Redshift ECU Upgrade Review on my 2024 Taycan Turbo S

[Lefty8235]

Hey all. I installed the @redshift-performance ECU upgraded module in my '24 TTS on 7/23 and here are my observations so far.

• Mario at Redshift was exceptional to deal with. Responsive, thorough, and very supportive throughout the process.
• My car is the 2024 and has the benefit of THIS UPDATE that saw C&D get a 2.4 0-60 and 10.3 1/4 at 132 MPH stock. I think older models had similar 0-60, but couldn't get the 1/4 that quickly and the SW update got them an extra boost. Pre SW update, the overboost from launch was available for 3 seconds. Post SW update you hold that boost now for 10 seconds.
• All my runs have been on all season tires, filled to 42-46 PSI in the NY area this summer with temps always above 75 degrees. A/C was always off. All runs have been before 6am and after warming car up with approximately 5 miles of driving to get to the spot. SOC for most has been 95-100%.
• My fastest runs pre-tune were as follows:
  • 0-60 - 2.61s (2.44s with the 1ft rollout C&D allows)
  • 60-130 - 7.16s from launch. Unfortunately I never ran this from a roll pre-tune.
  • 1/4 mile - 10.33s at 133.22 MPH
• So you can see, I've been able to replicate the C&D top metrics pre-tune under amateur conditions with all seasons, etc.

Post-tune, I have not seen any improvement in these figures. I did get to 133.73 MPH this morning on a 1/4 mile run of 10.4s, so it's possible I'm getting more wheel spin and actually pulling harder than I was. If so, that's slight, however. I will continue to give it a shot and see what I can record and might also reduce tire pressure to see if that helps as well. Note: I did the recommended battery reconditioning to max out performce. Ran it down under 20%, let it sit for 12 hours, then charged it back in full. I'm using the 19 kwh Porsche Wall Charger.

That said, I'm really disappointed that I didn't get a pre-tune rolling 60-130 because now the car feels shockingly more powerful when I jump on it from a roll. I can easily generate wheel spin at high speeds and the G-force pull on my cheeks is substantial, none of which I ever experienced pre-tune. I'm considering reinstalling the original ECU just to get measurements from a roll to see. Others on here have gotten mid-high 8s on their 60-130 from a roll, but I'm not sure if their cars have the Porsche SW update from 2023, which seems to matter a lot. If anyone has a later model TTS with a 60-130 rolling figure, I'd love to hear it.

The best 60-130 I've gotten from a roll, which is only post-tune, is 7.51. With the car holding the 750 HP overboost for 10 seconds from launch, but only giving you 616 while on a roll, I'd imagine the 7.51 is a lot better with the always-available post-tune ~800 HP than I'd have gotten before. Even .5 is strong.

So my ultimate perspective is the price for the tune is money well spent as the car has become substantially more enjoyable at highway speeds since I now get the permanent overboost strength and don't need launch to get it. An M5CS got jumpy with me the other night on the NYS Thruway and it wound up being embarrassing for him. We got off the same exit and he pulled up to me at the light and said, "That's a first for me."

For the non Turbo S models, the tune is likely far more impactful on all the metrics, but I'm still a happy customer.

Hope this is helpful.

@Mr.Smith @ElectricV8Biturbo

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[ElectricV8Biturbo]

Nice observation but I can definitely say traction is holding you back.
I can tell my metrics with a slightly slower stock car is missing due to traction.

I'm going to try to do some runs with traction control off and see if I get any improvement. But ultimately we need better tires than all seasons

 

[j.w.s]

Hey all. I installed the Redshift ECU upgraded module in my '24 TTS on 7/23 and here are my observations so far.

• Mario at Redshift was exceptional to deal with. Responsive, thorough, and very supportive throughout the process.
• My car is the 2024 and has the benefit of THIS UPDATE that saw C&D get a 2.4 0-60 and 10.3 1/4 at 132 MPH stock. I think older models had similar 0-60, but couldn't get the 1/4 that quickly and the SW update got them an extra boost. Pre SW update, the overboost from launch was available for 3 seconds. Post SW update you hold that boost now for 10 seconds.
• All my runs have been on all season tires, filled to 42-46 PSI in the NY area this summer with temps always above 75 degrees. A/C was always off. All runs have been before 6am and after warming car up with approximately 5 miles of driving to get to the spot. SOC for most has been 95-100%.
• My fastest runs pre-tune were as follows:
  • 0-60 - 2.61s (2.44s with the 1ft rollout C&D allows)
  • 60-130 - 7.16s from launch. Unfortunately I never ran this from a roll pre-tune.
  • 1/4 mile - 10.33s at 133.22 MPH
• So you can see, I've been able to replicate the C&D top metrics pre-tune under amateur conditions with all seasons, etc.

