Buy now or wait for next-generation car?

[Fun TC Driving]

We are getting a 2027 GTS ST Taycan with hopefully it having the rumored virtual PDK with simulated sound and torque gearing. Our current Macan EV Turbo lease ends next year so no option for us to further wait for the 2028 J.2, though might Porsche’s new CEO push it out that currently-next platform to 2029 or ?

We plan on getting the shortest lease length available on our 2027, enjoying the hell out of it, and then the solid state next Taycan version or maybe another brand’s equivalent of it.

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[CoolDadLo]

We are getting a 2027 GTS ST Taycan with hopefully it having the rumored virtual PDK with simulated sound and torque gearing. Our current Macan EV Turbo lease ends next year so no option for us to further wait for the 2028 J.2, though might Porsche’s new CEO push it out that currently-next platform to 2029 or ?

We plan on getting the shortest lease length available on our 2027, enjoying the hell out of it, and then the solid state next Taycan version or maybe another brand’s equivalent of it.

Perfect. It’s all about our plans right. Sounds like good timing on your end with the lease end. We’re always plotting ahead to make our next move the best move for our situations

 

[Murph7355]

Given the depreciation on Taycan’s I’d be inclined to get a good deal now on a used J1.2 and then trade it in for a used J2.1 in a two or three years. You will get to know and enjoy the J1.2 for the next year or so and will save a lot of money over buying a new J2.1 next year if indeed it ever appears.

Similar.

Get a used car that ticks most of the boxes now.

Let J2.0 come out and see what issues there are with that. Then choose what to do - stick 1.2, jump to used 2.0, jump to new 2.0.

They are fab cars, even with the general issues. 2.1 seems less prone to issues at present but who knows (couple on here with PAR issues I believe).

As for depreciation. 2.0 will depreciate too. It's a large sports saloon/estate. They all depreciate. Even 911s (not natural competitors, though I sold my 997 as the Taycan got all the driving time) depreciate.

Porsche's ability to ride out fundamental design flaws is not lasting. And quite right too.

Enjoy one now. Life's too short.

 

[daveo4EV]

Based on previous timescales, we should be expecting a new "Gen-3" (or "J2.1") car by end of 2027 (MY28). There are lots of great deals around for used (CPO) cars, but what if you're fussy like me and want to spec a brand-new car? (one to keep for 6-8 years). Is it worth buying a new car right now, or should one be patient and wait for the next-generation model?

As I see it, the pros of each option are
1. Buy Now
• Lower pricing ("Black Edition" + Dealer discounts)
• Get to enjoy a great car now

2. Wait for Gen-3 (end of 2027?)
• Latest tech + range
• Improved resale value (down the line)

What do you think?

lease a J1.2 - and consider the new generation in late 2028 - they will announce in fall of 2027 - deliveries of the new generatoin won't occur until 2nd 1/2 of 2028 - about the time a 3 year lease will be running out…

I see no reason to wait nearly 3 years for a car if you want a Taycan now…

 

[Crazymind]

Life is too short!
What iif the style of the new Taycan will not please you… or if Porsche goes tits up…

 

[prj]

Let J2.0 come out

From what has been indicated it's going to be essentially an electrified Panamera.

I would wait until solid state is a reality or at least significantly improved range of at least 300 miles in winter. MY28 could be that moment.

J1.2 gets very close to that range on the Sedan with 20" wheels, I'd say around 290. My CT got 280 on 20" winter wheels in sub zero temperatures in a blizzard on the motorway - I was cheating a little by having the car in a warm (15C) garage though, so it didn't have to spend as much energy warming up.

Also range is a fairly personal thing, e.g. for my usage it is irrelevant if the range is 200mi or 300mi, the high performance with low SoC is much more welcome however.

J1.2 has higher real world motorway range than Cayenne btw, because you're not trying to move a brick through the air at 130km/h. The efficiency of the Cayenne drops off a cliff past 70km/h.

From the configurator:
Cayenne Turbo motorway efficiency with default everything:
26.3 kWh/100 km - 399 km range (assuming 105kWh net capacity)

Macan Turbo motorway efficiency with default everything:
23.4 kWh/100km - 401 km range (94.9 kWh net capacity)

Taycan Turbo motorway efficiency with default everything:
20.7 kWh/100km - 469 km range (97 kWh net capacity)

I'd say around town and at slower speeds the range is irrelevant if you're not a taxi driver - it's so large that you're never going to go through that in a day.

Make no mistake - the J1.2 is at the latest and best level of tech for VAG/PAG as far as range is concerned. It has the newest and most efficient rear motor as well as the best battery tech and everything else is upgraded as well to get the maximum efficiency, hence why it's so much more efficient than the Cayenne and Macan. If those two had any better tech, the J1.2 would not crush them like this - 17% more range on the motorway.

Could argue that the infotainment is dated, but tbh, I just use Android Auto with Waze anyway and I really don't care.

 

[W1NGE]

OP is talking about waiting 18 months.

if waiting until solid state is a reality for a production model, that may be some time between 5 years and “never.”

Not everyone needs more range for their use case. And IF true solid state makes it to a production model, expect it to come at a huge $$ premium. More likely solid state would be used to increase efficiency, reduce charge times and weight.

You don’t need a huge range if the car is lighter and charges faster.

I've had 2 Taycan J1.1s both with PB+ and in winter the range was mediocre - 210 miles at best. Not enough to do a return trip to Edinburgh from Aberdeen (which I do frequently) without having to recharge.

