Out Of Spec Kyle hypermiles prototype Taycan refresh to over 450 miles range!

[tigerbalm]

I think that is why, for me, the small battery is good enough. There are plenty of chargers.

Agreed. Nobody worries about the size of a 911 petrol tank because there are so many refuelling locations world-wide.

As the industry reaches out towards 1000km range batteries, I expect manufacturers to half them to 500km-600km to get the weight down. But this can only realistically happen if there is great charging infrastructure. And Europe is well on its way towards that.

It is now EU law for there to be high-speed chargers every 60km along our major motorways. When that is rolled out and EV's can add 500 km of range in around 10 minutes – we'll be in a better position (not just environmentally) than ICE cars.

I think it is unwise to be "jealous" about the enhancements that will happen every 3 to 5 years in EV evolution – unless you are willing to lose a lot of money keeping up. There is going to be staggering advancements in the future. Like smartphones, it is probably best to jump a generation or two.

It feels like Europe got off to a great start. The US have had a few missteps: a format war (plug shapes) and unreliable charging network created out of the legal system (EA) – but they are well on the way to fixing that – by settling on a plug and opening up an alternative network (Tesla) to create healthy competition.

Building out a comprehensive charging network remains key to underpinning all this.

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[whitex]

Has he ever done the hypermiling on the current Taycan? Why not take a regular Taycan on the same trip as the new? It would give this number some context, i.e. how does the new Taycan compare to the old one.

Kyle has been saying he's got a Taycan on order for 2-3 years now. Surely with the production finally moving in 2023 (as evidenced by the number of Taycans in dealer inventory today) he should have one of his own by now, no?

 

[WuffvonTrips]

I think it is unwise to be "jealous" about the enhancements that will happen every 3 to 5 years in EV evolution – unless you are willing to lose a lot of money keeping up. There is going to be staggering advancements in the future. Like smartphones, it is probably best to jump a generation or two.

I'm already at the point that, while I admire improvements in range, charging rate and power output, I have no use for them for at least 99% of my driving time. I'm looking forward to such technical progress resulting in me eventually replacing my current vehicle with something at least as capable as it, but significantly lighter and cheaper.

 

[whitex]

Is it not possible anymore to activate regen ?
I liked the feature. I used it a lot.

It's probably still possible, only a few touches on your PCM. Perhaps the diamond button can be defined as regen too.

 

[Scandinavian]

It is now EU law for there to be high-speed chargers every 60km along our major motorways. When that is rolled out and EV's can add 500 km of range in around 10 minutes – we'll be in a better position (not just environmentally) than ICE cars.

Yes that is a great development. Also the fact that the stations will have to provide means of payment WITHOUT subscriptions! No more fiddling with apps, Network dependent cards, tags etc.

Just the normal credit cards etc!

And soon the pricing will have to be clearly displayed. Seen some places where they now show that, just like the Petrol prices along motorways! Then you can decide if you want to pay some of the extraordinary fees the likes of BP and Shell want to charge.

“”Users of alternative fuel vehicles will have to be able to pay easily at recharging points (with payment cards or contactless devices and without a need to have a subscription), while the price of these “fuels” will have to be displayed per kWh, kg or per minute/session. MEPs ensured that the Commission will set up an EU “database” on alternative fuels data by 2027 to provide consumers with information on the availability, waiting times or price at different stations.””

 

[Tooney]

Has he ever done the hypermiling on the current Taycan? Why not take a regular Taycan on the same trip as the new? It would give this number some context, i.e. how does the new Taycan compare to the old one.

+1

 

[KLHubb]

+1

3.6 miles/kw was my best hypermiling last summer, on normal, normal height, driving 75mph+,-
It's a 60 mile trip of mixed roads(2 lane 30-45mph) and interstate (75+)
Temps were in the 70's
Coasting as much as possible to minimize energy consumption, and only using regen to control speed. Let gravity be your friend.
Winter driving in upstate New York is a different matter with cabin heat, seat heating, etc.

 

[KLHubb]

By the way, this is a 2020 Mamba Green metallic 4S with 20,000 miles on the odometer.
I imagine that it could have been a bit better than 3.6 mi/kw if I had lower the vehicle, put it in range. and turned off all accessories.

 

[KLHubb]

Here is the range indicated at 99% on my 2020 Taycan 4S
This is a a summer charge

 

[Jasper4S]

Is it not possible anymore to activate regen ?
I liked the feature. I used it a lot.

It moved to the “Vehicle” menu as option. Its the same menu where you change chassis, vehicle mode, electric sound and right now also regen

 

[BJCanadaMax]

I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around what an insane improvement they've managed to conjure up out of seemingly nowhere. Some improvement was expected, but these numbers are something completely different.

The Taycan was never a particularly efficient car, which wasn't exactly that surprising with the performance and absolutely ridiculous wheel sizes. Yet suddenly, they've somehow managed to transform it into probably one of the most long range and efficient cars in its segment.

I guess the one drawback is that the value of our current cars is going to be absolutely decimated.

Taycans are volume cars to the Nth Degree. Its not meant to keep "resale value" anyway. Same as the refresh.

 

[f1eng]

I just noticed probably the one single biggest improvement of the new Taycan.

They replaced the regen button on the steering wheel with a media control button.

That is marginally worse for me.

 

[bn8959]

That is marginally worse for me.

Agreed. I use the regen button all the time, in place of pulling a gear in an ICE to start some gentle deceleration (without pressing the brake!), I’m toggling it on and off frequently.

 

[mc9er]

Agreed. I use the regen button all the time, in place of pulling a gear in an ICE to start some gentle deceleration (without pressing the brake!), I’m toggling it on and off frequently.

Just make the diamond button above it your shortcut for regen??

 

[satchurator]

Has he ever done the hypermiling on the current Taycan? Why not take a regular Taycan on the same trip as the new? It would give this number some context, i.e. how does the new Taycan compare to the old one.

Kyle has been saying he's got a Taycan on order for 2-3 years now. Surely with the production finally moving in 2023 (as evidenced by the number of Taycans in dealer inventory today) he should have one of his own by now, no?

AFAIK He hasn't done an all-out hypermiling attempt in a current generation Taycan, but did do his 'standard' 70mph range test on the ideal Taycan for range: RWD high capacity battery 19" aero wheels - that hit 293 miles.

He had an order in for a GTS Sport Turismo but cancelled it. In the YouTube comments for the 450+ run, he said he's been waiting for this refresh. I'll be looking forward to his deeper coverage of the MY25.

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