Advice for new Taycan 2025

[SergeyIndy]

Do you get false alarms, but without the braking?
A few times it thought an exhaust system heat signature was something.

No false alarms when seeing hot exhaust for me.

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[BullitX]

@SergeyIndy what is your experience with the massage seats? Does it have motors in the seat or only in the back?

 

[SergeyIndy]

@SergeyIndy what is your experience with the massage seats? Does it have motors in the seat or only in the back?

I optioned them given great feedback from others, which would be the first time I have this feature. Massage function goes with 14-way only which was my choice as well as it fits and looks nicer, in my view, in the narrow space of the Taycan. The motors are only in the back, activated by the press of a button on the side of the seat, and multiple programs/intensity can be selected then in the PCM. I think this feature exceeded my expectations and it is really nice on longer drives or while standing in traffic. Any passenger would certainly like it.

 

[Perry]

I consider it essential and a good value to the overall cost of the car. The mode of operation is to see people and animals when it gets dark beyond the visible area of the headlights. The infrared camera detects heat signatures very far, wide, and immediately to the side and emergency brakes the car if necessary. It pays for itself, when it saves the car from hitting a deer, for example, or sees every person and animal trick or treating. It has its limitations when it can detect heat signature, so please reference that, which it has to be dark enough and outside temp cannot be too hot.

We were driving at night in the middle of the Florida forest, that was in the Cayenne, but it is the same system. The deer was standing in the middle of the road, not visible to us, as headlights were not projecting that far, the system detected it in time, circled it as an animal, and applied smooth braking to stop the car and we just waited for the deer to move, before going again.

Another nice thing that might be worth mentioning is that the system is also always active even if you don’t have the camera view selected in the dash. The camera view is nice, but I think the main feature for me is that it automatically flares up and highlights any potential dangers.

I don’t think I’ve ever had any false positives (at least not anything it has warned me about) and overall it feels like a pretty reliable system. I have had a few encounters with deer on the road where the system saved me from what could otherwise have been a really scary situation.

Also @BullitX, on the topic of Active ride: Yes, the car will automatically lift when any door is opened, even if someone is already sitting in the car. There are however a few exceptions when it doesn’t activate, like if the charger is plugged in or if the boot is open.

 

[BullitX]

Thank you! That’s good to know. Seems like I should really go for the Active Ride then. The dealer has told me that they should have a car in early September with Active Ride so I can test it out. Exciting!

 

[4thPcar]

Hi everyone!

I've been reading posts on this forum for weeks, and I recently joined to make my first post. I need some advice, or just your two cents.

I currently drive a leased 2022 BMW 530e, fully loaded. Business has been good, and I'm about to take the plunge towards a Taycan. Initially, I looked at some CPO Taycan J1s since their prices have been dropping significantly. However, the more I learned about the new Taycan, the more I appreciated its advancements over its predecessor. Now, I'm certain I want the new Taycan.

This will be my first time owning a car (I've always leased before), so I specced one to the brim. I have a RWD Taycan with RAS and PTV+ in mind. I test-drove it and absolutely loved how it performed. Just as I thought I had finalized the specs, I started doubting if I should go for the 4S + Active Ride instead.

I'm curious about how different the Active Ride (and the 4S) would be compared to the RWD with the new air suspension. I want as much comfort as possible without breaking the bank. The 4S + Active Ride will cost around $28k more than my specced RWD, which would really stretch my budget, but it's doable.

Additionally, my 71-year-old father, who has stiff and painful joints, will be a frequent passenger. I wonder if the Active Ride's comfort access is better than the regular "Lift" mode on the RWD.

Is the Active Ride + 4S worth the extra $28k? I know it's subjective, but I would love to hear your thoughts!

P.S. Getting a CT is not an option.

I have the RWD with RAS which requires the air suspension. Coming off a 911, this feels like a sailboat at low speeds. Its heavenly. I wouldn't pay more for a more comfortable ride, this is ample.