On the forum there are posts from owners getting 300 miles on base PB - they live in Florida.

Public charging in UK is.more expensive than a litre of fuel and speed of charge is essentially a lottery.

SS is coming, no question. Higher density, lighter and higher range. Perfect.

 

[W1NGE]

Life is too short!
What iif the style of the new Taycan will not please you… or if Porsche goes tits up…

It likely won't be radically different -not the Porsche way.

 

[W1NGE]

From what has been indicated it's going to be essentially an electrified Panamera.



J1.2 gets very close to that range on the Sedan with 20" wheels, I'd say around 290. My CT got 280 on 20" winter wheels in sub zero temperatures in a blizzard on the motorway - I was cheating a little by having the car in a warm (15C) garage though, so it didn't have to spend as much energy warming up.

Also range is a fairly personal thing, e.g. for my usage it is irrelevant if the range is 200mi or 300mi, the high performance with low SoC is much more welcome however.

J1.2 has higher real world motorway range than Cayenne btw, because you're not trying to move a brick through the air at 130km/h. The efficiency of the Cayenne drops off a cliff past 70km/h.

From the configurator:
Cayenne Turbo motorway efficiency with default everything:
26.3 kWh/100 km - 399 km range (assuming 105kWh net capacity)

Macan Turbo motorway efficiency with default everything:
23.4 kWh/100km - 401 km range (94.9 kWh net capacity)

Taycan Turbo motorway efficiency with default everything:
20.7 kWh/100km - 469 km range (97 kWh net capacity)

I'd say around town and at slower speeds the range is irrelevant if you're not a taxi driver - it's so large that you're never going to go through that in a day.

Make no mistake - the J1.2 is at the latest and best level of tech for VAG/PAG as far as range is concerned. It has the newest and most efficient rear motor as well as the best battery tech and everything else is upgraded as well to get the maximum efficiency, hence why it's so much more efficient than the Cayenne and Macan. If those two had any better tech, the J1.2 would not crush them like this - 17% more range on the motorway.

Could argue that the infotainment is dated, but tbh, I just use Android Auto with Waze anyway and I really don't care.

108 kWh net (113 gross).

Too soon to draw a real world comparison. Test drive in June.

Definitely heavier but more spacious and practical.

 

[prj]

108 kWh net (113 gross).

Wasn't sure if the 108kWh is official, so I just used the same percentage buffer as on the Taycan. If it is, that's a couple km more, but still much inferior to the Taycan at higher speeds.

Definitely heavier but more spacious and practical.

I mean, a van is also practical, but you don't drive the Taycan to get the driving characteristics of a van...
If you like the SUV shape, there's SO many different cars out there to choose from.

 

[W1NGE]

Wasn't sure if the 108kWh is official, so I just used the same percentage buffer as on the Taycan. If it is, that's a couple km more, but still much inferior to the Taycan at higher speeds.


I mean, a van is also practical, but you don't drive the Taycan to get the driving characteristics of a van...
If you like the SUV shape, there's SO many different cars out there to choose from.

I have a 911...so the upgrade is from a Macan T. Best of both.

 

[DoctorLife]

I’m intrigued by the thought of whether a Taycan J2.1 is even being developed. With Porsche testing what appeared to be a Taycan GT4, based on the current J1.2 shape, the question is whether there actually will be a J2.1 as a direct descendent of the current Taycan.

Normally 1-2 years before launch one can get a view of a developing model on the Internet for example on CarScoops. I have seen no such pictures of a Taycan J2.1. With news of Porsche considering a merger between Panamera and Taycan, obviously not yet confirmed, it may not make sense to develop a new Taycan J2.1, but it might make sense to develop the existing J1.2 with better battery and tech.

 

[69Mach390]

I’m intrigued by the thought of whether a Taycan J2.1 is even being developed. With Porsche testing what appeared to be a Taycan GT4, based on the current J1.2 shape, the question is whether they actually will be a J2.1 as a direct descendent of the current Taycan.

Normally 1-2 years before launch one can get a view of a developing model on the Internet for example on CarScoops. I have seen no such pictures of a Taycan J2.1. With news of Porsche considering a merger between Panamera and Taycan, obviously not yet confirmed, it may not make sense to develop a new Taycan J2.1, but it might make sense to develop the existing J1.2 with better battery and tech.

The future of pretty much every EV model is questionable and constantly being changed.

I think we are at the point of EV lifecycles where the car manufacturers have to justify the cost to the board and shareholders.

And if you have a model like the Taycan that was likely never profitable AND sales are going in the wrong direction, it’s a bit hard to justify making another one.

The “pitch” a few years ago was that “this is the future and in 5 years sales will grow and we will make money.

Well 5 years later and that didn’t happen. Too many EV models were introduced at once and sales growth didnt keep up with the number of EV models out there.

 

[bxwatso]

The J 1.1 and 1.2 have quite a lot of quirks, mostly software. All manner of weird things happen to mine from time to time and then go back to normal. This is way more of a problem than my prior Cayenne and Macan that I used to own. I'd hope that a J 2.1 would bring the Taycan up to Porsche's (not exceptional) overall standards.

 

[AltoVoltaMX]

Interesting discussion. The Taycan ecosystem keeps evolving quickly. One thing I’ve noticed is that having a reliable home charging setup really makes the ownership experience much better.

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