Taycan no longer - long live Taycan

[daveo4EV]

Well team given some unrelate matters in terms of my automotive fleet it made sense the other day to trade in my lovely 2020 Taycan Turbo for which I've had a great time…I do not foresee acquiring another Taycan but am planning to obtain a Macan EV and have an allocation and commission number - but accurate delivery dates for that beast are pure speculation at this time - I have every confidence Porsche will deliver Macan EV's "'eventually" but I lack confidence in any of the current dates - I believe even money bets could be made around certainly 3 or more month delay's but less than a full 12 month delay for first Macan EV deliveries in North America…

39,960 miles later I'm going to miss my Taycann - warranty runs out in July of 2024 - but it was going away at some point between when I ordered the Macan EV and actual delivery of the Macan EV - it was never going to be a "keeper" - and other unrelated issues forced my hand last week and it made sense to dump the Taycan at that time…so it wasn't a matter of "if" the Taycan was going away, but when - and it turned out last Saturday was the "win" (sic - a bit of fun with words - I know it should've been "when").

I'll keep everyone up to date on my person journey in this space -at the end of the day I think a Macan EV is a better fit for me going forward vs. a refreshed Taycan (no matter how impressive the new Taycan is which is 100% is impressive)…

on a practical note - deprecation on the gen1 Taycan is brutal and getting worse - the level of depreciation has even shocked me - and I believe excessive and somewhat capriciously enabled by some choice made for the new Taycan that Porsche had to make for competitive reasons, but have caused their early customers to really really take it in the shorts - I got rid of my Taycan early because I do not foresee the depreciation getting better and my driving needs for the Taycan were going to be limited for the next 6-9 months given various road trips that make the Cayenne and it's cargo room a better choice…in the mean time if I need a car to drive while the Cayenne is in use by my wife I'll suffer in her 911 Convertible or on special days my track car…which should cover us until I can lay hands on the more practical DD Macan EV…we're down to one practical vehicle and two recreational vehicles for me - I'll post a go-fund me link for your sympathies later in this thread

if you can overlook the "short comings" vs. the new Taycan - the used price for the level of car you're getting for current gen1 Taycan is truly extraordinary - current new Taycan are going out the door with $40k MSRP discounts and the used market is in free fall - but big picture you can get one of the worlds _BEST_ EV for prices that were a fantasy even 6 months ago - if you don't need the newest and shiniest EV - the current Taycan new-Gen1 and used market is a "high value" product for cheap prices - that is my honest opinion

my personal participation in this community has been wonderful for me personally and I look forward to continuing to contribute where I can, but will no longer have a Taycan at my disposal to personally test or testify as to various details or facts…

I'm hope to to transition successfully to a continued presence as a happy Macan EV owners - but there is a long ways from here to there and recent events in my personal life have taught me that a lot can change, best laid plans, and life is what happens while you're making other plans - yeah life goes that way…

NOTE: in my personal case the lack of providing the PMCC/PMC+ along with my trade in would have lowered the trade in price by the cost of replacement - I'm close with my dealer and queried them on this - and yes they admit there is lax enforcement - but being a silly-con valley dealer and suffering with a higher proportion of EV owners and awareness they are savvy to the cost of failing to "request" this item during trade in if it was included with the original vehicle - the also state this is a topic of conversation and growing awareness among dealership's in North America - selling your PMC+/PMCC because you no longer use it may become and expensive mistake at trade in time once all Porsche dealers realize the cost of replacement for accepting a trade with out this OEM item…my advice has always been, and based on specific experience to keep your vendor provided EVSE even if you're not using it - because if it was provided when you took delivery, it can be requested/required when you trade it in (no different than the 2nd key if you got one) - YMMV.

Note: my Macan EV plan is to pick it up in Porsche Experience center Atlanta and road trip it home. Can you say future forum trip report with full details from an experience Porsche EV owner? I knew you could! At least 2557 miles - but probably more cause we'll take some detours on the way home.

don't cry for me Taycan forum - I'm not suffering - this is my "alternate" to my Taycan…until my Macan EV shows up…yeah I'll need all the help I can get - please contribute to my go-fund-me link

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[tigerbalm]

You'll certainly be missed @daveo4EV – I for one will be interested to read how your overall Macan EV experience goes.

 

[daveo4EV]

I"m excited - I hate to admit it but a lot of what attracts me to the Macan is it's price - it's fully $70-$90k less for a nicely equipped Macan EV Turbo vs. a gen 2 Taycan GTS/Turbo CT…and yet still 3.1 sec 0-60 and believe equal or more practical in terms of rear seat and cargo…and higher seated position and hopefully better ingress/egress ergonomics…

I'm excited for the Macan - all we need now is for it to show up.

it's killing me to not have a Fast charing EV or even a full EV in my fleet - but I keep telling myself it's only temporary - and I have some road trips and vacations in the next 6 months - so honestly the cars are spending a lot of time in the garage…not being driven - no reason to hold on to the Taycan given it was going away anyways…

but for the first time since 2012 I don't have a fastCharging EV in my fleet - I hate that.

