half-an-hour for an opportunity to charge at one of the only two working chargers at this four-charger EA station, and then spending what seemed like even longer standing exposed in the sideways wind-driven freezing rain to complete the handshake, now I'm charging at 63kW...")

Actually, if you look at his twitter account right now, he shows a long line at a Tesla Supercharger site, and earlier with Tesla's parked to block Fords from charging.

 

[Jonathan S.]

Oooh, he's racing an identical Ford from NJ to FL, one CCS1 charging, the other TSCN, cool idea!

He must be joking about this though:

" The Teslas are spaced perfectly blocking our access with our non-native charge port! Watch Tesla owners start to do this to block public access [...]"
... since that's just a leftover TSCN habit from V2 shared chargers in pairs, and it's a natural impulse in other context too (e.g., urinals).
Plus I doubt most Tesla owners care enough for such strategizing.

 

[thecoloradokid]

@Tooney , such torture, knowing that every dollar that went into that station is a dollar that did not go toward improving other stations!
(Although technically, EA funds are fungible only within the two separate pots of CA vs the other 49 states.)

Speaking of funding, can we start a GoFundMe to pay for Kyle's expenses to tour some of the most impressively dysfunctional EA stations in northern New England?
(I want to see how his sunny Western personality copes with, "After waiting in my car half-an-hour for an opportunity to charge at one of the only two working chargers at this four-charger EA station, and then spending what seemed like even longer standing exposed in the sideways wind-driven freezing rain to complete the handshake, now I'm charging at 63kW...")

I hate to interrupt one of this forum's favorite past times of whining about Electrify America, but I did want to clarify something.

Kyle is not a "westerner." He moved to Colorado a few years ago from the southeast. I want to say North Carolina.

Ok, back to whining about Electrify America and avoiding the real question - why, in the past year or two, did I buy a CCS compatible vehicle that I want to drive beyond the range of my home charger when I know EA reliability sucks?????

 

[Tooney]

I hate to interrupt one of this forum's favorite past times of whining about Electrify America, but I did want to clarify something.

Kyle is not a "westerner." He moved to Colorado a few years ago from the southeast. I want to say North Carolina.

Ok, back to whining about Electrify America and avoiding the real question - why, in the past year or two, did I buy a CCS compatible vehicle that I want to drive beyond the range of my home charger when I know EA reliability sucks?????

Is your Taycan back in action yet?

 

[thecoloradokid]

Is your Taycan back in action yet?

Yes. Luckily it was only out of commission for a week.

The car got some new charging components, and seems to be working fine. I also got a certain acknowledgment from Porsche that makes up for the inconvenience I went through.

I am road tripping in the Taycan to Tucson for three days next week to ride the gravel bike, and then headed to Scottsdale for four days for some fun. It has been a while since I have done the Albuquerque to Las Cruces stretch, but now there are two high speed chargers on that route and it should easy to do now.

 

[RAHRCR]

@Tooney , such torture, knowing that every dollar that went into that station is a dollar that did not go toward improving other stations!
(Although technically, EA funds are fungible only within the two separate pots of CA vs the other 49 states.)

Speaking of funding, can we start a GoFundMe to pay for Kyle's expenses to tour some of the most impressively dysfunctional EA stations in northern New England?
(I want to see how his sunny Western personality copes with, "After waiting in my car half-an-hour for an opportunity to charge at one of the only two working chargers at this four-charger EA station, and then spending what seemed like even longer standing exposed in the sideways wind-driven freezing rain to complete the handshake, now I'm charging at 63kW...")

I would be willing to chip in a few bucks to send Kyle somewhere….far far away.

My apologies, I will see myself out….

 

[Jonathan S.]

Almost all the Colorado backcountry skiers and skimo racers I know are transplants from the East Coast, so makes sense that Kyle is not a "real" Westerner!

Given that I experienced the state of CCS1 charging in the Northeast with my wife's i4 during the spring and summer before buying a Taycan at the end of the summer, I definitely fall into the "fool me twice" category.
However, as an economist who has worked for DOJ and CARB on CAA cases, including diesel cheating (although not VAG), I am endlessly fascinated by how poorly the consent decree has played out, even though I sure would have thought the incentives were there for EA to operate a functional network upon being required to build the network.
(But instead, EA has treated it more like being sentenced to perform community service for something like serving food in a homeless shelter kitchen...)

 

[Jonathan S.]

I would be willing to chip in a few bucks to send Kyle somewhere….far far away.

My apologies, I will see myself out….

Tevya approves:

 

[Meg]

I’ve been there twice, and it’s great. The first time during launch week, and last week during prime commuting time with there 4-5 empty spaces. I find the cables difficult to click into the car, but maybe they loosen with use. It feels safe, a guard is present 24/7 and there are plenty of chargers. It’s helpful to have the station dedicated to charging. Those in grocery store or shopping center lots often have awkward access, and inevitably users overstay their charging time. Quick turn-around creates additional capacity. I’m no longer a staunch critic of EA,

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