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Yes, I'm afraid Porsche, the German car industry, and therefore Germany as a whole is in big trouble. They have a massive infrastructure and culture that is fixed in the past, and they will have serious problems adapting to this very uncertain future. The Taycan is a disaster for them, the most unreliable EV by a long shot. The future of EV's for 'conventional' car manufacturers (not Tesla or China) is uncertain. I hope Porsche can get it's act together for the Taycan.

My car is absolutely amazing to drive, but there is always a nagging feeling that something will go wrong, and that is influencing the quality of my ownership experience significantly. Kind of like marrying a beautiful model that does everything you want, but she keeps cheating on you... :confused:
 

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How many Taycans have actually spontaneously combusted? ("prone to setting on fire").

I think I've only seen 1 car on fire on here, and that was involved in an accident....

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How many Taycans have actually spontaneously combusted? ("prone to setting on fire").

I think I've only seen 1 car on fire on here, and that was involved in an accident....

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3 in china for which porsche acknowledged faults with battery enclosure that allows humidity in
 


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Just by reading your post I have the immediate desire to throw myself behind the next train …

I love it when things get oversimplified …
I throw myself behind a train every time after I’ve stopped at a train crossing…;)
 

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Out of 136k globally.

It doesn't sound like "prone" to me....
Let's not ignore the fact that almost all 3rd party shops are calling it a disaster waiting to happen on the other porsche / taycan forum; as the battery enclosure is badly designed and results in condense / humidity inside. According to 2 battery shops on that forum, 99% of red circle of death is due to humidity / condense in battery enclosure, making it a fire risk.

Let's also not ignore that Porsche has acknowledge these issues, and chose to ignore them, and instead of doing a full recall with a redesigned battery enclosure, they are doing patch work; with what's now, 8 or 9 active battery recalls, waiting for battery warranties to run out so they can claim it's not their problem anymore afterewards
 

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Let's not ignore the fact that almost all 3rd party shops are calling it a disaster waiting to happen on the other porsche / taycan forum; as the battery enclosure is badly designed and results in condense / humidity inside. According to 2 battery shops on that forum, 99% of red circle of death is due to humidity / condense in battery enclosure, making it a fire risk.

Let's also not ignore that Porsche has acknowledge these issues, and chose to ignore them, and instead of doing a full recall with a redesigned battery enclosure, they are doing patch work; with what's now, 8 or 9 active battery recalls, waiting for battery warranties to run out so they can claim it's not their problem anymore afterewards
Even if they have acknowledged these mistakes, they just can’t fix things overnight. The battery is co-designed, assembled and tested by Dräxlmaier, so any non cell related issues are for Dräxlmaier to investigate and come up with a solution. At Porsche they are also pretty much in the dark as they depend on the supplier for the tech, and can pretty much only push for “ satisfactory resolutions”.



To make things more interesting, even Dräxlmaier has to review potential problems originating from its supply chain, eg quality issues from a supplier of the battery casings.

Manufacturing is a series of successive assemblies leading to the final product, so investigations and solutions take time. Sometimes, it’s not about the manufacturing quality but rather materials failing under unanticipated or untested conditions. These things take time.
 
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Even if they have acknowledged these mistakes, they just can’t fix things overnight. The battery is co-designed, assembled and tested by Dräxlmaier, so any non cell related issues are for Dräxlmaier to investigate and come up with a solution. At Porsche they are also pretty much in the dark as they depend on the supplier for the tech, and can pretty much only push for “ satisfactory resolutions”.



To make things more interesting, even Dräxlmaier has to review potential problems originating from its supply chain, eg quality issues from a supplier of the battery casings.

Manufacturing is a series of successive assemblies leading to the final product, so investigations and solutions take time. Sometimes, it’s not about the manufacturing quality but rather materials failing under unanticipated or untested conditions. These things take time.
And the coincidence makes it that it will take exactly over 8 years, probably like 1-2 days over the 8 years of warranty, no? How predictable...

It's already been 5 years that this car has been on the road, with battery issues since day 1. How long exactly are customers supposed to wait?
 
 








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