How good is your Taycan at winter?

[ovonrein]

What all-season options are there for the Taycan? I have only found summer options for 21". Not even winter ones.

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[f1eng]

What all-season options are there for the Taycan? I have only found summer options for 21". Not even winter ones.

As I wrote in the previous post I didn't find any so I bought a set of 20" winter wheel/tyres.

 

[RodeoDrive]

What all-season options are there for the Taycan? I have only found summer options for 21". Not even winter ones.

Have a look at these 21" Continental ones - see below.
I have the WinterContact TS 860 S but there's all season ones, too.

Good price value ratio IMO.

https://continentaltire.com/tire-se...3/21-inch-option/1?sort_by=field_weight_value

 

[ferdiaz]

Just to chime in: last weekend was snow weekend in Europe. We took our CT Turbo S up the Alps while mother nature was dumping a whole pack of fresh powder on us.

My car has Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 all around, and I must say, it behaved AMAZINGLY WELL. Even better than my previous Macan Turbo with the same tyres.

It's crazy how coming out of switchbacks with 10% gradients and above, the car won't slip even for a fraction of a second. I don't know what kind of sorcery they did to achieve that, but man is that great!

The only disavantage is that, because there's no engine in the front to warm up that area, a lot of snow is collected in the wheel well (which would otherwise melt and detach), so the wheels tend to rub against that snow layer when applying an angle with the steering wheel.

Otherwise though: chef's kiss.

 

[RodeoDrive]

The only disavantage is that, because there's no engine in the front to warm up that area, a lot of snow is collected in the wheel well (which would otherwise melt and detach), so the wheels tend to rub against that snow layer when applying an angle with the steering wheel.

Otherwise though: chef's kiss.

@ferdiaz what kind of wheels do you have on it now in winter?
I suspect the more open design and a larger 21" wheel is part of what's causing the accumulation on my car's wheel wells, too?

Absolutely agree on the handling on snow - it is bliss

Now it does get interesting if there's more ice and driving downhill - one feels the weight of the thing - but you can't beat physics, I suppose..

 

[ferdiaz]

@ferdiaz what kind of wheels do you have on it now in winter?
I suspect the more open design and a larger 21" wheel is part of what's causing the accumulation on my car's wheel wells, too?

Absolutely agree on the handling on snow - it is bliss

Now it does get interesting if there's more ice and driving downhill - one feels the weight of the thing - but you can't beat physics, I suppose..

I have the five spoke 20 inch off-road design wheels for the Cross Turismo.

 

[ovonrein]

As I wrote in the previous post I didn't find any so I bought a set of 20" winter wheel/tyres.

And compensate with a higher side-wall?

 

[f1eng]

And compensate with a higher side-wall?

No.
Porsche offer winter tyres for the Taycan but only in 20" and 19" wheel sizes.
In fact I don't like the styling of any of the Taycan wheels other than the 21" cross turismo - as long as they are painted and don't have machined highlights - and one of the 20" wheels available with winter tyres but were not on the options list for a new car when I bought mine.
The important thing IMO is to get a tyre with a rubber compound with lower glass transition temperature and deeper tread depth and higher void ratio for draining water.

 

[RodeoDrive]

Porsche offer winter tyres for the Taycan but only in 20" and 19" wheel sizes.

Actually my 21" WinterContacts are NF0 designated - so approved by Porsche - they fit nicely on the cross turismo design wheels.

If I were to choose again, I'd probably go with a separate 20" winter tire though, the 21"s look messy once snow is involved..

 

[ovonrein]

Porsche offer winter tyres for the Taycan but only in 20" and 19" wheel sizes.

Sorry for my naivety but surely I cannot fit a 20" wheel to a car that is configured for 21" - does that not knock out the speedometer? So I thought you would fit a higher sidewall tire on to the smaller rim to end up with the overall same diameter of the wheel.

Chains on summer tyres isn't a bad emergency choice, pretty sure there isn't enough wheelarch clearance for them at the front, so I wouldn't consider them personally.