What I notice is that all this comfort goes away at high speeds or using "sport" modes, because the car tightens up either naturally or due to the settings. When on a long drive, I turn off all the "sport" settings and it goes back to feeling like a sailboat, which my passengers really appreciate.

There are many other posts comparing the RWD to other heavier models, recognizing the lighter and more nimble feel of the RWD, so there's that, which you get for no extra cost!

Of course, any spec beyond the RWD will be faster, so you'll catch up to traffic faster.

YMMV

 

[BullitX]

@4thPcar
I have test-driven the RWD, and I had to double-check if they hadn't given me a 4S because I did not expect the RWD to feel this quick and nimble. As you mentioned, it was fantastic and on a whole different level compared to my BMW.

In early September, I will test-drive the 4S and try out the active ride to experience it for myself and then make a final decision. I’ve never had such a hard time spec'ing a car—Porsche really knows what they are doing!

 

[OzzieT]

@OzzieT :
Thank you for your reaction! What do you mean exactly with:
Can you give me an example?
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- could not get phone book to sync with the PCM (email addresses only): solved with Apple CarPlay
- my SSD drive of music which formatted perfectly in the BMW is just painful to use (every start up it goes back to ABBA which is the first album, playlists do not work, screen formatting hopeless)
- NAV implementation is poor: solved by Apple CarPlay
- Apple CarPlay only operates in the middle screen, not the driver screen or HUD. Additionally I have the passenger display and you cannot have Maps on the middle screen and Spotify on the passenger play simultaneously (ie both Car Play sourced)
- Apple CarPlay does not start immediately, I need to drive for about a kilometre before it starts
- when I enter the vehicle, close the door and press brake pedal, sometimes the seat moves into correct position and PCM starts, and sometimes nothing happens and I need to press and hold start/stop button and seats still will not go into saved position
- sometimes the centre screen does not start up at all
- there is no setting to automatically reduce the stereo volume at start up
- when ‘micro-reversing’ the car moves backwards in ‘mini-surges’
- the brake pedal feels spongy and if it is connected to a cheap plastic wire
- there is no auto lock option when you walk away from the vehicle
- the top of the driver door where you rest your elbow while driving is a piece of rock hard plastic covered by a thin veneer of leather, unbearable
- the external door handles, sometimes extend automatically, and sometimes they don’t
- numerous Bluetooth issues - mostly on a long trip I exit the car after using Spotify on CarPlay - then when I charge and re-enter the car - I’ve got Spotify coming through the speaker on my phone through the PCM - weird
- the Burmester sound system is a very poor imitation of the Bowers & Wilkins
- the seat heating does not extend to the centre console and door
- no soft close doors (now available on 2025 model)
- it is not easy to get in and out of the front seats dues to position of the main pillar
- there are other more trivial items

The car looks so luscious - it is a beauty! It is amazing to drive!

Can you live with the irritations? Some days I can, and some days I can’t.

 

[24Neptune]

Unless you just have to have EV, my 0.02 is BMW M850i or if seriously considering 4S, then M8?.

BMW interiors, the B&W stereo and tech Is much better especially on cost comparative basis. I will say though that driving dynamics and ride quality on 20’s goes to the Taycan and I don’t have air ride on mine.

 

[Margrock]

Hi everyone!

I've been reading posts on this forum for weeks, and I recently joined to make my first post. I need some advice, or just your two cents.

I currently drive a leased 2022 BMW 530e, fully loaded. Business has been good, and I'm about to take the plunge towards a Taycan. Initially, I looked at some CPO Taycan J1s since their prices have been dropping significantly. However, the more I learned about the new Taycan, the more I appreciated its advancements over its predecessor. Now, I'm certain I want the new Taycan.

This will be my first time owning a car (I've always leased before), so I specced one to the brim. I have a RWD Taycan with RAS and PTV+ in mind. I test-drove it and absolutely loved how it performed. Just as I thought I had finalized the specs, I started doubting if I should go for the 4S + Active Ride instead.

