Anyone using PORSCHE MOBILE CHARGE PLUS ?

[soamz]

So, I did not order the PMCC with display, as my building doesn't allow till 22kw usage 3 phase, so I simply want to use the standard charger without display - PORSCHE MOBILE CHARGE PLUS.
But when I connect it, it shows red lights.

I guess the charger needs to be activated.
But when I check the manual, its all wasteful information - and there is no direct information like any SSID to connect to and config the charger or whatever.
It has given a web password and web hostname too, but there is no IP address to actually access it even.

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[soamz]

Option 2 - It says - Operation via the Web Application of the charger A Web Application stored in the charger enables convenient operation via the browser of a mobile device (PC, tablet, smartphone). A home network is required for connection, and the charger and device must be in this network. A network connection can be established directly via PLC (Powerline Communication). The device and charger are connected via a PLC adapter and a router. The device can access the charger's Web Application via the router.



God damn, it seems Im back to my IT days.
Paying a fortune and then wasting 5 hours for this IT job again and still not working ?

Why did not they simply give a damn IP address on the charger to connect to via wifi and then config ?

 

[Tooney]

The PMC+ does not need to be activated, if you mean by that connecting it to some server. You just plug it in and connect it to the car.

In the manual in the Malfunctions section (page 30), there is a long list of error conditions displaying red light combinations. Many of those seem to be caused by problems with the electric supply to the charger.

Quite a number of reports that the PMC+ overheats, at least as it is used in USA. You can read about that in other threads on this forum. May be an issue with US/NA supply power. But that is different issue than red warning lights.

 

[Jhenson29]

You shouldn’t need to access the web page for standalone operation.

The unit can be toggled between 50% and 100% current from the front display.

In North America, the capacity is also set by the supply cable that is connected to the unit. I assume the same for yours, but not sure.

As @Tooney said, it’s likely a problem with the supply or receptacle.

 

[Machine-Rules]

Do you know the step by step method how to connect the charger to the home network? I am not a technically savvy and really couldn’t figure out how to connect the PMC+.

 

[daveo4EV]

Do you know the step by step method how to connect the charger to the home network? I am not a technically savvy and really couldn’t figure out how to connect the PMC+.

I wouldn't worry about it - you'd need a PowerLineCommunications device and then you have to get wifi/networking near the breaker that provides power to the PMC+ - after you do that I'm not even sure it will upload stats to the porsche website…

the _ONLY_ reason to connect a PMC+ to the network is to have it controlled/interact with Porsche's Home Energy Manager - which is not a thing in North America (it is not sold/supported for our region of the world).

If your PMC+ is charging your vehicle I'd just leave it alone, if it's not charging your vehicle consider an alternative EVSE to charge your EV…

but wasting time with the PMC+ will yield a very very low ROI.

 

[W1NGE]

So, I did not order the PMCC with display, as my building doesn't allow till 22kw usage 3 phase, so I simply want to use the standard charger without display - PORSCHE MOBILE CHARGE PLUS.
But when I connect it, it shows red lights.

I guess the charger needs to be activated.
But when I check the manual, its all wasteful information - and there is no direct information like any SSID to connect to and config the charger or whatever.
It has given a web password and web hostname too, but there is no IP address to actually access it even.

PMC+ has no WiFi (no SSID therefore) and must be connected via 2x power line adapters (PLC) and ethernet cables.

PLC adapters must also be on the same electrical circuit / ring (most homes have 2) otherwise you won't be able to connect the adapters to each other.

When connected properly you should easily pick up the IP address from your router.

No real need to place on the network in any case. Why do you need to?

 

[W1NGE]

Do you know the step by step method how to connect the charger to the home network? I am not a technically savvy and really couldn’t figure out how to connect the PMC+.

Not worth the stress but is fairly straightforward to accomplish

PLC adapters (TP-LINK) will come with instructions to configure - pretty much plug and play - key point is that the adapters must be on the same electrical circuit e.g placing one adapter downstairs and another upstairs likely won't work as the adapters will be on different circuits and won't be able to synchronise to make the desired network.

In general, you need PMC+ + PLC adapter 1 + electric socket + PLC adapter 2 + electrical socket + router and then connect to the PMC+ once you've established the IP address (or device name) from your router.

You may encounter a certificate error (device not trusted) on your browser but simply bypass that by clicking past.

 

[daveo4EV]

Do you know the step by step method how to connect the charger to the home network? I am not a technically savvy and really couldn’t figure out how to connect the PMC+.

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...uide-to-the-porsche-evse-pmc-pmcc-pwcc.13886/

 

[Machine-Rules]

Thanks all for responding.

Another common question…,.Can I leave the charger (using AC) connected to car for 10 days? Is it safe?

 

[DougFrisk]

Thanks all for responding.

Another common question…,.Can I leave the charger (using AC) connected to car for 10 days? Is it safe?

You can but it's not recommended. While charging the Traction Battery/High Voltage battery, the circuit that uses the high voltage battery to charge the 12 volt battery is disconnected. That means, that if you are charging for multiple days at a very slow (1.5 KW) charge rate you can end up with a fully charged traction battery and a dead 12 volt battery.

 

[daveo4EV]

You can but it's not recommended. While charging the Traction Battery/High Voltage battery, the circuit that uses the high voltage battery to charge the 12 volt battery is disconnected. That means, that if you are charging for multiple days at a very slow (1.5 KW) charge rate you can end up with a fully charged traction battery and a dead 12 volt battery.

leaving an ev plugged in does not consume/provide power once the battery is full

EVSE are an on/off affair and do not trickle charge the battery

porsche has recommendations for long term storage - less than 3 weeks i would not worry about much

 

[W1NGE]

Thanks all for responding.

Another common question…,.Can I leave the charger (using AC) connected to car for 10 days? Is it safe?

Should be fine and will act as a trickle charger. Porsche suggest it can be done over long periods - refer to the manual under storage.

 

[daveo4EV]

Should be fine and will act as a trickle charger. Porsche suggest it can be done over long periods - refer to the manual under storage.

this is incorrect - EVSE's are different beasts than most devices plugged in…

there is _NO_ power flowing if the car is not requesting it - it's a strict on/off affair - now leaving an EVSE plugged in may cause the vehicle to "start/stop" a charging session to top off the battery - but power Is not flowing continuously…

my Tesla's would charge about every 5 days after the battery was topped off to restore single digit percentages lost to vampire draw - but power is NOT flowing if the vehicle isn't requesting it.

leaving an EVSE plugged in will not cause "constant" power load - this is easily "seen" with EV chargers that have status (such as the PMCC) - no power is flowing once the battery is topped off or waiting to start a charging session.

 

[W1NGE]

this is incorrect - EVSE's are different beasts than most devices plugged in…

there is _NO_ power flowing if the car is not requesting it - it's a strict on/off affair - now leaving an EVSE plugged in may cause the vehicle to "start/stop" a charging session to top off the battery - but power Is not flowing continuously…

my Tesla's would charge about every 5 days after the battery was topped off to restore single digit percentages lost to vampire draw - but power is NOT flowing if the vehicle isn't requesting it.

leaving an EVSE plugged in will not cause "constant" power load - this is easily "seen" with EV chargers that have status (such as the PMCC) - no power is flowing once the battery is topped off or waiting to start a charging session.

Owner's manual supports my comment.

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