Well, Porsche seems to agree with you though I cannot tell a difference between front and rear just eyeballing the arches. But it begs the question what use snowchains might be on the rear axle only.

 

[f1eng]

Sorry for my naivety but surely I cannot fit a 20" wheel to a car that is configured for 21" - does that not knock out the speedometer? So I thought you would fit a higher sidewall tire on to the smaller rim to end up with the overall same diameter of the wheel.

The tyres specified for Taycan wheels do have a similar rolling radius whichever wheel diameter, plus there is a menu item in the PCM which lets you tell the car what wheels and tyres you have fitted, presumably so the stability control and speedometer work as intended.
The ride is quite a lot better on my 20" wheels, probably mainly the taller sidewall.

 

[ferdiaz]

Sorry for my naivety but surely I cannot fit a 20" wheel to a car that is configured for 21" - does that not knock out the speedometer?

My Turbo S comes homologated for using both 20 and 21 inch wheels (no 19 inch unfortunately due to brake caliper clearance). The trick is that the smaller rim uses a higher profile tyre to compensate towards the same total diameter.

Also, buried down in the onboard computer menus, there's the option to choose what wheel/tyre combination you're running. So when you swap sets in spring/autumn, you should configure that setting with the correct value. Amongst other things, this ensures the speedo is within spec.

I run 21 inch in summer, and 20 inch in winter. Did the same thing when I had my old Macan Turbo, and the process was the same: I had to set the new wheel/tyre combination in the onboard computer after swapping sets.

 

[Jonathan S.]

I've been totally happy running 20" CC2 year-round on my 4CT.
And that's with seeking out snow-covered roads (to reach snow-covered mountains).

The rear hatch of the CT is especially prone to getting caked with snow and grime.
(But that just adds to one's cred at backcountry trailheads!)

I like the ability to turn off lift-off regen entirely.
And the adjustable-height suspension is another plus.

As with any EV, the cabin preconditioning is a joy (especially when somewhat underdress in race lycra for backcountry skiing).

The range hit in winter is definitely a minus.
Although now that MB has opened a monster charging station along my main route, along with two Rivian stations open to all comers, public charging is no longer the disaster it previously was.

 

[PSUEric]

A useful thread as we are about to do our first winter road trip, to Bavaria (overnight -12 this week), and a bit nervous about what we may find.

One feature of EVs that I always try to remember is that with no engine heat, the front stays very cold - any ice blocking headlights needs to be manually removed or it can be surprisingly gloomy on the road ahead.

I do get a batch of sensor warnings, with various bits of automation disabled, quite often. Sometimes this is genuinely salt on a lens but I think it can also just be the low angled winter light confusing them: parking and turning off/on clears it.

in terms of roadholding, though, on my Porsche Experience Day I was amazed by the protective systems we have in our car. If it can handle winter conditions the way it intervenes in a skid pan simulation that is worth the high price of this car.

For our road trip we have put on 3PMSF-rated winter tyres, increased the antifreeze screen wash ratio, packed ice scraper and de-icing spray, given the door seals a coat of Sonax Gummipflege to deter sticking. Anything else we should do?

Coming back to Ga from Pa the first week of Dec, traveled through wet snow in Virginia and the top half of N. Carolina. Got a message that adaptive cruise was no longer active and when I stopped at a rest stop saw why. Started cleaning the wet snow off the front and took a picture.

 

[gramorris]

Yes, this is with Porsche assist. I’ve spent probably a whole day on the phone to them in total. The car is totally unsafe to drive in the cold. They say, “that’s awful, this is a priority to fix” then say they’ll call back with times and then it goes dead and the cycle starts again. We were going to get a Macan Turbo EV but there is no way we’ll get another Porsche after this one sadly: it’s a shame, I love the car, but Porsche in the UK couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery as the old saying goes

I would assume Porsche Assist would know where heaters were but it might be worth ringing some dealerships if you haven’t already. It was earlier in the winter but I had mine replaced in a couple of days by South London as they had heaters on the shelf.

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