I'm curious about how different the Active Ride (and the 4S) would be compared to the RWD with the new air suspension. I want as much comfort as possible without breaking the bank. The 4S + Active Ride will cost around $28k more than my specced RWD, which would really stretch my budget, but it's doable.

Additionally, my 71-year-old father, who has stiff and painful joints, will be a frequent passenger. I wonder if the Active Ride's comfort access is better than the regular "Lift" mode on the RWD.

Is the Active Ride + 4S worth the extra $28k? I know it's subjective, but I would love to hear your thoughts!

P.S. Getting a CT is not an option.

I thought about getting the active ride on my 2025 spec'd Tacan CT, but I learned that it will add about 40 pounds to the vehicle, and will probably affect the range. That (and the cost of the option itself) pushed me to drop it. From your post, it appears that entry/exit are your "driving" (forgive the pun) factors, so range might not be important in this consideration.

 

[SergeyIndy]

This is the technical differences between Gen 1 AS + PDCC vs. Gen 2 AS vs. Gen 2 Active Ride.
This Active Ride is new with a lot more components and different handing of the forces and I understand that a lot of tuning hours went into it and still ongoing assuming possibly getting updated tuning via OTA.

 

[BullitX]

Unless you just have to have EV, my 0.02 is BMW M850i or if seriously considering 4S, then M8?.

BMW interiors, the B&W stereo and tech Is much better especially on cost comparative basis. I will say though that driving dynamics and ride quality on 20’s goes to the Taycan and I don’t have air ride on mine.

@24Neptune The 8-series is not really an option. They cost much more than the 4S and look very dated, both inside and out. The model hasn't been updated for ages. Besides, the options are quite limited as well. I’d rather drive my 5-series than the 8.

 

[BullitX]

I thought about getting the active ride on my 2025 spec'd Tacan CT, but I learned that it will add about 40 pounds to the vehicle, and will probably affect the range. That (and the cost of the option itself) pushed me to drop it. From your post, it appears that entry/exit are your "driving" (forgive the pun) factors, so range might not be important in this consideration.

@Margrock

That's interesting. According to the configurator, the active ride feature reduces the total WLTP range by about 5 km. It seems the biggest impact on range comes from the jump from RWD to 4S, with the city range dropping by almost 100 km and the mixed range by about 40 km. However, I wonder how accurate the configurator is. It updates the range based on the selected options, but I'm not sure how reliable that is.

Additionally, while the entry/exit feature is important, it's not a 100% must-have, especially considering that upgrading from RWD to 4S (with active ride) would cost me an additional $28k. However, the added benefits of AWD, more power, and Push to Pass could add a lot of fun, enjoyment, and safety. It rains often in my country, and temperatures are usually around 10-15 degrees Celsius (50-59 degrees Fahrenheit). Given that I want to keep the car for at least 5 years, it's something I need to evaluate during the test drive next month.

 

[BullitX]

This is the technical differences between Gen 1 AS + PDCC vs. Gen 2 AS vs. Gen 2 Active Ride.
This Active Ride is new with a lot more components and different handing of the forces and I understand that a lot of tuning hours went into it and still ongoing assuming possibly getting updated tuning via OTA.

@SergeyIndy

Thank you for the info and the graphic slide! I am very curious to see how the PAR compares to the improved Air Suspension. I can't wait to test it.

I watched a review on YouTube from Autogefühl about the new Panamera and its active ride, but the reviewer didn't seem overly enthusiastic about the Active Ride compared to the base Air Suspension. I read somewhere (though I can't remember where) that the Taycan has different tuning for the Active Ride. Is it mechanically the same, or did they make physical changes to the Active Ride system for the Taycan compared to the Panamera?

 

[24Neptune]

@24Neptune The 8-series is not really an option. They cost much more than the 4S and look very dated, both inside and out. The model hasn't been updated for ages. Besides, the options are quite limited as well. I’d rather drive my 5-series than the 8.

Different strokes…I still absolutely love the 8 and sure if you can get a 4S for <$115k (loaded M850 price) which I didn’t think was possible…

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