Post-tune, I have not seen any improvement in these figures. I did get to 133.73 MPH this morning on a 1/4 mile run of 10.4s, so it's possible I'm getting more wheel spin and actually pulling harder than I was. If so, that's slight, however. I will continue to give it a shot and see what I can record and might also reduce tire pressure to see if that helps as well. Note: I did the recommended battery reconditioning to max out performce. Ran it down under 20%, let it sit for 12 hours, then charged it back in full. I'm using the 19 kwh Porsche Wall Charger.

That said, I'm really disappointed that I didn't get a pre-tune rolling 60-130 because now the car feels shockingly more powerful when I jump on it from a roll. I can easily generate wheel spin at high speeds and the G-force pull on my cheeks is substantial, none of which I ever experienced pre-tune. I'm considering reinstalling the original ECU just to get measurements from a roll to see. Others on here have gotten mid-high 8s on their 60-130 from a roll, but I'm not sure if their cars have the Porsche SW update from 2023, which seems to matter a lot. If anyone has a later model TTS with a 60-130 rolling figure, I'd love to hear it.

The best 60-130 I've gotten from a roll, which is only post-tune, is 7.51. With the car holding the 750 HP overboost for 10 seconds from launch, but only giving you 616 while on a roll, I'd imagine the 7.51 is a lot better with the always-available post-tune ~800 HP than I'd have gotten before. Even .5 is strong.

So my ultimate perspective is the price for the tune is money well spent as the car has become substantially more enjoyable at highway speeds since I now get the permanent overboost strength and don't need launch to get it. An M5CS got jumpy with me the other night on the NYS Thruway and it wound up being embarrassing for him. We got off the same exit and he pulled up to me at the light and said, "That's a first for me."

For the non Turbo S models, the tune is likely far more impactful on all the metrics, but I'm still a happy customer.

Hope this is helpful.

@Mr.Smith @ElectricV8Biturbo

I am thinking that it's the tires. I imagine a Turbo S, even pre-tune, having enough HP and torque that performance summer tires are a necessity for maximum acceleration. And you are in California, right? Who needs all-season tires in California, except for your ski car.

 

[Lefty8235]

I am thinking that it's the tires. I imagine a Turbo S, even pre-tune, having enough HP and torque that performance summer tires are a necessity for maximum acceleration. And you are in California, right? Who needs all-season tires in California, except for your ski car.

I tend to agree, but don't forget that those same tires let me get the max test results that C&D got under test conditions, so it didn't seem like they were holding me back then.

 

[iamai]

Hey all. I installed the Redshift ECU upgraded module in my '24 TTS on 7/23 and here are my observations so far.

• Mario at Redshift was exceptional to deal with. Responsive, thorough, and very supportive throughout the process.
• My car is the 2024 and has the benefit of THIS UPDATE that saw C&D get a 2.4 0-60 and 10.3 1/4 at 132 MPH stock. I think older models had similar 0-60, but couldn't get the 1/4 that quickly and the SW update got them an extra boost. Pre SW update, the overboost from launch was available for 3 seconds. Post SW update you hold that boost now for 10 seconds.
• All my runs have been on all season tires, filled to 42-46 PSI in the NY area this summer with temps always above 75 degrees. A/C was always off. All runs have been before 6am and after warming car up with approximately 5 miles of driving to get to the spot. SOC for most has been 95-100%.
• My fastest runs pre-tune were as follows:
  • 0-60 - 2.61s (2.44s with the 1ft rollout C&D allows)
  • 60-130 - 7.16s from launch. Unfortunately I never ran this from a roll pre-tune.
  • 1/4 mile - 10.33s at 133.22 MPH
• So you can see, I've been able to replicate the C&D top metrics pre-tune under amateur conditions with all seasons, etc.

Post-tune, I have not seen any improvement in these figures. I did get to 133.73 MPH this morning on a 1/4 mile run of 10.4s, so it's possible I'm getting more wheel spin and actually pulling harder than I was. If so, that's slight, however. I will continue to give it a shot and see what I can record and might also reduce tire pressure to see if that helps as well. Note: I did the recommended battery reconditioning to max out performce. Ran it down under 20%, let it sit for 12 hours, then charged it back in full. I'm using the 19 kwh Porsche Wall Charger.

That said, I'm really disappointed that I didn't get a pre-tune rolling 60-130 because now the car feels shockingly more powerful when I jump on it from a roll. I can easily generate wheel spin at high speeds and the G-force pull on my cheeks is substantial, none of which I ever experienced pre-tune. I'm considering reinstalling the original ECU just to get measurements from a roll to see. Others on here have gotten mid-high 8s on their 60-130 from a roll, but I'm not sure if their cars have the Porsche SW update from 2023, which seems to matter a lot. If anyone has a later model TTS with a 60-130 rolling figure, I'd love to hear it.