 

[McgR]

I"m excited - I hate to admit it but a lot of what attracts me to the Macan is it's price - it's fully $70-$90k less for a nicely equipped Macan EV Turbo vs. a gen 2 Taycan GTS/Turbo CT…and yet still 3.1 sec 0-60 and believe equal or more practical in terms of rear seat and cargo…and higher seated position and hopefully better ingress/egress ergonomics…

I'm excited for the Macan - all we need now is for it to show up.

it's killing me to not have a Fast charing EV or even a full EV in my fleet - but I keep telling myself it's only temporary - and I have some road trips and vacations in the next 6 months - so honestly the cars are spending a lot of time in the garage…not being driven - no reason to hold on to the Taycan given it was going away anyways…

but for the first time since 2012 I don't have a fastCharging EV in my fleet - I hate that.

Exactly this. I was playing with the configurator and an almost full optioned Macan Turbo is around 140 K. A similar optioned Taycan 4 CT would more expensive. And more practical, better sitting position (for me) and larger cargo space, a panoramic roof that can be opened and similar range. From the pictures the build quality looks similar too. It is smaller outside but the inside space is largger

Just have to see the real range at higher speeds. SUV’s tend to loose more range than sedan at higher speeds.

 

[daveo4EV]

Exactly this. I was playing with the configurator and an almost full optioned Macan Turbo is around 140 K. A similar optioned Taycan 4 CT would more expensive. And more practical, better sitting position (for me) and larger cargo space, a panoramic roof that can be opened and similar range. From the pictures the build quality looks similar too. It is smaller outside but the inside space is largger

Just have to see the real range at higher speeds. SUV’s tend to loose more range than sedan at higher speeds.

OMG yes - pano roof that opens - OMG - I hade not noticed that - but you're 100% right - and I've miseed that - and so has my wife!!

yeah - Macan EV is a strong product offering … but a pano roof that opens another small detail that I prefer vs. Taycan.

 

[ender21]

I’m closer to your situation, Dave. I love my ‘20 Taycan 4S, but when the time comes I will be releasing it into the wild to be replaced by the Macan, though for me that’ll be a lease return 1-2 years into production.

I think Taycan Forum should expand to include Macan when, or before, it starts delivering since there will be an overlap in owners of each. I see there is a macanevowners.com but it would be nice to expand the reach of this site versus a separate one.

 

[McgR]

OMG yes - pano roof that opens - OMG - I hade not noticed that - but you're 100% right - and I've miseed that - and so has my wife!!

yeah - Macan EV is a strong product offering … but a pano roof that opens another small detail that I prefer vs. Taycan.

Maybe rename it to the porscheEV forum? That’s what the Belgian Facebook group will do.

 

[Scandinavian]

You will be missed @daveo4EV.
But a lot of good reasons for the change.

When I visited my dealer the other day, he also said that many initial Taycan owners had switched , first to an ICE Macan and then to the Macan EV. The main reason seems to be that the Taycan is a too large Sports Sedan for use here in South of France. Too wide etc. The parking spaces here are quite tiny and the Macao is easier to use and also to get in and out of.

Seems also that all the initial allocations of Macan EV have been sold, but the sale of the refreshed Taycan are not moving so easily. Macan allocation was a multiple larger than Taycan also.

Looking forward to hearing your experience in due time, about owning and living with the Macan.

So far I am a bit hesitant to look at the Macan EV since it is a completely new platform and I still suffer from jiggly problems after 4 years with the Taycan. I will wait and see when the first ones come off their 2 year lease so far.

Best of Luck and hope the wait will not be too long.

 

[daveo4EV]

I plan to remain "active" in the Taycan forums but will increasingly have less to contribute just because I lack person experience and I won't be getting a new Taycan - Halo Sports Sedans are great platforms, but ultimately not my thing in terms of a vehicle…

@Scandinavian and @tigerbalm will both be missed by me (as will many many others) but yeah @Scandinavian and @tigerbalm have been with me now since I started posting…

not leaving, but will require an honorary membership because I'm losing my credentials as a full fledged member.

 

[ciaranob]

Best of luck Dave and thanks for all your insightful and expert advice on this forum over the last 2-3 years.

Macan not for me but will certainly be curious to hear your take on it whenever that may be

 

[Leawood CT]

Good luck to you Dave! I, like many have already said, will be interested to see how things go with your Macan. I think one day in the not to distant future it is where I will end up too. I know you said you are not going away from the forum (good!!), but I suppose this is a good time to say thank you for all your insights on EV charging and overall Taycan charging. Godspeed to your Macan EV journey!

 

[RBGtaycan]

You'll certainly be missed @daveo4EV – I for one will be interested to read how your overall Macan EV experience goes.

Amen brother, amen

 

[Tooney]

I"m excited - I hate to admit it but a lot of what attracts me to the Macan is it's price - it's fully $70-$90k less for a nicely equipped Macan EV Turbo vs. a gen 2 Taycan GTS/Turbo CT…and yet still 3.1 sec 0-60 and believe equal or more practical in terms of rear seat and cargo…and higher seated position and hopefully better ingress/egress ergonomics…

I'm excited for the Macan - all we need now is for it to show up.

Macan EV?????
Wait just a minute, . . .
What happened to "I'm not buying another Porsche EV unless it has NACS" ?

 

[daveo4EV]

Macan EV?????
Wait just a minute, . . .
What happened to "I'm not buying another Porsche EV until it has NACS" ?

never said "NACS" - I said "supercharger" access...I'm just fine with an adapter.

 

[Tooney]

never said "NACS" - I said "supercharger" access...I'm just fine with an adapter.

Does Macan EV have supercharger access?

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