Innodrive challenging?

[marc]

My 21 4S did not have Innodrive but I have a MY25 coming to me this summer and I'm wondering if Innodrive is as confusing as some people think it is, or at least in certain aspects. Thoughts?

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[kurand]

I optioned Innodrive on my earlier 2019 Cayenne E-hybrid. It certainly improves ALK by using detailed mapping data for certain roads (most primary route in the UK). However, I found the auto-speed adjustment much too unreliable and sometimes quite disconcerting. For example, one of my local primary roads underwent a 3 year upgrade with long stretches of reduced 50mph sections. Inoodrive was updated with these sections somewhat sporadically and insisted on suddenly reducing speed to 50mph at least a year after all the road works were completed and limits removed. Suddenly, the car would arbitrarily and quickly reduced max speed. Not good.

i didn’t option Innodrive on my Taycan.

Just got back from a 1200 mile round trip to Cognac. Even without Innodrive, the ACC seems very annoying on French auto-route. These are quite sparsely populated thereby having long distances with nothing in front of the car for the radar to see. However, when a slow moving lorry becomes visible, the system’s first reaction seems to be to apply some retardation while it determines the speed of the vehicle in front. This makes the whole car shudder and probably scares the tail-gaters directly behind. Turned ACC off too.

 

[d00d]

I optioned it but don't use it.
It would be more useful if you could set it to exceed the speed limit by percentage or number, otherwise I feel like I'm holding up traffic.
Yes, one can use the stalk to set a higher speed after it reduces to a lower speed limit, but I found that the attention it needed outweighed the benefits.

 

[Scandinavian]

I have Innodrive in my Taycan and make a lot of use of it. It keeps the car in the lanes quite well if you need to adjust anything on the screen or elsewhere in the car. I do not allow that automatic speed adjustments due to sudden changes That may be very out of date. It can be acknowledged and adjsuted easily with the stalk if needed. Apart from that it works well, but has some of the issues highlighted above, when nearing a lorry. Once you learn the distance it reacts to it is just a matter of changing lanes much earlier than one is used to. I also found it extremely useful on the long stretches of roadworks on German autobahn, with quite narrow lanes and constantly changing speeds.

For long road trips on major roads I would order it again if asked. This is my use case.
For local daily drives or short road trips I would dave the expense.

 

[tfmkevin]

We use Innodrive a lot, and it works great. The key is to turn off the option to obey speed limits. Then, it just improves ACC by also slowing an appropriate amount for curves, braking for anticipated turns in your route, etc. This is especially nice on two-lane highways. Also, Innodrive does not steer. ALK does the steering. Innodrive controls only the speed.

 

[Mil72]

Bought the car without and then buy it as an extra. Cool features for long ride on motorway.

 

[Perry]

We use Innodrive a lot, and it works great. The key is to turn off the option to obey speed limits. Then, it just improves ACC by also slowing an appropriate amount for curves, braking for anticipated turns in your route, etc. This is especially nice on two-lane highways. Also, Innodrive does not steer. ALK does the steering. Innodrive controls only the speed.

I agree. If you turn off the automatic speed limit adjustment, I think it works great. It still reads the signs, but you have to confirm it with the stalk which is how it should be.

 

[d00d]

I'm going to have to try using it with `obey speed limits' off, and didn't realize it would then ask, thanks.

 

[DHSMIAMI]

I did not order InoDrive but then received the offer from Porsche to pay $20 a month for the
service. The first two times I used it, I wanted to cancel the service. As I learned how to operate the system better, Its grown on me. with that said, I’m still mixed in that a Porsche is meant to be driven, and this technology does pull away part of the fun of driving this car in a spirited way.

 

[daveo4EV]

I did not order InoDrive but then received the offer from Porsche to pay $20 a month for the
service. The first two times I used it, I wanted to cancel the service. As I learned how to operate the system better, Its grown on me. with that said, I’m still mixed in that a Porsche is meant to be driven, and this technology does pull away part of the fun of driving this car in a spirited way.

if it’s not engaged it does nothing - thoughts on innodrive in thread below
https://rennlist.com/forums/macan-ev/1394386-is-innodrive-worth-it.html

 

[anonymouse]

I love Innodrive + the other systems. It stays on most of the time. It provides a second pair of eyes to react to things I have missed. It recognises speed limit changes and correctly adjusts speed in advance of the sign. It is significantly less sophisticated than Tesla’s autopilot but (as a result) has fewer false positives — and it is much easier to bump out of the way when I want to steer on a different line.

 

[anonymouse]

a Porsche is meant to be driven, and this technology does pull away part of the fun of driving this car in a spirited way.

I think they have designed it well for this mindset. If you are on a boring road and want to relax a bit, it Is right there -but will disappear immediately if you want to grab control and do a bit of spirited driving. One flick on the lever and it disengages, or a touch of the brake - but you can also leave it engaged while you accelerqte or overtake and it just quietly resumes control afterwards.

 

[Perry]

I love Innodrive + the other systems. It stays on most of the time. It provides a second pair of eyes to react to things I have missed. It recognises speed limit changes and correctly adjusts speed in advance of the sign. It is significantly less sophisticated than Tesla’s autopilot but (as a result) has fewer false positives — and it is much easier to bump out of the way when I want to steer on a different line.

Yeah, even though Autopilot is obviously significantly more advanced, I find the fundamental design of it worse than InnoDrive/ALK. When Autopilot works, it's amazing, but occasionally it will spontaneously try to murder you.

InnoDrive just does what you expect it to do and it doesn't matter that much when it fails because you have much more control over the car. It's an actual driver assist function rather than a ("sometimes") self driving function.

In practice I use InnoDrive significantly more than I use Autopilot for that reason.

 

[f1eng]

However, when a slow moving lorry becomes visible, the system’s first reaction seems to be to apply some retardation while it determines the speed of the vehicle in front. This makes the whole car shudder and probably scares the tail-gaters directly behind. Turned ACC off too.

I don't use motorways much and when I do try to travel at times when they aren't busy and all adaptive cruise controls I have tried have been like this so totally unsuited to my normal driving.

They are only any good, IME, in heavy slow traffic which I try to avoid so I didn't spec ACC in my Taycan and just having normal cruise control is just perfect for me and much, much less annoying than ACC in my other car, which I now never use.

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