The best 60-130 I've gotten from a roll, which is only post-tune, is 7.51. With the car holding the 750 HP overboost for 10 seconds from launch, but only giving you 616 while on a roll, I'd imagine the 7.51 is a lot better with the always-available post-tune ~800 HP than I'd have gotten before. Even .5 is strong.

So my ultimate perspective is the price for the tune is money well spent as the car has become substantially more enjoyable at highway speeds since I now get the permanent overboost strength and don't need launch to get it. An M5CS got jumpy with me the other night on the NYS Thruway and it wound up being embarrassing for him. We got off the same exit and he pulled up to me at the light and said, "That's a first for me."

For the non Turbo S models, the tune is likely far more impactful on all the metrics, but I'm still a happy customer.

Hope this is helpful.

@Mr.Smith @ElectricV8Biturbo

thanks for going the extra distance and writing up your findings. I had the pleasure of meeting Mario in-person and can second what you said about the level of support.
Yes, the rolling performance is a noticeable bump and worth the upgrade even if 0-60 or ¼ is not noticeable boost on Turbo S.

 

[EXOTIC3]

Results are not like what you get with an ice tune. It’s a different platform

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

I absolutely love the full-on 800HP at rolling speeds and not having to stop the car and launch to get it. That alone is worth the tune for me.
The unfiltered throttle is also something I absolutely love! Normal is still smooth, and Sport has a lot sharper throttle response. Cannot say I notice more in throttle response between Sport and Sport Plus (I didn't before the tune either), but in Sport Plus I can match my pre-tune launch control times just by stabbing the throttle at any speed

 

[Loe]

On your rolling run, did you start off in 1st gear or 2nd gear?

Also for what it's worth, my RS E Tron GT in boost mode (637hp vs your non-boost mode 616hp) does 8.51 60-130mph, I would imagine it would at least be near that range from a roll. But keep in mind that my car upshifts to 2nd gear before 60mph as indicated by Dragy, I think the TTS upshifts after 60mph, so that 1st or 2nd gear start may make up that time difference in your testing between stock and upgraded?

Your time of 7.5 from a roll would represent a nice increase either way.

I can't wait for my 47UP campaign to be completed, I have a full data set to compare and excited for this file!

 

[Lefty8235]

On your rolling run, did you start off in 1st gear or 2nd gear?

Also for what it's worth, my RS E Tron GT in boost mode (637hp vs your non-boost mode 616hp) does 8.51 60-130mph, but keep in mind that my car upshifts to 2nd gear before 60mph as indicated by Dragy, I think the TTS upshifts after 60mph, so that 1st or 2nd gear start may make up taht time difference in your testing between stock and upgraded?

Your time of 7.5 from a roll would represent a nice increase either way.

I think I did it from about 50 mph to start. I could be wrong but I thought the TTS goes to 2nd at 57 mph but doesn’t go back to 1st until 32 mph?

TBH I don’t know if I was in 1st or 2nd when I tested it.

 

[Loe]

You are completely right. I'm not sure why I thought it was around 70mph, so ignore me.


Edit, I do wonder if that extra "kick" in g-forces on that 1-2 upshift does favor a 1st gear start seeing as that it occurs that close to 60mph ?

 

[PCFishman]

Anyone mod a GTS and can share their experience?

 

[unbiased]

Anyone mod a GTS and can share their experience?

Its amazing, completely transforms the car. GTS sees the largest difference between the pre and post numbers. It's almost a must have for GTS. My kids always have a smile on their fact when we do LC.

 

[ElectricV8Biturbo]

I tend to agree, but don't forget that those same tires let me get the max test results that C&D got under test conditions, so it didn't seem like they were holding me back then.

Only reason why I still think tires is that in my car, I ran a 10.3 stock with nary a wheelspin. After the tune, I ran the same time but with wheelspin (by tire sound only, no actual spin felt like on an ice car).
If we go back to how wheelspin is mitigated on ICE cars vs electric, it makes sense that you won't feel much of it in effect on the EVs like you do on ICE. Traction control is immediate and more effective on EVs than ICE.

Also I drove MrSmith's car. He has the Michelin Pilot4s' (he has the Audi RS-Etron tuned)
His car simply felt very different when you launch or stab the throttle at low speeds. It felt much faster than my Turbo S on initial throttle input, but I feel like my turboS keeps pulling but his RS-Etron dials down the thrust

 

[PCFishman]

Its amazing, completely transforms the car. GTS sees the largest difference between the pre and post numbers. It's almost a must have for GTS. My kids always have a smile on their fact when we do LC.

what options did you select in your upgrade

 

[unbiased]

no speed limit. Didn’t do the unfiltered throttle response and increased recouperatuon. I like the stock throttle response characteristics.

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